Hating Lingard

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It's fair to say Lingard doesn't need shipping out like Mata or Sanchez do.

But he shouldnt be anywhere near the first team of Manchester United. He's just about good enough to be starting in league cup games. The replacement(s) for Mata and Sanchez should be keeping Lingard a mile away from starting quarter finals against Barca.

And if that isn't the case we might as well give up on the idea of being a top four side. Because we're not worthy of even having that aim, let alone winning the league, if players like Lingard, Mata, Young etc are starting for us.
I would happily sell Lingard before Mata or Sanchez.

He is near the top of my list of players we need to get shot of and would probably be #1 if not for Young and wasters like Rojo.
 

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:lol: How about not a single one of them. Not a single ducking one. Mata as poor as he is, shits all over Lingard. Time to put the social media toys down and look at Lingard for the player that he is. Outside of his purple patch he’s done feck all. He’s got a baby face that fools people,into thinking he’s still a prospect, he’s not. He should be entering his peak years and is no better than he was when he got his start. Thinking Jesse Lingard is good enough is the very thinking that’s kept us fighting for 6th for so many years.
I deliberately chose 3 England players that he gets picked ahead of and 1 United player who is effectively his back up to try to add a bit of context to the discussion.

I thought that anyone with a shred of self awareness would realise that dismissing it out of hand and saying "they're all much better than him" would realise how foolish that would make them look.
 

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I like Lingard and it would be crazy to even think about sellig him. Since returning from injury he hasn't been good so hopefully he wil find his form again next season.
I think he is best in a more central role in a more fluid attack though. He is not a typical winger really.
 

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I deliberately chose 3 England players that he gets picked ahead of and 1 United player who is effectively his back up to try to add a bit of context to the discussion.

I thought that anyone with a shred of self awareness would realise that dismissing it out of hand and saying "they're all much better than him" would realise how foolish that would make them look.
:lol: Being picked for england is and always has been about being popular. That why england never win anything. Saying he gets picked for england or united means feck all except that hes wormed his way into the spotlight. I mean hes stats are shit, you watch him, hes shit. But, hey, hes got a cool facebook account and hes got funny twitter videos and like OMG have you like seen his like tots ligit designer line? Meanwhile, on the pitch he does feck all. Its there for all to see, but here we are talking about a worthless sack of shit using the club for own gain and giving nothing back but a stupid fecking moonwalk.

six years of shit football. Six years of fighting for 6th. Six years of turning to utter shit, but sure lets keep the douchebag with stupid fecking handshakes because he used to run around a lot. :rolleyes: We deserve our mediocrity if lingard is the level of player we want anywhere near the club.
 

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Other way around bro beans, he a shit player who had a good run of form and has now returned to being shit full time. 35 matches, 5 goals, shit.
Bro beans? Surely saying 'bro beans' is a kneecapable offence.

Fair enough. My view is that a local lad who doesn’t sulk or whine shouldn’t be among the first we ship out. If Ole gets a couple of good signings and generally raises the standards, I would love it if the squad got to the level that I’d say «sorry, but you don’t cut it».
Agree with this. Lingard is in a poor run of form at the moment (who isn't, save McTominay and possibly Fred and Shaw) but we have far more pressing issues that need to be dealt with.
 

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OP really didn't age well. Have the Lingard fanboys woken up and realised he's a bit shit yet?
 

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He’ll still look good the next time he plays for England, and he will be selected despite this form.

That alone is reason for our fans to hate him.
 

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He’ll still look good the next time he plays for England, and he will be selected despite this form.

That alone is reason for our fans to hate him.
I can't stand him because it's probably all of our dreams to have been a professional footballer playing for United and somehow this fraud has managed to achieve that while earning 100k+
 

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I don't hate him. He has his uses but he's just a very mediocre number 10 for a team with our ambitions. He's the Smaling of nr 10s, has his qualities, but there are very few of them.
 

