New Kits 2019-20

Judge Red

Don't Call Me Douglas
Joined
Feb 11, 2006
Messages
5,993
In an ideal world we could all afford to buy that Huddersfield shirt to make a point. It’s what every fan of every club wants.
 

Heardy

Full Member
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
8,859
Location
Looking for the answers...
In an ideal world we could all afford to buy that Huddersfield shirt to make a point. It’s what every fan of every club wants.
Very clever all round really given the overall attention Huddersfield / PaddyPower have gotten this week - more than they would having been on their shirt for the entirety of next season.
 

robinamicrowave

Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger
Joined
Jul 29, 2013
Messages
2,739
Supports
Man City

Shame this lot got relegated.
This is proper scummy from both of them. I'd expect it from Paddy Power because they're utterly shameless but Huddersfield have acted like complete dickheads here. Regardless of whether or not the actual home kit looks nice, this has still wound up as a massive advert for Paddy Power. In a country where desperate young men are developing gambling addictions and taking their own lives because they're spiralling into debt, this is very, very irresponsible from both parties. Paddy Power have come out of this looking like geniuses when their aggressive marketing should be getting curtailed. And I bet that not featuring the logo on Huddersfield's shirts has given license for Paddy Power to have their name plastered all over the stadium. Dodgy as feck.
 

Annihilate Now!

...or later, I'm not fussy
Scout
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
49,862
Location
W.Yorks
This is proper scummy from both of them. I'd expect it from Paddy Power because they're utterly shameless but Huddersfield have acted like complete dickheads here. Regardless of whether or not the actual home kit looks nice, this has still wound up as a massive advert for Paddy Power. In a country where desperate young men are developing gambling addictions and taking their own lives because they're spiralling into debt, this is very, very irresponsible from both parties. Paddy Power have come out of this looking like geniuses when their aggressive marketing should be getting curtailed. And I bet that not featuring the logo on Huddersfield's shirts has given license for Paddy Power to have their name plastered all over the stadium. Dodgy as feck.
On the one hand I agree... I abhor betting companies and everything they stand for.

However, without the inital stunt/Paddy Power etc, then this shirt wouldn't get half the attention it will now get... and it should get attention because the idea/campaign is great (even if it's a hiding to nothing, as no one clubs are giving up their shirt sponsor - and I include Huddersfield in this).

I guess it depends as you say what PaddyPower get out of it going forward.
 

Hawks2008

Full Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2015
Messages
4,912
Location
Melbz
No sponsors sounds nice, ours would look pretty clean without that gaudy chevrolet shit.
 

diarm

Full Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2014
Messages
16,713
This is proper scummy from both of them. I'd expect it from Paddy Power because they're utterly shameless but Huddersfield have acted like complete dickheads here. Regardless of whether or not the actual home kit looks nice, this has still wound up as a massive advert for Paddy Power. In a country where desperate young men are developing gambling addictions and taking their own lives because they're spiralling into debt, this is very, very irresponsible from both parties. Paddy Power have come out of this looking like geniuses when their aggressive marketing should be getting curtailed. And I bet that not featuring the logo on Huddersfield's shirts has given license for Paddy Power to have their name plastered all over the stadium. Dodgy as feck.
How many people have committed suicide because of gambling addictions?

Is it more than have done so because of alcohol abuse or because of being behind on their mortgage payments? Is it more than are killed on the roads each year? There are a million contributing factors towards depression and suicide so I'm not sure why gambling sponsors get singled out so much more than say Carlsberg or VW?

Gambling is legal in the UK and gambling companies are allowed to advertise. People have their own responsibility not to develop addictions and it's not like the warnings aren't very clearly advertised. This insistence on trying to blame a football club for who they're sponsored by seems very modern twitter hysteria to me.
 

robinamicrowave

Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger
Joined
Jul 29, 2013
Messages
2,739
Supports
Man City
How many people have committed suicide because of gambling addictions?

Is it more than have done so because of alcohol abuse or because of being behind on their mortgage payments? Is it more than are killed on the roads each year? There are a million contributing factors towards depression and suicide so I'm not sure why gambling sponsors get singled out so much more than say Carlsberg or VW?

Gambling is legal in the UK and gambling companies are allowed to advertise. People have their own responsibility not to develop addictions and it's not like the warnings aren't very clearly advertised. This insistence on trying to blame a football club for who they're sponsored by seems very modern twitter hysteria to me.
This study says 550. https://www.theguardian.com/society...t-15-times-higher-risk-of-suicide-study-finds

I totally agree with the first half of your point. I'm happy to get into why advertising of alcohol and gambling is utterly poisonous but I don't know if you have the time.
 

