Get rid of both and hit the reboot button. Tired of Pogba's ways.
He hasn't even shown us anything. And yet acts and whines really big.
He hasn't even shown us anything. And yet acts and whines really big.
Mourinho or Pogba?
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Brilliant post. As much as Mourinho maybe yesterday's coach, he is still more important than Pogba unless he (Mourinho) is sacked before Pogba is sold. Pogba is way too big in his own head and doesn't seem to understand authority. Sell Pogba first and then fire Mourinho when a better manager is availableJust as a non United fan's POV, take it or leave it, I think Pogba is the one who needs to go.
He's an absolute idiot. There is a circus around him. I would honestly hate it if he was a Spurs player doing what he is doing. He undermines the club with his actions. He couldn't care less about United, it's all about Pogba The guy just wants to go big move to big move to keep cashing those cheques with his greedy agent. The player has never turned up consistently for you at all. He's a highlights, MOTD player.
Does anyone seriously think after 2 years of rank inconsistency and failing to turn up, that you will suddenly change manager and all of a sudden Pogba becomes the player you all dreamed he would be?!
Yes, Mourinho isn't doing great and it may be best to move him on at the end of the season etc, but once you start ceding to player power in Pogba, what happens if the next manager doesn't get along with him? The manager must always be the one who is backed, otherwise authority is completely lost.
Pogba frankly isn't worth the hassle. He isn't a player any rival fans are jealous doesn't play for them, and that should tell you all you need to know. Especially as a Spurs fan where at the moment our CM is our weakest area. Talented player on his day, but those days are rare. It's just ridiculous to see talented players get away with it by saying "the manager doesn't get the best out of him".
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I haven't dodged anything.Please instead of dodging the question answer it.
Which of our players except for long are has shown a clear and consistent increase in their performances higher than where they were previously. If the answer is no one then the likely reason we finished high than previously is because we spent over 300 million pounds. Not due to any form of coaching
Il answer your question and then explain my case and in turn why your question is moot. Zlatan was standout for Jose as was Lukaku. Matic was consistently good and Shaw is coming good this year. Lingard was better under Jose too.
Now for the good stuff. The team as a whole has been much better under Mourinho. We went from 69 points to 81 points, our goal difference improved. We had better chance creation, gast breaks, more assists and shots on target since Jose joined over LVG. His win % has been 67% last season which is fecking good considering he lost Fellaini for 2 months, Pogba for 2 months, Bailey for 4 months with major ankle surgery and Herrera for 1.5 months.
He also had a higher activity zone in the opposition box, more sprints and more distance covered. So yeah the team has looked better in his tenure with greater purpose and better results.
To conclude its farcical for you to suggest the team hasn't improved because on the pitch and on results we pretty much have. I'd argue a 67% win percentage is pretty fecking good after a couple seasons.
Now you can beat your chest and lazily point to money spent. Or you can remember almost 2/3rds of that is on 2 players only. One who was necessary because Jose didn't inherit an Augero or Kane or Costa striker and the other a mistake but one he can make a profit on.
We can complain about how shite we are because we lost 2 and drew 1. Or we can remember it's September and we have a manager with superb pedigree and a track record of improving results at this club, even if you want to ignore all the things he's won elsewhere. We can give him the benefit of doubt earned from last seasons standings and back him without complaining over stupid issues and backing a diva player who isn't that good, isn't consistent and puts the team morale to shits for 3 match interviews running. Your choice, but I'd rather support my club and back the manager like 90% I'd the match going fans do. He earned it from the progress he's made thus far.
This is it for me, too. It's not a defence of Mourinho - the man is utterly miserable, his football is just as joyless and he may well be something of a spent force at this level. But he's the manager and more important than any single player. That's a principle worth defending.Even though I believe that Mourinho is done at top level and I never wanted him here in the first place, there's no arguing those words. You can't have two forces pulling in opposite directions and still gain momentum.
And the manager should be the one deciding tactics and mentality, he is the one who bought players for a certain system and type of play.
We can't have player undermining him while he's still here, no matter how much I dislike Mourinho.
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I said all of that can be answered with the fact he has spent 400 million on players.I asked you if you can name more than 1 player who over the 2 years has shown a consistent increase in performance since being coached by mourinho. None of the players you have mentioned except for lingard has shown a consistent increase in performance compares to before mourinho. Everything else is easily explained for the fact we have spent an absolute fortune so naturally we will achieve better results.I haven't dodged anything.
