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Good luck with that.
Two of them have been doing it for years and the other did it without issue when he was still with them. And again, it's not like they'd be required to make constant 50-70 yards runs up and down the pitch
 

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Two of them have been doing it for years and the other did it without issue when he was still with them. And again, it's not like they'd be required to make constant 50-70 yards runs up and down the pitch
showing your true colors. Blaugrana.


But yeah, doubting that Griezmann will make the effort is strange, Neymar is weird because he isn't lazy and will make the effort when he isn't full of arrogance, Suarez seems tired but he will always try. Perosnally I think that Griezmann is an upgrade on Suarez but I don't trust Valverde at all, I don't think that it's a good idea to play all of them at the same time, it would be better to rotate them and keep everyone constantly fresh.
 

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Two of them have been doing it for years and the other did it without issue when he was still with them. And again, it's not like they'd be required to make constant 50-70 yards runs up and down the pitch
Suarez used to it like a wild hound a couple of years ago, he just does a half-assed job nowadays, doesn't have the legs for it, and Neymar definitely won't do it on a consistent basis, that just leaves Griezmann, who did it in a 4-4-2 but even he can't do it as much as a midfielder, and Messi is a passenger. As I said you can't have that front 4 with a 2 man midfield, they can never offer even half the workrate.

I think it'll be a disaster if it's what EV wants to do. We'll see I guess.
 

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If Barca have bought Griezmann then surely that puts the Neymar return to bed, they can't have both and still be within FFP rules surely? And with Griezmann in what does that mean for Suarez? Is he now available?
 

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We can make fun lads but it’s making me cry inside that Barca a club never as big as Manchester United are doing Countino, Dembele, Griezmann and we’re doing...

Well James!
I am not sure if you are serious here. Real and Barca are the two biggest clubs on this planet.
 

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Suarez used to it like a wild hound a couple of years ago, he just does a half-assed job nowadays, doesn't have the legs for it, and Neymar definitely won't do it on a consistent basis, that just leaves Griezmann, who did it in a 4-4-2 but even he can't do it as much as a midfielder, and Messi is a passenger. As I said you can't have that front 4 with a 2 man midfield, they can never offer even half the workrate.

I think it'll be a disaster if it's what EV wants to do. We'll see I guess.
It could be a disaster against us, or teams like city, liverpool, etc...

Against the likes of mallorca, eibar, leganes? Doesn't matter, they'll outscore them anyways even if they can't defend
 

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So Griezmann never dribbles against anyone ? That dribbles stat is very weird.
 

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Griezmann hardly ever dribbles past anyone, while Hazard is one of the very best in the world in that regard. Whats weird about it?
Hazard stat is pretty normal but I don't watch Atletico much so I was surprised by Griezmann's dribbling stats. Didn't know he doesn't dribble to that degree at all. Only 20 ?
 

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Hazard stat is pretty normal but I don't watch Atletico much so I was surprised by Griezmann's dribbling stats. Didn't know he doesn't dribble to that degree at all. Only 20 ?
Griezmann is willing to run with the ball into space but not past players. He is a dynamic and versatile second striker/forward; i don't think that he is particularly creative. In terms of style/role he is closer to someone like Müller than to players like Neymar or Hazard.
 

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So Griezmann never dribbles against anyone ? That dribbles stat is very weird.
Griezmann isn’t very fast innit, and unlike Hazard he isn’t a winger, more of a second striker.

Either way, Madrid are in trouble, Hazard and Jovic is nice and all, but Barcelona have far far superior attacking players.
They need serious investment if they want the league in the next 2-3 (depends when Messi steps off) seasons.
 

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Barca keep spending all kinds of cash without addressing their most basic needs.
 

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Griezmann is quite fast actually, he can beat players for pure pace(and in fact most of his dribbles tend to be of that kind) but he's not explosive, quick or nimble enough to be a great dribbler
 

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Griezmann is quite fast actually, he can beat players for pure pace(and in fact most of his dribbles tend to be of that kind) but he's not explosive, quick or nimble enough to be a great dribbler
He is explosive but lacks agility, his explosiveness allows him to beat defenders off the ball and give himself enough space to do what he wants on it.
 