Lennon7

nipple flasher and door destroyer
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
10,475
Location
M5
This is proper scummy from both of them. I'd expect it from Paddy Power because they're utterly shameless but Huddersfield have acted like complete dickheads here. Regardless of whether or not the actual home kit looks nice, this has still wound up as a massive advert for Paddy Power. In a country where desperate young men are developing gambling addictions and taking their own lives because they're spiralling into debt, this is very, very irresponsible from both parties. Paddy Power have come out of this looking like geniuses when their aggressive marketing should be getting curtailed. And I bet that not featuring the logo on Huddersfield's shirts has given license for Paddy Power to have their name plastered all over the stadium. Dodgy as feck.
I agree with regard to the status of betting companies in society but this is just a marketing campaign like any other. In fact, they’ve removed their logo all together.

Loads of clubs are sponsored by betting companies. Some, even worse, as they’re sponsored by pay day lenders and such cnuts. It’s the world of football now and you can’t really blame Huddersfield or PP any more than other clubs that adorn betting logos all season.
 

robinamicrowave

Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger
Joined
Jul 29, 2013
Messages
2,739
Supports
Man City
I agree with regard to the status of betting companies in society but this is just a marketing campaign like any other. In fact, they’ve removed their logo all together.

Loads of clubs are sponsored by betting companies. Some, even worse, as they’re sponsored by pay day lenders and such cnuts. It’s the world of football now and you can’t really blame Huddersfield or PP any more than other clubs that adorn betting logos all season.
Oh I'm not doing. Football is riddled with scum, this is just a particularly egregious flashpoint worth discussing.
 

padzilla

Hipster
Joined
Oct 31, 2005
Messages
3,387
I have a friend who sadly took his own life because of his addiction to online gambling. Surely if there is a risk that anybody could be adversely affected, especially to the point of committing suicide, it stands to reason that the logical thing to do is not advertise it. There are clearly people in the world who are under the dark cloud of addiction and suffering in silence. As a society we have a duty of care to protect the most vulnerable among us not exploit them for financial gain.
 

SportingCP96

emotional range of a teaspoon
Joined
Feb 17, 2014
Messages
9,873
Supports
Sporting Clube de Portugal
Sporting just released a 3rd kit and I think this is the one I am buying this year. I am only not a fan of the collar.

 

Scotty McT

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Apr 22, 2019
Messages
274
I like that. Reminiscent of a 90s United away top.

I also like the Nike writing above the logo. It feels old school. I wish Adidas would have the balls do to an Originals kit for us.
 

Josep Dowling

Full Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2014
Messages
7,639
Chelsea new 3rd kit...

When we were with Nike they made fairly boring kits, now they come out with these classic third kits after we move to Adidas. This season’s home shirt is nice but there has been a lot of rubbish by Adidas. I wish they would just stick to traditional white for the away shirt and dark blue as a third kit, use the trefoil logo. Really isn’t hard.
 

RochaRoja

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2018
Messages
1,567
When we were with Nike they made fairly boring kits, now they come out with these classic third kits after we move to Adidas. This season’s home shirt is nice but there has been a lot of rubbish by Adidas. I wish they would just stick to traditional white for the away shirt and dark blue as a third kit, use the trefoil logo. Really isn’t hard.
Yeah but people wouldn’t buy the away kits of they were the same colour every year. That’s why you get pink and that nonsense pale gold or whatever it is this year. Same with Wolves having a green third kit this year. What a load of absolute bollocks that is. People will buy it for the novelty factor (and I guess they’re trying to sell it to Raúl Jiménez fans too).

It would be nice if they would bring back some rule about only changing every two years so you could have a new away come out one year, which becomes the third kit the next season. Then you could have a decent rotation of blue, white and black kits with United.
 

Renegade

Full Member
Joined
Nov 11, 2009
Messages
5,393
I think prefer when kits changed every 2 years or so. It made the new one feel more exciting in my opinion. By all means change the away kit every season It’s just to much now with all these kit reveals.

Saying that 2 seasons with last seasons home shirt would have been horrific.
 

Josep Dowling

Full Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2014
Messages
7,639
Yeah but people wouldn’t buy the away kits of they were the same colour every year. That’s why you get pink and that nonsense pale gold or whatever it is this year. Same with Wolves having a green third kit this year. What a load of absolute bollocks that is. People will buy it for the novelty factor (and I guess they’re trying to sell it to Raúl Jiménez fans too).

It would be nice if they would bring back some rule about only changing every two years so you could have a new away come out one year, which becomes the third kit the next season. Then you could have a decent rotation of blue, white and black kits with United.
I agree it’s nice to have variety but they have gone way over the top with it. I didn’t mind the pink last season. The grey was horrible, this season’s yellow is just weird, and I don’t think they have made a nice blue kit since take over Nike, the blue has always been wrong.

