Rate our current Transfer window

Robertd0803 · Aug 7, 2019

5.5 out of 10 currently.

The 5 for sorting the defence and .5 for adding James to the attack (lets face it we have no idea how he will turn out).

No midfielder and no replacing Lukaku seems so beyond stupid to me.

We can always sell abroad after tomorrow right? So not too fussed at some of the deadwood still being here yet. No one in England will buy any of our players anyway since Sunderland have faded in to obscurity.

Enigma_87 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
He had not played more than a half 6 times in a run of 7 games, after being the main man under Jose. That’s marginalised. Lingard and Martial get injured in the same game (13th February?), with Mata getting injured a week later and Sanchez a week after that (all of them missed at least 6 games) and lo and behold Lukaku’s stats show him starting games. Funny that. He was played because options were taken away from Ole. And now, at his first opportunity Ole has tried to move him on. I mean, what more evidence do you want?

We were short on CF even last year when Jose wanted Mandzukic. We literally had only Lukaku and if he was off form/injured you had nobody to replace him with.

Same with Ole. Even if he wanted to replace him you didn't have an option. He tried Sanchez - failed, started with Rashford or Martial but neither were too convincing either.

We were linked with Ben Yadder, again Mandzukic, even Llorente. Obviously we wanted a CF but left it too late. If you think Lukaku being sold without replacement in place was Ole plan from the off then you are delusional.

MrSingh2002 · Aug 7, 2019

I'd award 2 points for sorting the defence, 2 for midfield, 2 for attack, 4 for selling deadwood.

So overall I'll give 4 points. 2 for defence (AWB and Maguire), 1 for attack (James) and 1 for seemingly getting rid of Lukaku but not Jones, Darmian or Matic.

4/10

Ian Reus · Aug 7, 2019

Sh1te/10

ivaldo · Aug 7, 2019

Enigma_87 said:
We were short on CF even last year when Jose wanted Mandzukic. We literally had only Lukaku and if he was off form/injured you had nobody to replace him with.

Same with Ole. Even if he wanted to replace him you didn't have an option. He tried Sanchez - failed, started with Rashford or Martial but neither were too convincing either.

We were linked with Ben Yadder, again Mandzukic, even Llorente. Obviously we wanted a CF but left it too late. If you think Lukaku being sold without replacement in place was Ole plan from the off then you are delusional.

So you don’t want to discuss Lukaku being marginalised any more? After you told me to ‘put down’ whatever I was on, and gleefully shared your stats with me, I’ve put those stats into context, and shown that he only came back into the fold properly when we lost 3 attackers in the space of, what, 2 weeks? So you agree he was marginalised now, yes?

ivaldo · Aug 7, 2019

MrSingh2002 said:
I'd award 2 points for sorting the defence, 2 for midfield, 2 for attack, 4 for selling deadwood.

So overall I'll give 4 points. 2 for defence (AWB and Maguire), 1 for attack (James) and 1 for seemingly getting rid of Lukaku but not Jones, Darmian or Matic.

4/10

So the only way he’d get a 10/10 was if he signed 9 players this window? :nervous:

Krakenzero · Aug 7, 2019

De Gea and Pogba not leaving may be the biggest success of the transfer window.
The other big success was finally adressing an elephant in the room (CB+RB). Sadly, the other one (CM+AM) is still there and there's no time to fix it.

The fact that big names would only come to (or stay at) United for huge paychecks is a bad sign for the future. Not getting rid of the "not good enough" players, same thing.

Lennon7 · Aug 7, 2019

5/10 only because we’ve finally got a half decent defence. Done absolutely nothing to sure up the midfield or inject an ounce of creativity though.

MrSingh2002 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
So the only way he’d get a 10/10 was if he signed 9 players this window?

2 were needed for defence. RB and CB two points awarded.

2 were needed to replace Herrera and Fellaini in midfield. No points awarded.

2 were needed for attack to replace Mata and Lukaku. One point awarded for James.

4 points would have been awarded to sell Jones, Darmian, Matic and Lukaku. One point awarded.

Jones and Darmian aren't required in the squad and have already been replaced by Dalot, AWB and Maguire.

10 points would have been awarded had we signed 6 players and sold 4 players.

ivaldo · Aug 7, 2019

MrSingh2002 said:
2 were needed for defence. RB and CB two points awarded.

2 were needed to replace Herrera and Fellaini in midfield. No points awarded.

2 were needed for attack to replace Mata and Lukaku. One point awarded for James.

4 points would have been awarded to sell Jones, Darmian, Matic and Lukaku. One point awarded.

Jones and Darmian aren't required in the squad and have already been replaced by Dalot, AWB and Maguire.

10 points would have been awarded had we signed 6 players and sold 4 players.

I dunno, that’s an enormous rotation of players. I wouldn’t be easy with that level of movement at all. How often have we seen that actually work?

MisterLupus · Aug 7, 2019

6/10 or 8/10 - depending on how well our youngsters fare. Maguire and Wan Bissaka are major upgrades to what I consider our most desperate weak spot - and we managed to keep our two key players and also I believe our focus on fitness and professionalism will pay off. A proper midfield general and a capable goalscorer up front however would make me feel more at ease - as we're lacking proven first-team quality in those areas (that's where the youngster-variable kicks in and to be honest I believe they're up for it I've been impressed by their growth).

