Still it’s only 60-70 goals and we need another 30+ on top of those.
Hope everyone would step up and also we sign a decent winger who can chip in another 15-20.
Where do we find more goals ?
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Hope everyone would step up and also we sign a decent winger who can chip in another 15-20.
It's hard to say really. I'm quite optimistic, but all I can give is a guess.
Ole's tactics, so far this preseason, seem to be far more proactive, playing football much higher up the pitch and creating lots of chances. We have exceptional finishers in Martial, Greenwood, Mata and Lukaku (although I'd imagine he is leaving). We have other good finishers in Rasford, Pogba, etc. Our problem last year was that we created feck all, if we can transfer Ole's good work from preseason successfully, I think we have a lot of goals in this team.
Ole's tactics, so far this preseason, seem to be far more proactive, playing football much higher up the pitch and creating lots of chances. We have exceptional finishers in Martial, Greenwood, Mata and Lukaku (although I'd imagine he is leaving). We have other good finishers in Rasford, Pogba, etc. Our problem last year was that we created feck all, if we can transfer Ole's good work from preseason successfully, I think we have a lot of goals in this team.
Ah come on now pal, as it seem you're now trying you're level best at taking the piss out of me "criteria" never once said he had to be just epl proven or had scored loads of goals in said league, just a better league then, read below.Was that not your criteria? Longstaff has scored at a good rate in other leagues but you said that couldn't be used as a guide for potential PL performance
Look we both know there's a massive difference in scoring in a 3 tier league against the mighty Wallsall, Doncastor, oldham etc and Spl pub teams like Ross county, Inverness, and scoring in the likes of the Italian, la Liga and German leagues against better players and decent teams, than those mighty teams I listed he he has scored against, remember SPL has two ok teams IN Celtic and Rangers, yet he couldnt manage a goal against either
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He's a CM with a good shot on him. CMs in every league on earth are allowed shooting opportunities. It's the nature of the position. Those who strike the ball well will score some goals. Longstaff has a terrific strike on him so he will always score goalsAh come on now pal, as it seem you're now trying you're level best at taking the piss out of me "criteria" never once said he had to be just epl proven or had scored loads of goals in said league, just a better league then, read below.
Look we both know there's a massive difference in scoring in a 3 tier league against the mighty Wallsall, Doncastor, oldham etc and Spl pub teams like Ross county, Inverness, and scoring in the likes of the Italian, la Liga and German leagues against better players and decent teams, than those mighty teams I listed he he has scored against, remember SPL has two ok teams IN Celtic and Rangers, yet he couldnt manage a goal against either
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It's not as easy as projecting goals for each player on the basis of their talent level. Our overall attacking production will depend on the efficacy of Ole's attacking system which we cant possibly know much about right this moment. On paper the team doesn't look to have a shortage of finishers but then we could get to the pitch and struggle to create quality chances like the back end of last season
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It may not come to pass, but we need substantially more goal production out of Rashford and Martial. We can tally up goals scored expectations but if our two top forwards don't raise their game this season we're going to struggle winning matches. I'd like to see 40 goals between those two. In years past we could blame exigent circumstances such as lack of maturity and poor management. There are no excuses now.
It's too hard to speculate on what Greenwood and Sanchez will be able to deliver in 19/20. We're still not sure whether Pogba will remain and if he does whether he'll contribute another 16 goals.
It's too hard to speculate on what Greenwood and Sanchez will be able to deliver in 19/20. We're still not sure whether Pogba will remain and if he does whether he'll contribute another 16 goals.
Alexis as well. If we somehow get about 5-7 goals out of each of them, we could be looking at an entirely different season than what we expect/It may not come to pass, but we need substantially more goal production out of Rashford and Martial. We can tally up goals scored expectations but if our two top forwards don't raise their game this season we're going to struggle winning matches. I'd like to see 40 goals between those two. In years past we could blame exigent circumstances such as lack of maturity and poor management. There are no excuses now.
It's too hard to speculate on what Greenwood and Sanchez will be able to deliver in 19/20. We're still not sure whether Pogba will remain and if he does whether he'll contribute another 16 goals.
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Most goals doesn't have to come from strikers, as long as they benefit others to score more. Drogba and Benzema were prime examples. I can see Rashford to fill this role, but less so for Martial.
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Weirdly, Maguire could.
He'd probably score 5-6 himself from set pieces and his decent passing game from the back might provide our attackers. He'd probably contribute to a surprising number of goals if we got him.
Apart from that - new players. The ones we have proved last season they cannot be relied upon for goals. AWB and James are not making any difference there. James might grab a few off the bench, but nothing major. If we go in as we are, we cannot expect any improvement.
He'd probably score 5-6 himself from set pieces and his decent passing game from the back might provide our attackers. He'd probably contribute to a surprising number of goals if we got him.
Apart from that - new players. The ones we have proved last season they cannot be relied upon for goals. AWB and James are not making any difference there. James might grab a few off the bench, but nothing major. If we go in as we are, we cannot expect any improvement.
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No, we'd have to spend loads to aim for top two for little extra benefit than 4th. That's how the club would view it - cost-benefit analysis.I see 4th as a baseline for what is acceptable, not a target. A target would be top two imo.
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It comes from coaching, the management need to instruct players how to move the ball into the box to penetrate the goal area. Much of our club's history we've had generational level talent lead the line which has taken away the impetus needed in goals coming from all directions. We are potentially heading into next season with Lingard, Rashford and Martial. The only thing that's going to get them enough goals for a feasible league finish is a miracle.
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I always feel like playing Lukaku actually costs us net goals overall rather than adding to it, because of the style we seem to default to when he's playing.
No Lukaku or Alexis replacements and no goals from open play in 3 games. Predictable incompetence from Woodward.
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Why did the manager agree to their sales?No Lukaku or Alexis replacements and no goals from open play in 3 games. Predictable incompetence from Woodward.
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I don't buy this argument.I always feel like playing Lukaku actually costs us net goals overall rather than adding to it, because of the style we seem to default to when he's playing.
He definitely has his faults but he was our only consistent goalscorer and should only have been sold if a better striker was being brought in as an alternative.
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Do people really think that Lukaku would have had any positive impact on our performances, he would have been shocking just as he has been the last year.
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I feel a huge part of the problem is the lack of movement from the front 6. Almost everygame you can see the centre backs struggling to find options other than the full backs, playera are just standing around expecting the ball to come then move it on again.
And its not just this season, for a while this group has lacked bravery and movement and i believe thats why Lingard is loved by a group, because its night and day when hes on the pitch.
For all his lack of ability, he is always moving and finding the ball, even if he cant produce much with it, but if our other more technically advanced players offered 75% of his movement, we would create alot more clear chances i feel
And its not just this season, for a while this group has lacked bravery and movement and i believe thats why Lingard is loved by a group, because its night and day when hes on the pitch.
For all his lack of ability, he is always moving and finding the ball, even if he cant produce much with it, but if our other more technically advanced players offered 75% of his movement, we would create alot more clear chances i feel
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He would have scored important goals as he has done everywhere he has ever been.Do people really think that Lukaku would have had any positive impact on our performances, he would have been shocking just as he has been the last year.
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Definitely don't look like a side capable of scoring.
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That’s depressing, but kind of right. I’m not sure who the last attacking player is that improved under our watch.By doing something that none of our attacking players have done in the last decade - becoming better than they were the season before.
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No real surprise given the lineup today. Having Mata/Pereira/McTominay/Matic as 4 of the 6 mids and attackers is always going to be hopeless.Definitely don't look like a side capable of scoring.
He's not faultless either.Why did the manager agree to their sales?