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Lingard is very good of the ball and he always gives everything he has in the tank every game. The problem, for me, is that he is a 10 and the main areas he is sorely lacking (end product and creativity) are the areas most important to that role.
 

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I don't hate him. He has his uses but he's just a very mediocre number 10 for a team with our ambitions. He's the Smaling of nr 10s, has his qualities, but there are very few of them.
What qualities does he actually have? His pressing isn't good and that leaves him with work rate, but I'm.convinced from what we have seen so far this season that he is a coward who never wants to receive the ball.

I loathe the guy, I really do.

I just pray he is shipped out in the summer.
 

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Lingard is very good of the ball and he always gives everything he has in the tank every game. The problem, for me, is that he is a 10 and the main areas he is sorely lacking (end product and creativity) are the areas most important to that role.
Lingard isn't very good off the ball, he doesn't actually get open, he doesn't often beat the opposition's defense and rarely finds himself in a position were he can score or assist. He also barely plays centrally which shouldn't be the case if his movement was very good.
 

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What qualities does he actually have? His pressing isn't good and that leaves him with work rate, but I'm.convinced from what we have seen so far this season that he is a coward who never wants to receive the ball.

I loathe the guy, I really do.

I just pray he is shipped out in the summer.
I actually thought that we are not supposed to post such things but glad to see someone sharing the same feelings.
 

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I don't hate him. He has his uses but he's just a very mediocre number 10 for a team with our ambitions. He's the Smaling of nr 10s, has his qualities, but there are very few of them.
He’s not even mediocre, he’s just poor. He has very few qualities.
 

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Lingard isn't very good off the ball, he doesn't actually get open, he doesn't often beat the opposition's defense and rarely finds himself in a position were he can score or assist. He also barely plays centrally which shouldn't be the case if his movement was very good.
I disagree. He is very often in the right rooms but he simply does nothing good when he gets the ball.
 

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I disagree. He is very often in the right rooms but he simply does nothing good when he gets the ball.
He actually doesn't which is why he is barely on the ball, watch him carefully. For a central player, very good movement is in the ability to create room in heavy traffic, Lingard avoids traffic and mainly touches the ball wide, the issue being that he plays in his teammates area and constantly vacates his own area. And for the team that's terrible.

A general clue for central players is that, they don't run around, their talent isn't in the amount of kms that they accumulate but little movements in tight space and very good first touch.
 

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Should be a squad player, not a first XI player. Touch has been terrible in every game, has stopped moves and lost possession.
 

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I don’t think any of us “hate” him, but we’ve always said his output isn’t good enough.

His infamous off the ball work isn’t enough to make up for a lack of goals. He’s basically a 2 lung park with none of the goals.

ole seems to love him for his hard work but that excuse can’t last forever, it’s been far too long without him chipping in.
 

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I'm so sick of reading about how Lingard "does a job" and "has great movement" and all of this other bullshittery.

Let's take a look at the curious case of Jessie button, the forever young.

His key contribution from his supporters is that he has good movement. This isn't true. He has above average movement in comparison with the rest of the attack. He's actually fairly cowardly, he doesn't attempt to take on his man, ever. If you compare him to the other number 10's in the world he falls short by a landslide. His control and first touch isn't good enough to play as a number 10, hell it isn't good enough for Manchester United. The fact some of you think that he is worthy of a squad place is laughable. He's been at Manchester United for 10 years and no one knows where his best position is. Because, he excels at absolutely nothing. If he didn't come through our academy and we'd bought him from Inter Milan every single person on this forum would be calling him to be sold. He's the midfield darmian. But because he's from Manchester he seems to get some never ending "pass" that "it's Jessie he's a good lad isnt it? He's harmless".


Lets take a look at our number 10's stats shall we? A number 10 or attacking midfielder for Manchester United should be a pretty creative force right?

114 Premier league Appearances - 10 Assists. 17 goals. An assist every 11.4 games and a goal every 6.7 games. That's 3 assists per season in the prem.

Please, please stop defending this fraud. He's absolutely stealing a place in the squad. He wouldn't get into the Watford or Villa teams. Let alone, being a starter in one of the most critical positions in modern football.