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He is explosive but lacks agility, his explosiveness allows him to beat defenders off the ball and give himself enough space to do what he wants on it.
He's not explosive, he's fast and aerobic, like dybala. Like Gerrard was for example. His first step doesn't leave you for dead like Hazard's or Messi's
 

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Barca keep spending all kinds of cash without addressing their most basic needs.
Their offensive firepower will be enough to win them La Liga, but in CL, the first top team they face in the knockout stages will take them out over two legs.
 

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Their offensive firepower will be enough to win them La Liga, but in CL, the first top team they face in the knockout stages will take them out over two legs.
Yes exactly, they keep repeating the same pattern over and over. I have no doubt they will probably walk over La Liga once again and then crumble in CL.
 
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He's not explosive, he's fast and aerobic, like dybala. Like Gerrard was for example. His first step doesn't leave you for dead like Hazard's or Messi's
Not being like Messi or Hazard doesn't mean that you are not explosive, these things aren't binary. In terms of dribbling the issue for Griezmann is that he isn't particularly agile and he doesn't have the balance that Hazard or Messi have but on his first step and in straight line Griezmann easily beats players with one or two steps, that's basically what he does in his one-twos.
 

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Not being like Messi or Hazard doesn't mean that you are not explosive, these things aren't binary. In terms of dribbling the issue for Griezmann is that he isn't particularly agile and he doesn't have the balance that Hazard or Messi have but on his first step and in straight line Griezmann easily beats players with one or two steps, that's basically what he does in his one-twos.
He isn't explosive by top athlete's standards(top level pro footballers) of course. The reason he can beat players like that is that he has good pace and acceleration while already in motion. Agility is also an issue of course, as i mentioned
 

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Their offensive firepower will be enough to win them La Liga, but in CL, the first top team they face in the knockout stages will take them out over two legs.
Nah 19/20 UCL Barça cannot score more than one goal in the first game at home (orders from the board) :lol: So they are forced to play in the away game.
 

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Are these guys trying to run themselves into bankruptcy? Better call Trump.
Too big to fail, though. Just like Franco helped Real I'm sure we'll see some dodgy deal with the Spanish government to lease out Camp Nou for 100 years with the government paying some ridiculous fee.
 

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Too big to fail, though. Just like Franco helped Real I'm sure we'll see some dodgy deal with the Spanish government to lease out Camp Nou for 100 years with the government paying some ridiculous fee.
Not this bullshit again, Franco helped Atletico and Barca more than Real. There are books and even threads in here on the subject if you were into a discussion. Not a Griezmann thread, or any other random one.
 

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Their team is way too attack oriented for me. Not enough quality at the back and specially in terms of full backs
It won't matter in the league :(

I don't think they particularly lack quality so much as they're easily rattled. Midfield should be better though with De Jong. He gives them the pace, mobility and dribbling they've been lacking, will make pressing them a lot harder...

Hopefully they continue their post-anfield meltdown :drool::drool::drool:
 

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It won't matter in the league :(

I don't think they particularly lack quality so much as they're easily rattled. Midfield should be better though with De Jong. He gives them the pace, mobility and dribbling they've been lacking, will make pressing them a lot harder...

Hopefully they continue their post-anfield meltdown :drool::drool::drool:
You mean Roma.
 

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We never were a circus like Barca or Madrid and only went for bigger names in case they perfectly fit and the deals made a lot of sense (like e.g. RvP).
We only started throwing money out on (often declining) big names since Fegie retired.
That's not really true. Firstly how is this a 'circus signing', he's 120m for near world class talent, you've spent 85m on Maguire.

That 120m won't be as big a percentage of Barce's club revenue as Rio Ferdinand, Van Nostrils and Veron were at the time you signed them. We know Pogba was a smaller percentage of club revenue than Rio was.

This is a good signing it's just they should be looking at a midfielder general or 2.