Il answer your question and then explain my case and in turn why your question is moot. Zlatan was standout for Jose as was Lukaku. Matic was consistently good and Shaw is coming good this year. Lingard was better under Jose too.
Now for the good stuff. The team as a whole has been much better under Mourinho. We went from 69 points to 81 points, our goal difference improved. We had better chance creation, gast breaks, more assists and shots on target since Jose joined over LVG. His win % has been 67% last season which is fecking good considering he lost Fellaini for 2 months, Pogba for 2 months, Bailey for 4 months with major ankle surgery and Herrera for 1.5 months.
He also had a higher activity zone in the opposition box, more sprints and more distance covered. So yeah the team has looked better in his tenure with greater purpose and better results.
To conclude its farcical for you to suggest the team hasn't improved because on the pitch and on results we pretty much have. I'd argue a 67% win percentage is pretty fecking good after a couple seasons.
Now you can beat your chest and lazily point to money spent. Or you can remember almost 2/3rds of that is on 2 players only. One who was necessary because Jose didn't inherit an Augero or Kane or Costa striker and the other a mistake but one he can make a profit on.
We can complain about how shite we are because we lost 2 and drew 1. Or we can remember it's September and we have a manager with superb pedigree and a track record of improving results at this club, even if you want to ignore all the things he's won elsewhere. We can give him the benefit of doubt earned from last seasons standings and back him without complaining over stupid issues and backing a diva player who isn't that good, isn't consistent and puts the team morale to shits for 3 match interviews running. Your choice, but I'd rather support my club and back the manager like 90% I'd the match going fans do. He earned it from the progress he's made thus far.
Now you talked about pogba being a diva etc. In the last 2 year's who has caused the most public damage to united? Who is the one who publicly disrespected the club, the fans and the players? Who is the one who leaks articles to the press for his own power plays etc. The circus is because of Jose. Even if pogba left you don't think he will just find another player to fall out with if results don't go his way? Regardless of pogba Jose has a history of this so forget pogba he doesn't need to be around for this to happen.
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Pogba for all his faults has been our best player this season, or at least top 2...
...so yeah I hope he's dropped soon because his performances are getting in the way of Jose's sack. Matic and Fred in midfield for a few games should do the trick
...so yeah I hope he's dropped soon because his performances are getting in the way of Jose's sack. Matic and Fred in midfield for a few games should do the trick
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No it is not a principle worth defending. What matters is whether that man is the right man to take us forward. Being rigid and choosing manager over player or player over manager is foolish. You're not looking out what's best for the club if you're that rigid. Was Madrid wrong to choose the players they had over Mourinho? According to you and the rigid principle of manager > player no matter what, you would say it was the wrong decision. That would have cost Madrid 3 CL titles. Was Chelsea wrong to get rid of Mourinho and not Hazard? Hazard was instrumental in winning the PL title with Conte. According to you, Mourinho should have stayed and all the underperforming players that had them 10th would have magically gotten along with Mourinho so that Mourinho could win again.This is it for me, too. It's not a defence of Mourinho - the man is utterly miserable, his football is just as joyless and he may well be something of a spent force at this level. But he's the manager and more important than any single player. That's a principle worth defending.
It's nonsense to be that rigid.
Your definition of a key player is wrong. We got to a CL final in 2011 without Ronaldo, was he not a key player? Might I remind you that we only lost the PL title by 1 point and then won the title the following year.He wasn't a key player in Juve nor in France. As it was said here after he left Juve they became even better. Reaching a CL final without their key player...
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We won the CL title without Cantona. Was he not a key player? Was Pirlo not a key player at Juve? Who exactly was a key player for Juve? Because according to you, them making the CL final is proof that without that player they weren't key players for Juve. You hear that guys? The Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba midfield was not a key component of Juve because Juve have done well without them reaching a CL final and continuing to win the league.
Stop trying to rewrite history. Your France comment is also ridiculous considering you're ignoring a lot of the past. The French team as a whole was not looking all that great compared to previous years (which included Pogba) so to single out Pogba as if he was the only one not performing is disingenuous, as is ignoring Pogba's performance for France before France started to perform under their usual level of play. Hmmm, is it just me or did Pogba win young player award at the 2014 World Cup? Is 4 years, too far back for you?
