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Santoryo

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Christ. I recall those times (like 2 months ago). The abuse and language being used was incredible. I'm not sure what's going on in these people's lives that they feel the need to level such ridiculous insults towards one of our own and best players.

The comments about autism were absolutely comical, same as the fella giving about him and his kids :lol: The fecking agenda posters on this forum can't really tell what's real and what's fiction fabricated in their own minds.
I'm glad someone else remember about the kids arguments. Those were some shocking stuff to read.
 

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Just went back through some old posts in this thread and saw people stating that Martial was struggling with autism.

There was especially this Haram fellow pushing for that narrative :lol:
Even if he was, why is it just a big deal? I have friends who are autistic and the biggest drawback is they are odd socially. If Martial was socially odd, who'd care? Doesn't seem like he is but just saying if he was it wouldn't be a big deal (and many people with autism are smart as feck too)
 

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So much talent, it's actually ridiculous what he is able to do with the ball at his feet. What's even more amazing is that we play such an apalling brand of football that limits his ability to fully showcase his talent.

Imagine playing in a style that gets Martial in dangerous positions to take on players numerous times a game, instead of us playing tumescent football and expecting our attackers to produce magic from feeding on scraps.
 

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What's this about Martial getting kicked out of the French camp for flashing his groin area at member of staff?

Not good that. He was doing so well too.
 

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I would say that with better midfield and a better striker he will be a lot better. Lukaku just stands there and points to his feet. He does not move to create space. He can create too. That goal he flicked on for Lingaard was amazing. Such a tight space.
 

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Not sure sticking any player in the City team and they become better players. Martial can get into the City team. Players like Lukaku is not going to get into the City team.
 

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One of Martials best games in recent times where he looked a threat the whole game not just short period was CSKA away last season. We played with 3-4-3 formation and I'd like a return to that formation to get absolute best from Martial. We lack a top RW so when Martial play LW it's easier to put 2/3 defenders and take him out of game. For Martial to be involved even more we need to use 3 at the back formation with 2 wing backs and narrow front three. Martial can attack the space in between RB and RCB instead of having to cut inside from LW and take 2/3 players everytime. He is too far away from the goal to be a threat and too much energy is wasted in tracking back defenders.
 
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Not sure sticking any player in the City team and they become better players. Martial can get into the City team. Players like Lukaku is not going to get into the City team.
I’m not saying anyone can get in the city team, but yes if you forced City to play with Lukuku he would play better for them than he does for us - it seems like a pointless statement to say that a player would be better if they had better players around them, stating the obvious.
 

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I’m not saying anyone can get in the city team, but yes if you forced City to play with Lukuku he would play better for them than he does for us - it seems like a pointless statement to say that a player would be better if they had better players around them, stating the obvious.
Aye, Lukaku does pretty well for Belgium. Next to Hazard, De Bruyne, Mertens.
 

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One of Martials best games in recent times where he looked a threat the whole game not just short period was CSKA away last season. We played with 3-4-3 formation and I'd like a return to that formation to get absolute best from Martial. We lack a top RW so when Martial play LW it's easier to put 2/3 defenders and take him out of game. For Martial to be involved even more we need to use 3 at the back formation with 2 wing backs and narrow front three. Martial can attack the space in between RB and RCB instead of having to cut inside from LW and take 2/3 players everytime. He is too far away from the goal to be a threat and too much energy is wasted in tracking back defenders.
Against CSKA, Martial was paired up front in a two with Lukaku. I agree with the general idea that playing in an inside left position up top where he doesn’t have to track full backs defensively and cover large distances is an ideal role for him, but playing a front three against a back four typically means the ‘outside’ forwards track full backs out of possession regardless of how central or high you wish for them to play when their team has the ball.
 

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Just went back through some old posts in this thread and saw people stating that Martial was struggling with autism.

There was especially this Haram fellow pushing for that narrative :lol:
When did I say he was autistic?

For what it's worth;


He is clearly talented but...
If you’re talking about this post :lol::lol::lol:
 
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What's this about Martial getting kicked out of the French camp for flashing his groin area at member of staff?

Not good that. He was doing so well too.
I don't know how you are not banned yet, at least from this thread.
 

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It was a joke ffs. I was poking fun at myself more than anything. Martial has been sent home with a groin injury after physio assesment.
My apologies, I'm usually good for noticing a joke and all :lol:
 

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Martial vs Hazard since Martial joined PL.



 

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The stats just prove how wrong Mourinho was not to play him consistently.
 

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What's interesting is Martial having created more big chances than Hazard and what seems to be in less playing time. Yet you have people like Neville who says that outside scoring goals Martial doesn't do much. Just shows how much bs these so called experts chat
 

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The only disappointing stat is how much the see the ball.
Hazard sees the ball far more than Martial.
 

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The only disappointing stat is how much the see the ball.
Hazard sees the ball far more than Martial.
Not really (Hazard touches the ball more often but it's lot closer). It's averaged per game which doesn't give proper picture as Martial was a sub in many games.