Kevin De Bryune 48 Assists in 119 games. 23 goals. An assist every 2.5 games. Yeah he;s in a better team, so let's take a look at someone who plays in the same team as Jessie shall we?
Paul Pogba 25 assists in 95 games, an assist every 3.8 games. 24 goals, a goal every 3.9 games. From a player playing much, much deeper.
Jessie Lingard...An assist every 11.4 games and a goal every 6.7 games.
 

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Needs to go, he's become a manifestation of our decline since Moyes. How he has outlived 5 managers i will never know.
 

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I'm so sick of reading about how Lingard "does a job" and "has great movement" and all of this other bullshittery.

Let's take a look at the curious case of Jessie button, the forever young.

His key contribution from his supporters is that he has good movement. This isn't true. He has above average movement in comparison with the rest of the attack. He's actually fairly cowardly, he doesn't attempt to take on his man, ever. If you compare him to the other number 10's in the world he falls short by a landslide. His control and first touch isn't good enough to play as a number 10, hell it isn't good enough for Manchester United. The fact some of you think that he is worthy of a squad place is laughable. He's been at Manchester United for 10 years and no one knows where his best position is. Because, he excels at absolutely nothing. If he didn't come through our academy and we'd bought him from Inter Milan every single person on this forum would be calling him to be sold. He's the midfield darmian. But because he's from Manchester he seems to get some never ending "pass" that "it's Jessie he's a good lad isnt it? He's harmless".


Lets take a look at our number 10's stats shall we? A number 10 or attacking midfielder for Manchester United should be a pretty creative force right?

114 Premier league Appearances - 10 Assists. 17 goals. An assist every 11.4 games and a goal every 6.7 games. That's 3 assists per season in the prem.

Please, please stop defending this fraud. He's absolutely stealing a place in the squad. He wouldn't get into the Watford or Villa teams. Let alone, being a starter in one of the most critical positions in modern football.

Kevin De Bryune 48 Assists in 119 games. 23 goals. An assist every 2.5 games. Yeah he;s in a better team, so let's take a look at someone who plays in the same team as Jessie shall we?
Paul Pogba 25 assists in 95 games, an assist every 3.8 games. 24 goals, a goal every 3.9 games. From a player playing much, much deeper.
Jessie Lingard...An assist every 11.4 games and a goal every 6.7 games.
There's no point talking about stats when it comes to Jlingz. He is a new breed of player that only our club possesses. Do you see number 10s at other clubs being crucial players for their sides even without scoring or assisting? That's a skill on its own!
 

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This is the only place I know that still defends him. Any fan I know has properly had it with him and opposition fans are laughing their socks off.
 

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He’ll still look good the next time he plays for England, and he will be selected despite this form.

That alone is reason for our fans to hate him.
The reason i don’t like him is because he and a couple of others are holding the team back, the amount of attacking opportunities he squanders is mind boggling
He is the Phil Neville of this era, a decent player that tries hard but should be no where near the first 11 apart from cup games
 

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I don't hate him, but I do dislike him and his inadequate performances a lot.
The sooner he is sold or relegated to the bench, the better.

He's a symptom of the state of the club.
 

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In terms of attack play, he is useless.
So as an attacking midfield, he is pointless.
 

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I don't hate him. He has his uses but he's just a very mediocre number 10 for a team with our ambitions. He's the Smaling of nr 10s, has his qualities, but there are very few of them.
Can we please stop with this shit? Smalling of the number 10s, or mentioning Lukaku to make a point. Both of them are much better players in their respective positions than Lingard.

People are also throwing Pereira into the turmoil, despite the guy playing better and getting an assist against Chelsea and then he is nowhere to be seen, while Lingard continues to play week after week.

Regarding the "hate", don't worry, posters like haram, mcking and couple of his other fan boys will be back in December to tell you how you hate on poor Jesse Lingard, when he eventually scores against Sheffield United.