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Pogba, as Jose has lost it. Not sure if I would keep either though anymore.
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Has anyone asked what Jose's plan was to do this on front of the cameras ?
What exactly was he looking to achieve?
Did he want Pogba to attack him or storm out to give him his excuse ?
I would hope Ed Woodward is asking himself why his manager would behave like this
What exactly was he looking to achieve?
Did he want Pogba to attack him or storm out to give him his excuse ?
I would hope Ed Woodward is asking himself why his manager would behave like this
Playing next to Pirlo and Vidal in SerieA which was not the strongest league at his time over there is easy !
It's time to step up at UTd and take the responsibility but I don't think he can do that here when he got agent who brings offers from other big clubs every day !
If he moves to clubs like Barcelona and Juventus, he will do fine as they have the quality to cover pogba's back and winning 9 out of every 10 matches in easier leagues gives you more confidence for sure !
It's time to step up at UTd and take the responsibility but I don't think he can do that here when he got agent who brings offers from other big clubs every day !
If he moves to clubs like Barcelona and Juventus, he will do fine as they have the quality to cover pogba's back and winning 9 out of every 10 matches in easier leagues gives you more confidence for sure !
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For me, what the club stands for is paramount and that means Pogba must go FIRST.
We cannot afford to turn into any of those other clubs where players feel they are superior to managers. That's not Manchester United. Let's face it, Pogba has gone way too far. You can't have a go at your manager repeatedly in public and get away with it at United. What will it say to the young players at the club? Pogba, for all his talents, has to be sold and ironically, it will not be the first time.
As for Jose, fire him if we end up out of the top four, continue to play dire football, win no silverware or completely loses the dressing room. Ultimately, I see both leaving but certainly, Pogba should be dealt with first. Even if a decision has been made to get rid of Mourinho, for me, the timing is key. We must tell the footballing world that United stands for certain values in the game.
We cannot afford to turn into any of those other clubs where players feel they are superior to managers. That's not Manchester United. Let's face it, Pogba has gone way too far. You can't have a go at your manager repeatedly in public and get away with it at United. What will it say to the young players at the club? Pogba, for all his talents, has to be sold and ironically, it will not be the first time.
As for Jose, fire him if we end up out of the top four, continue to play dire football, win no silverware or completely loses the dressing room. Ultimately, I see both leaving but certainly, Pogba should be dealt with first. Even if a decision has been made to get rid of Mourinho, for me, the timing is key. We must tell the footballing world that United stands for certain values in the game.
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If it’s true the Instagram post is the trigger then that is just madness and clearly Jose just picking a fight for the sake of it. He maybe has his reasons and was just waiting for something so he can feel justified in doing so but seriously man, come on. It’s an absolutely nothing video.
Pogba behaviour or supposed desire to leave is most likely due to Jose, look at who is more valuable to the club. The answer is clearly Pogba because being honest I don’t think Jose will get another season. If next year the team is looking better under a new manager and Pogba is still acting up then you shift him. The guy is far too talented to ship out because he doesn’t get on with Jose.
Where would Madrid be if they’d shipped out Benzema,Ronaldo and Ramos for their falling outs with Jose.
One looks like he is fast tracking to the exit door anyway so for me it’s a no brainier.
Pogba behaviour or supposed desire to leave is most likely due to Jose, look at who is more valuable to the club. The answer is clearly Pogba because being honest I don’t think Jose will get another season. If next year the team is looking better under a new manager and Pogba is still acting up then you shift him. The guy is far too talented to ship out because he doesn’t get on with Jose.
Where would Madrid be if they’d shipped out Benzema,Ronaldo and Ramos for their falling outs with Jose.
One looks like he is fast tracking to the exit door anyway so for me it’s a no brainier.
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I love this post.This is it for me, too. It's not a defence of Mourinho - the man is utterly miserable, his football is just as joyless and he may well be something of a spent force at this level. But he's the manager and more important than any single player. That's a principle worth defending.
