PeteManic
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More of a European Shithouse but I'd still pick to play for them over United. Living in Madrid and playing in La Liga is a dream move.
Exactly what I was thinking...More of a Spanish Spurs
Atletico won the league 5 years ago. Spurs last won the league cup 11 years ago and last won the league 58 years ago, they're a nothing club.More of a Spanish Spurs
Sid Lowe on Atletico:They absolutely need to get the reset right in terms of personnel and tactics in order to avoid entering decline. I'm very interested in seeing if Simeone can rejig things well. The defensive organization will provide them with a solid base; can Simeone make them more proactive is what I want to know.
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They've actually won trophies (both domestic and European), and have been to 2 CL finals. For those who can comprehend that there are more to accomplishments than trophies won at the end of the season, Atletico are certainly a powerhouse.I would compare them to Spurs? In their best moment currently.
Athletico will be 3/4 in La liga, pushing in quarter finals CL but they are not going to go for a bidding war with the power houses.
Saying that Utd are no longer a powerhouse either
They're comparable to Arsenal in terms of domestic trophies, though they've got three CL 2nd place finishes, two of them being pretty recent, and more ELs than Arsenal I think.Somebody remind me how UCLs they've won? Thought so. Can we close this ridiculous thread now. What's next? Arsenal is a European powerhouse?
Define powerhouse (Top10, Top15?) because I consider Sevilla one of the Top30 european clubs.Said it all along when people were claiming we were amazing because we got to three finals in four years that we weren't because we didn't win two of them so they were both for nothing. Getting to a final is a great achievement but only winning it makes you a great side.
Atletico making it to the final and losing twice just makes them losers at CL level.
Winning the Europa three times in 9 years isn't even as impressive as Sevilla is it? Sevilla aren't a European powerhouse.
They won La Liga over Barca and Madrid though. When did Spurs last won anything meaningfulExactly what I was thinking...
Fluke seasonThey won La Liga over Barca and Madrid though. When did Spurs last won anything meaningful
Who are the elite clubs at the moment in your opinion?Just below the elite clubs imo. Not that far behind though.
By this silly definition, only Liverpool and Madrid are powerhouses going on the last few years.Somebody remind me how UCLs they've won? Thought so. Can we close this ridiculous thread now. What's next? Arsenal is a European powerhouse?
Dortmund over Chelsea? Dream on mate.Top 10 in Europe, in no order!
Man City
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Juventus
Bayern
PSG
Manchester United
Ath Madrid
Dortmund
Ideally, they’re the teams you’re looking to miss in a UCL draw.
Below that:
Chelsea
Spurs
Arsenal
Sevilla
Inter
Milan
Napoli
RBL
Lyon
Ajax
Current Atlético is undoubtedly bigger than Spurs, Arsenal, any german/italian/french team other than Bayern, Juve and PSG.
Only Barça, Madrid, PSG, Juve, Bayern, Man City, Man Utd (money), Chelsea (money) and current Liverpool (with Klopp) are bigger than them.
Why?Sorry but Man United is no longer a european powerhouse .
As I've said, money, unlike other big clubs who are currently broke (AC M).Sorry but Man United is no longer a european powerhouse .
Never really found Partey convincing for Atletico, they didn't look the same since Tiago and Gabi left.Sold Partey, signed Suarez. Looks like 2 steps back to me.
Their season now depends on Felix finally showing his talent.