I am really surprised no one has done a yellow away shirt with a blue collar like we had in the 70s for a couple of seasons.

Adidas managed to make 3 stunning kits for Arsenal this year that had a classic feel to them. I don’t think Adidas has done that at all with any of our shirts.
 

Nick7

Full Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Messages
19,284
Location
Ireland
When we were with Nike they made fairly boring kits, now they come out with these classic third kits after we move to Adidas. This season’s home shirt is nice but there has been a lot of rubbish by Adidas. I wish they would just stick to traditional white for the away shirt and dark blue as a third kit, use the trefoil logo. Really isn’t hard.
Our third kit is black with a shitty print on it too.

I’m not a fan of the Chelsea print or the collar.


Adidas managed to make 3 stunning kits for Arsenal this year that had a classic feel to them. I don’t think Adidas has done that at all with any of our shirts.
Our first season with Adidas was the same. Remade 80’s designs. Third kit was the outlier.
 

RochaRoja

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2018
Messages
1,567
Our first season with Adidas was the same. Remade 80’s designs. Third kit was the outlier.
Yeah, the first home and away are definitely in that category, as is the second black strip they made with the 1992 pattern. It’s almost like that was supposed to be the third kit for the first year of Adidas but they knocked together the orange trim one because of Van Gaal and Memphis.
 

Nick7

Full Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Messages
19,284
Location
Ireland
Yeah, the first home and away are definitely in that category, as is the second black strip they made with the 1992 pattern. It’s almost like that was supposed to be the third kit for the first year of Adidas but they knocked together the orange trim one because of Van Gaal and Memphis.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but did that third kit have that pattern too? But just on the chest? The shorts certainly did, they faded from black to white with the pattern
 

RochaRoja

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2018
Messages
1,567
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but did that third kit have that pattern too? But just on the chest? The shorts certainly did, they faded from black to white with the pattern
You’re right actually.

To be honest, while Arsenal’s home and away are classic Arsenal kits, the third is similarly a mix of traditional/retro and different too. It has both blue and yellow on the shirt but the shorts are black for some reason.

The Arsenal third and the United third from their first Adidas seasons would both be much better if all three parts of the kit were the same colour.
 

Scotty McT

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Apr 22, 2019
Messages
274
Huddersfield have been fined £50,000 after admitting a charge relating to the Football Association’s kit and advertising regulations. The club were widely criticised for a sash-style shirt which bore the logo of a bookmaker when they unveiled it as their home kit in July.

They wore the shirt in a friendly against Rochdale on 17 July, with the logo appearing to exceed the Football Association’s guidelines of 250 square centimetres, and were charged with misconduct. Huddersfield and the bookmaker admitted it was a stunt before the Championship club brought out a sponsor-free kit for this season.

On Thursday the FA confirmed the club had been sanctioned and warned over their future conduct. The bookmaker, Paddy Power, tweeted: “1st August: The FA fine Millwall £10,000 for supporters’ racist chanting. 5th September: The FA fine Huddersfield Town £50,000 for wearing a fake shirt in a pre-season friendly.”

The FA’s written reasons included a statement from the referee Martin Coy, who said Huddersfield’s chairman, Phil Hodgkinson, had asked him to ban the kit, which “could then potentially be good publicity and part of the advertising campaign”. Coy said he was “uncomfortable with this and felt it was not my place to ban the kit”.

Huddersfield’s operations manager, Ann Hough, told the FA the shirt was a one-off spoof and had been kept from the Huddersfield board until the day of the match, with the club’s case “that apparently no thought was given to the FA’s kit regulations as it was assumed or presumed they did not apply to pre-season friendlies”.

Huddersfield were informed on the afternoon of the match by the FA that if the shirt were worn they may face action. It had been decided a training kit would be used instead but when the bookmaker was informed Hodgkinson, according to the FA’s written reasons, said: “We were threatened with legal action and the sponsor said that it would be deemed to be a material breach of the sponsorship agreement if the team did not wear the oversized logo.”

The chairman added: “This is an unfortunate event but we accept responsibility and offer a full apology.”

In reply to the FA’s submissions Hough said: “At the time, and under time pressures, we felt that the ramifications (not just financial) of litigation were potentially very damaging to the club

The article continues on the Guardian.
 

Aidan Azar

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Sep 2, 2014
Messages
461
Supports
Chelsea
Thoughts on the new England shirt? I quite like it myself but seems to be dividing opinion so far.

 

awop

Odds winner of 'Odds or Evens 2022/2023'
Newbie
Joined
Sep 28, 2010
Messages
4,164
Location
Paris
Supports
Arsenal
Looks more like a pre-match kit than the actual one. It's alright but don't like the collar.