Mourinho wasn't sacked by Chelsea for falling out with Hazard, he was sacked because results were terrible and they were in a relegation battle, which is perfectly legitimate. You cannot sack a manager just because a particular player doesn't like him - it would send completely the wrong message and that's not in the best interests of the club going forward.No it is not a principle worth defending. What matters is whether that man is the right man to take us forward. Being rigid and choosing manager over player or player over manager is foolish. You're not looking out what's best for the club if you're that rigid. Was Madrid wrong to choose the players they had over Mourinho? According to you and the rigid principle of manager > player no matter what, you would say it was the wrong decision. That would have cost Madrid 3 CL titles. Was Chelsea wrong to get rid of Mourinho and not Hazard? Hazard was instrumental in winning the PL title with Conte. According to you, Mourinho should have stayed and all the underperforming players that had them 10th would have magically gotten along with Mourinho so that Mourinho could win again.
It's nonsense to be that rigid.
If Pogba and Mourinho cannot solve their problems and work together amicably, Pogba has to go. To expect the club to do anything else is ludicrous.
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Can we really say that though? He has been our best player for long periods of time at United. I think we can all agree that last season the best players in the 1st half of the season were Pogba, Matic, Martial, and a distant 4th, Lingard. All of their levels dropped in the 2nd half. Pogba was more inconsistent than Matic, but also put in higher performances at his peak (which came with lower performances). One of the only players that I felt was largely consistent was Lukaku outside of that nightmare 12 or so game span we're he gave up own goals and had like 1 goal scored.Playing next to Pirlo and Vidal in SerieA which was not the strongest league at his time over there is easy !
It's time to step up at UTd and take the responsibility but I don't think he can do that here when he got agent who brings offers from other big clubs every day !
If he moves to clubs like Barcelona and Juventus, he will do fine as they have the quality to cover pogba's back and winning 9 out of every 10 matches in easier leagues gives you more confidence for sure !
This season Pogba has been our best player despite the media outburst. It seems like we're judging a single player's performance objectively, but then failing to properly qualify that assessment because we're not taking into account their performances relative to the rest of the team. For example, it's true that Pogba hasn't been as good as we hoped he'd be, but at the same time I can safely say he's been one of our top performers. This is why I feel getting rid of him would be a step backward.
They're tied together. If United were to sack Mourinho, it wouldn't be because of Pogba's relationship with him. It would be in combination with his failures this season. Would sacking Mourinho automatically mean they made a decision on Mourinho vs Pogba? Why couldn't it be a decision on his performance this season?Mourinho wasn't sacked by Chelsea for falling out with Hazard, he was sacked because results were terrible and they were in a relegation battle, which is perfectly legitimate. You cannot sack a manager just because a particular player doesn't like him - it would send completely the wrong message and that's not in the best interests of the club going forward.
If Pogba and Mourinho cannot solve their problems and work together amicably, Pogba has to go. To expect the club to do anything else is ludicrous.
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If the player is big enough... some Real and Barca players could easily get a coach sacked.You cannot sack a manager just because a particular player doesn't like him - it would send completely the wrong message and that's not in the best interests of the club going forward.
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To be fair, he was in that relegation battle because a number of the players turned on him.Mourinho wasn't sacked by Chelsea for falling out with Hazard, he was sacked because results were terrible and they were in a relegation battle, which is perfectly legitimate. You cannot sack a manager just because a particular player doesn't like him - it would send completely the wrong message and that's not in the best interests of the club going forward.
If Pogba and Mourinho cannot solve their problems and work together amicably, Pogba has to go. To expect the club to do anything else is ludicrous.
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If it is between the 2, no brainer, Mourinho can feck off. However ideally both would leave
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Just a quick thought, but that Carragher thing is nonsense too. Why does he automatically assume we've seen the best of Pogba? Even if it were true that the manager had no influence on the player's performance, which is a ridiculous thing to say given how drastic on the attacking to defensive spectrum managers differ, Pogba is only 25 years old. We don't even know if he's hit his performance limit as a player.
I would say that top 3 is sorted but I'm not convinced that Arsenal and Spurs are solid enough to lock down 4th at this point in time. At least there's enough doubt to give Mourinho the benefit if the doubt for the time being.What are the chances of us getting top 4 this season do you think ? There's no way we are coming first or second.
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Even when history is clearly repeating himself some people choose to bury their heads in the sand and ignore this. It's quite baffling. One of these two men has a history for falling out with top players and causing chaos but it's the other one that has the attitude problem and must go.As much as I'd really enjoy United doing so, I must say Mourinho is not worth losing your best players over.
