It's really isn't.
Pretty sure the club would like to buy someone like Skrinnar regardless of who the manager is.
Board vs Jose
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Pretty sure the club would like to buy someone like Skrinnar regardless of who the manager is.
Would be a classic Woodward move, who has said many times that he prefers to bide his time and not rush things, which can easily turn into complacency.
We'll probably pay a premium in January as well, for players that we could have probably pushed hard for in the Summer. It's not as if Skriniar was at the world cup.
We'll probably pay a premium in January as well, for players that we could have probably pushed hard for in the Summer. It's not as if Skriniar was at the world cup.
It’s classic Jamie Jackson: “it’s understood that money might be available if there is potential for possibly upgrading the squad, provided that the manager has the board’s approval, which in itself is no guarantee. This has led to some disquiet, with the board said to be unhappy with the club’s current position in the table. It is understood, according to sources, that this discussion might be revisited in January. Luke Shaw is said to be bemused by this current turn of events...”
Aguero scored 27 goals in his last season at athletico and people were raving about Silva at Valencia. They were definitely considered better than the players we were signing.
I wanted Augero to replace Carlos Tevez and David Silva, it was a disappointment when our bid go rejected but to say they was any more higher in talent than say singing Mata or getting Lukaku.. I’d have to disagree.
I didnt dispute that. Again they were good and not world class then
We just couldn't compete with City on the wages they offered Aguero(and Yaya)at the time, and decided that Silva hadn't got back up to the level he was at before his serious ankle injury and would have been a massive gamble bringing him to a more physical league, City gambled and it paid off, but they could afford to get it wrong, United couldn't.
And people got offended at the idea of another oil billionaire buying us from the Glazer. It surprises me. Having a rich owner like them would make us no longer humiliated like that when City brought the likes of Yaya, Silva, Aguero...etc when we were satisfied with the likes of Bebe, Anderson, Owen, Valencia, Young... Last summer was one of the greatest disgrace we ever had with not being able to bring home a single defender while City brought in Laporte last winter with no hesitation, despite having loads of options in defense already. I just don't understand...
We weren't signing Mata and Lukaku back then though. Also, Lukaku is poor technically and comparable to the likes of Darren Bent not technically superior players like Aguero.
Aguero used to terrorize La Liga single handedly, he was as much of a sure thing to become world class as you will ever see. We really should not have let him go to city.
@Ekeke would tell us all the time Mata was better than Silva. I disagreed but he was definitely at the same level so that’s a non argument. Lukaku not a wonderkid like Aguero for his age in terms of what he could do, but he was very highly rated. He would have been a massive investment. Everyone had him done as the new Drogba.
I said Mata was more of a leader for the team when watching Valencia every week. It was him and Villa, while Silva got into good positions and finished poorly.
As soon as he went to City he had much better end product and wasnt fluffing his lines as much as at Valencia. Still a few poor finishes, but not as many.
Look I didn't say he didn't have world class potential or look like he could become world class. Martial also looked the same in his first season here, the thing is he wasn't yet a world class player when they signed him.
Aguero was absolutely quality at Atletico. He proceeded to hit 20 league goals (30 in all comps) in his first season at City and was widely considered one of the top strikers in the game. If he wasn't world class then you're being so restrictive with your application of the term to make it absolutely meaningless.
Oh, and he was far further along (as was Silva) than Martial was.
Well this
Hopefully true. Don’t give him no more money.
Ed is a fecking lemon if true.
The initial point was that we weren't signing anyone at the time City signed those players. Mata etc. were signed later.
The end is close it seems, if this story is true. No big money from Woody, no top 4 from Jose. Jose leaves at the end of the season, Woody keeps his pay out. The only problem is that we are going to lose big money-wise without CL next season. However, arrival of a new manager may reignite the squad and convince certain players to renew their contracts with us.
Wouldn't make sense. Top 4 prize money + Champions League rights and player attraction for transfers next season is greater than Jose's payout no?
Possibly, but then, even if Woody gives Jose 100 mil in Jan and he still fails (which is likely), then there would be no CL, more money wasted more players that a new manager may not want. It seems that Woody has made up his mind, Jose knows this too, so the main task for both parties is damage limitation.
That was then, but now thanks to the tireless work of the oft maligned Ed Woodward and his team we can now not only compete with City on fees and wages but totally blow them out of the water if need be, with Alexis a prime example, and i'm sure if Mourinho had gone to Ed W and said get me Laporte he would've done
Good answer.
It doesn't matter who the manager is, the club will buy the players who can take the club forward (both on the pitch and in financial terms). For example, if Neymar was brought in (we know that Woodward is desperate for a Galactico signing), this would happen regardless of who the manager was. Conversely, if the manager asks for a player who is not marketable OR has a low resale value, Woodward is unlikely to oblige.
I think that SAF preferred EPL proven, regardless of nationality.
He got Cantona (EPL proven).
Yorke (EPL proven).
RvP
Tevez
Valencia
It just so happened that a lot of the time he bought a EPL proven player, he happened to be English.
A lot of inflated assumptions in that. One that Jose wastes 100m when he knows defenders best. Another that he fails top 4 which is far from a foregone conclusion at this point in the season. The final that his signings don't suit the next manager, which given reported targets, would be extremely unlikely as they're potential stars.
Yeah we can go "he wasted money on Lindelof and Bailey" but I don't think either of them should be written off. Lindelof is building a case now, in fact. Problem is he needs a budget more than 35m eur on a CB to get that extra quality beyond them.
Yeah. Quite clearly we never had the money. No Center midfielders for years kind of proved that.
If Jose knows defenders best, why has he bought two stinkers for us?
No shit. Its an example someone can look like they are potentially but they still have to prove it. Everyones definition is varied but hindsight isnt an option
At the time when he was at Athletico he wasn’t lablled world class, although he was someone who many thought would go on to become world class.
Him firing City to titles and scoring the goals he has in the UCL is what has earned him that label
Lindelof has performed really well in the last few weeks in games against top opposition so your opinion is quite harsh. Bailly, well feck knows what's wrong him - talented but far too aggressive. Neither have been rubbish signings.
To be fair, Lindelof has been showing some improvement, but I still don't trust him. But maybe having Smalling next to him doesn't help.
Indeed.
Yeah.
Idk tbh.
You don't give your current manager that much money in January unless you intend to keep him, unless you're giving current manager money to buy CB for the next manager, which would be stupid but not unlike Woodward.
Especially with current manager's track record at the club when it comes to buying CB's.
Personally I'm reading this as Jose's people leaked the 100m, Ed simply said no.
At least I hope that's what happened.
At least I hope that's what happened.