Since Martial joined PL.
Hazard - 8415 mins = 1.15 min per touch
Martial - 6394 mins = 1.5 mins per touch.
 

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What's interesting is Martial having created more big chances than Hazard and what seems to be in less playing time. Yet you have people like Neville who says that outside scoring goals Martial doesn't do much. Just shows how much bs these so called experts chat
But Martial is very 'confusing' apparently. :houllier:
 

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What's this about Martial getting kicked out of the French camp for flashing his groin area at member of staff?

Not good that. He was doing so well too.
Mods, please do your job better. The state of this fellow FFS.
 

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Another remark, just focusing on creative stats such as assits, chances created, through balls, Martial is either better than Hazard or close to him despite having played less minutes and in very static and non creative teams.

Yet I'm gonna recall that MNF show from Neville and Carragher saying that while Martial stats compared favorably against other league top wingers such as Mane and Hazard(they showed goals and assists stats which Martial was up there with the top wingers in the league) they went on to criticised Martial in saying that he doesn't do much outside output and end product(which by the way is the most valuable criteria).

They cherry picked stats such as running distance to make a point to criticise Martial. Which in itself isn't really untrue but they also did so without context. The likes of Mane and Hazard play in teams that run and cover far more ground than United so on average and individually their players would naturally cover more ground than ours in their respective positions. This is something Neville overlooked.

So after cherry picking those stats and using them without context they ignored other more important stats which would have proven them wrong about Martial not doing much outside of goals. His assists as well as chances created and through balls aka creative stats are overall up there or better than the league best wingers.

All those were ignored by Neville and Carragher and only takes about running distance which become a ridiculous argument when used without context.

It was just pure agenda from Neville. He's been called on twitter on his Martial shitting and has always felt the need to defend his stance on Martial despite being proven wrong countless times.
 

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Another remark, just focusing on creative stats such as assits, chances created, through balls, Martial is either better than Hazard or close to him despite having played less minutes and in very static and non creative teams.

Yet I'm gonna recall that MNF show from Neville and Carragher saying that while Martial stats compared favorably against other league top wingers such as Mane and Hazard(they showed goals and assists stats which Martial was up there with the top wingers in the league) they went on to criticised Martial in saying that he doesn't do much outside output and end product(which by the way is the most valuable criteria).

They cherry picked stats such as running distance to make a point to criticise Martial. Which in itself isn't really untrue but they also did so without context. The likes of Mane and Hazard play in teams that run and cover far more ground than United so on average and individually their players would naturally cover more ground than ours in their respective positions. This is something Neville overlooked.

So after cherry picking those stats and using them without context they ignored other more important stats which would have proven them wrong about Martial not doing much outside of goals. His assists as well as chances created and through balls aka creative stats are overall up there or better than the league best wingers.

All those were ignored by Neville and Carragher and only takes about running distance which become a ridiculous argument when used without context.

It was just pure agenda from Neville. He's been called on twitter on his Martial shitting and has always felt the need to defend his stance on Martial despite being proven wrong countless times.
Who cares what those two says, they are some of the worst pundits I've seen in my life and they think they know everything and try to present a lot of things they say as facts when truth be told a hella lot of it is absolute rubbish. Have you seen when that prick Souness, another cringeworthy pundit was asking Neville if he thought we were getting the best out of Martial and Neville said "I don't know" Of course he knows... And the fact that the nasty neanderthal Carragher is still a pundit after showering a poor young girl with his scouse germs shows how bollockless Sky are.
 

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What's interesting is Martial having created more big chances than Hazard and what seems to be in less playing time. Yet you have people like Neville who says that outside scoring goals Martial doesn't do much. Just shows how much bs these so called experts chat
Neville has a pro-Mourinho agenda and he will do anything to deflect from the fact that Jose was wrong to ostracize Martial.

Martial is not yet at Hazard's or KDB's level, but it's clear as clear can be that he could potentially achieve those heights at some point in his career.
 

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It's a funny merry go around here :D. City game, where our side gets dominated and our attacking display is non existent, we can not look at a single player like Martial and judge hes performance adequately. As far as i'm concerned our flaws and shortcoming are somewhere else than in the left that Martial occupies. He can and should get better though, but he is the best we got.
 

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If he scores today he’ll be the first United player since Ronaldo to score in 6 consecutive premier league games, come on Martial FC.
 

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Another game where we're going to rely on him to pull something out of the bag
 
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Looked sharp as feck in the warm up
Shows how warm ups mean nothing. He was dreadful, like the rest of the team.
Claims that he has been playing injured.
He most likely was, but I don't think it would have changed much. If everyone else on the team plays poorly, he's not (yet) a player that can drag the team to a win consistently.
 

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Shame his good run fizzles out with a whimper instead of a bang. Still great to score in 5 matches on the bounce, we'd have been screwed without him. Today with his touch we were screwed with him too
 
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