Thank God our board wised up just in time to keep Hazard in Chelsea blue after debruyne and salah.
Anyone with eyes knew Debruyne was a star in the making, but good old Jose told us he wasn't hard working enough in training. Yes because he wasn't bamboozling and elbowing everyone in midfield.
Don't make the same mistakes guys.
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Jose is damaged beyond repair, whereas Pogba is salvageable imo with a better manager in charge. Paul hasn't done anything outrageous to effectively burn the bridges behind him, so I'd choose Pogba.
On their own? Maybe Messi or, previously, Ronaldo. That's probably it. Pretty exceptional circumstances.If the player is big enough... some Real and Barca players could easily get a coach sacked.
There's a difference between losing the entire dressingroom (there is no evidence of that here) and losing one player. I think the former does change the calculation slightly, as it's not really economically viable to change 8 or 9 players if the manager is completely unable to work with them. That situation is far from ideal as this sort of player empowerment seems to create a toxic dressingroom (Chelsea arguably struggled with that for a while after Mourinho departed the first time).To be fair, he was in that relegation battle because a number of the players turned on him.
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Finally, a bit of common sense here.I haven't dodged anything.
Il answer your question and then explain my case and in turn why your question is moot. Zlatan was standout for Jose as was Lukaku. Matic was consistently good and Shaw is coming good this year. Lingard was better under Jose too.
Now for the good stuff. The team as a whole has been much better under Mourinho. We went from 69 points to 81 points, our goal difference improved. We had better chance creation, gast breaks, more assists and shots on target since Jose joined over LVG. His win % has been 67% last season which is fecking good considering he lost Fellaini for 2 months, Pogba for 2 months, Bailey for 4 months with major ankle surgery and Herrera for 1.5 months.
He also had a higher activity zone in the opposition box, more sprints and more distance covered. So yeah the team has looked better in his tenure with greater purpose and better results.
To conclude its farcical for you to suggest the team hasn't improved because on the pitch and on results we pretty much have. I'd argue a 67% win percentage is pretty fecking good after a couple seasons.
Now you can beat your chest and lazily point to money spent. Or you can remember almost 2/3rds of that is on 2 players only. One who was necessary because Jose didn't inherit an Augero or Kane or Costa striker and the other a mistake but one he can make a profit on.
We can complain about how shite we are because we lost 2 and drew 1. Or we can remember it's September and we have a manager with superb pedigree and a track record of improving results at this club, even if you want to ignore all the things he's won elsewhere. We can give him the benefit of doubt earned from last seasons standings and back him without complaining over stupid issues and backing a diva player who isn't that good, isn't consistent and puts the team morale to shits for 3 match interviews running. Your choice, but I'd rather support my club and back the manager like 90% I'd the match going fans do. He earned it from the progress he's made thus far.
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AND, if this precedent was set, God help any new manager having to come in and deal with this wannabe gangsta and restore some respect and structure in the dressing room. It would take a monster of a new boss to do this!This is it for me, too. It's not a defence of Mourinho - the man is utterly miserable, his football is just as joyless and he may well be something of a spent force at this level. But he's the manager and more important than any single player. That's a principle worth defending.
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If Jose is sacked before Pogba leaves it will take player and agent power to a whole new level.
If we don't qualify for the CL i can see Jose resigning as he has always stated if i don't win or achieve my aims i will leave, so as long as Jose follow the code of conduct laid down by Ed i can see him staying till the end of the season.
Right now the players have to knuckle down and start winning not for Jose but for their own pride and that of the supporters all over the world
If we don't qualify for the CL i can see Jose resigning as he has always stated if i don't win or achieve my aims i will leave, so as long as Jose follow the code of conduct laid down by Ed i can see him staying till the end of the season.
Right now the players have to knuckle down and start winning not for Jose but for their own pride and that of the supporters all over the world
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I think the clubs success is more important than any individual player or manager.This is it for me, too. It's not a defence of Mourinho - the man is utterly miserable, his football is just as joyless and he may well be something of a spent force at this level. But he's the manager and more important than any single player. That's a principle worth defending.
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The state of this.AND, if this precedent was set, God help any new manager having to come in and deal with this wannabe gangsta and restore some respect and structure in the dressing room. It would take a monster of a new boss to do this!
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What about Pog screams wannabe gangstaAND, if this precedent was set, God help any new manager having to come in and deal with this wannabe gangsta and restore some respect and structure in the dressing room. It would take a monster of a new boss to do this!
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He’s black and he wears tracksuits even outside of training. Wears bling. Oh and did I mention he’s black?What about Pog screams wannabe gangsta
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Depends who your next manager is (don't think Jose will be there next year), you don't want to lose talents like Pogba. Under the right manager, he'll be one of the best in the league.
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Getting rid of Pogba won't fix Mourinho or the team. Getting rid of Mourinho might fix Pogba and the team.
I agree. Nothing I have written on here contradicts that. The manager is not bigger than the club, and if he fails to meet certain performance objectives, the club can sack him. However, the manager (whoever he happens to be) is bigger and more important than any individual player (whoever he happens to be).I think the clubs success is more important than any individual player or manager.
Good post.I haven't dodged anything.
Il answer your question and then explain my case and in turn why your question is moot. Zlatan was standout for Jose as was Lukaku. Matic was consistently good and Shaw is coming good this year. Lingard was better under Jose too.
Now for the good stuff. The team as a whole has been much better under Mourinho. We went from 69 points to 81 points, our goal difference improved. We had better chance creation, gast breaks, more assists and shots on target since Jose joined over LVG. His win % has been 67% last season which is fecking good considering he lost Fellaini for 2 months, Pogba for 2 months, Bailey for 4 months with major ankle surgery and Herrera for 1.5 months.
He also had a higher activity zone in the opposition box, more sprints and more distance covered. So yeah the team has looked better in his tenure with greater purpose and better results.
To conclude its farcical for you to suggest the team hasn't improved because on the pitch and on results we pretty much have. I'd argue a 67% win percentage is pretty fecking good after a couple seasons.
Now you can beat your chest and lazily point to money spent. Or you can remember almost 2/3rds of that is on 2 players only. One who was necessary because Jose didn't inherit an Augero or Kane or Costa striker and the other a mistake but one he can make a profit on.
We can complain about how shite we are because we lost 2 and drew 1. Or we can remember it's September and we have a manager with superb pedigree and a track record of improving results at this club, even if you want to ignore all the things he's won elsewhere. We can give him the benefit of doubt earned from last seasons standings and back him without complaining over stupid issues and backing a diva player who isn't that good, isn't consistent and puts the team morale to shits for 3 match interviews running. Your choice, but I'd rather support my club and back the manager like 90% I'd the match going fans do. He earned it from the progress he's made thus far.
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Both can leave and bring someone who is less poisonous not necessarily better than them.
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Not surprised to see bigotry surfacing. I've always felt like the fervor some get whipped up over Pogba was quite a bit out of proportion to what he's actually done.The state of this.
Because he's a confident, flashy and outspoken young black player, he seeminly gets a lot of stick and a shorter leash whereas someone like Becks was idolized for his off the pitch persona and focus on his brand.
His greatest and most unforgivable sin, according to some, has been letting his agent supposedly shop him around. Someone like Rooney openly asked to be sold to direct Prem rivals while the club was at the top under Fergie yet he's still in most fans good graces.
I know some will automatically get super defensive over any mention of race but it's just my own observation over the last few months where a portion of the fanbase have started to despise the clubs best outfield player
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And what assurance do we have that Pogba will stay if a new manager is in ?
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Unfortunately it will have to be Pogba because if it’s Mourinho it sets a very dangerous precedent for the future.
Which sucks because it means losing our best player but it’s the only way it can be I’m afraid.
Mourinho will be gone in the summer anyway.
Which sucks because it means losing our best player but it’s the only way it can be I’m afraid.
Mourinho will be gone in the summer anyway.
mancan92
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If your manager doesn't set you up properly and you don't get coached properly and have no confidence because the manager has destroyed it. How do you expect player to just "go out there and get a win" ? This is football at the highest level it takes more than just heart.If Jose is sacked before Pogba leaves it will take player and agent power to a whole new level.
If we don't qualify for the CL i can see Jose resigning as he has always stated if i don't win or achieve my aims i will leave, so as long as Jose follow the code of conduct laid down by Ed i can see him staying till the end of the season.
Right now the players have to knuckle down and start winning not for Jose but for their own pride and that of the supporters all over the world