MrSingh2002 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
That’s an enormous rotation of players. I wouldn’t be easy with that level of movement at all. How often have we seen that actually work?

I would. Chelsea under Abramovich to win the league. City to win the league. 6 in and 4 out is exactly what we should have been aiming for. As it stands we now fall another year behind in the plan to get rid of shite players and bring in actual talent.

Not to mention we'll start the season with a midfield weaker than last season which was poor and without a world class number 9. Failure of epic proportions which we will all see in a matter of months.

kafta · Aug 7, 2019

4/10 for me. 3 more players were needed.

Lennon7 · Aug 7, 2019

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Cathy Ferguson · Aug 7, 2019

Net spend of 75m then, couldnt even reach 100m.

ivaldo · Aug 7, 2019

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A reminder that, despite Tielemans being available for just £40mil, he ended up at Leicester.

simonhch · Aug 7, 2019

6/10.

- Got our top two targets in defence, which both hugely improve the squad.
- Need a CM still.
- Need a RW still.

But the biggest problem, the defence, has seemingly been solved.

- Outgoings can be judged at the end of the window, because we have another 3 weeks to shift the deadwood.
- Getting (more or less) our money back on Lukaku, is a great deal.

Two more windows like this, and the squad will look good. I would rather be patient and get the right players in. If we can't, then I'd more happily take a chance on giving minutes to our excellent young prospects.

dannyrhinos89 · Aug 7, 2019

Imagine a time where wolves and Everton show more ambition than us.

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Aug 7, 2019

Not as bad as last year, not good though. We've improved our defence a lot, but weakened in midfield and attack with the losses of Herrera and Lukaku. It's looking like we won't replace either. 5/10.

MrSingh2002 · Aug 7, 2019

Eriksen - Ajax
Dybala - Palermo
Tielemans - Anderlecht
Maguire - Hull
Semedo - Benfica
Strootman - PSV
Fabinho - Monaco
De Ligt 2017 - Ajax
Zaha sold for some reason.

We've been fecking dithering ever since dithering Dave and Ed showed up. We've missed out on a shedload of rising stars when they were available and we had a free run at them.

We wait until they move to a bigger club and then pay over the odds.

AWB, Martial, Lindelof, De Gea types of signings should be our model. We should have lists prepared well in advance of transfer windows with the worlds best young talent aged 18-24 for every position and be ready to move whenever we need a player in a certain position. Sounds simple but I really don't know what our scouts and recruitment people are actually doing when they can't sign a single midfielder when it was surely the priority after getting a RB and CB.

Surely there's a CDM in the world that we can sign today to better us. Same with a number 10. When your scouting dept has the resources we have and your club has the finances we have there's no excuses for failure. feck Ed and feck the Glazers for how they manage the club.

Castia · Aug 7, 2019

5/10

Defence is ok now but there are big gaps all over the squad noticeably in midfield, RW and attack.

With Lukaku gone our net spend is relatively low again like last summer, we could be doing more.

Abhinav · Aug 7, 2019

5/10.

I can’t believe we haven’t strengthened our CM and attacking positions. With Lukaku being sold, it is criminal that we are not bringing in a reinforcement. As it stands, we have Lingard/ Mason/ James/ Mata for the RW position and Mata/Lingard/ Perreira for the number 10 position (discounting Alexis because we never got the real Alexis). That is sub-standard starting attacking options for a team with Top 4 ambitions.

Real Madras · Aug 7, 2019

Am I the only one that feels there will be a big announcement tomorrow for a player none of us thought we would sign or be linked to? Happened with Martial on deadline day. One can hope. Come on Ed and Matt! Get something sorted for us!!!!

Ranchero · Aug 7, 2019

Diabolical. We had to invest in our midfield. That's what makes the difference in reaching top 4.

Right now Wolves have overtaken us, supposedly one of the richest clubs in the world.
And unless something happens in the next 21 hours a laughing stock. Theresa May is a better negotiator.

Ranchero · Aug 7, 2019

Real Madras said:
Am I the only one that feels there will be a big announcement tomorrow for a player none of us thought we would sign or be linked to? Happened with Martial on deadline day. One can hope. Come on Ed and Matt! Get something sorted for us!!!!

YES and yes.

Nou_Camp99 · Aug 7, 2019

Cathy Ferguson said:
Net spend of 75m then, couldnt even reach 100m.

If we sell Rojo, Darmian before end of the foreign window and if Zaha leaves Palace we will be spending less than 50m as it stands.

Laughing stock.

SaintMuppet · Aug 7, 2019

Average

One signing from it being good though

Fingers crossed

El-Manos · Aug 7, 2019

Real Madras said:
Am I the only one that feels there will be a big announcement tomorrow for a player none of us thought we would sign or be linked to? Happened with Martial on deadline day. One can hope. Come on Ed and Matt! Get something sorted for us!!!!

No mate. It’s not happening.

Real Madras · Aug 7, 2019

Ranchero said:
YES and yes.

Good to see I’m not the only one brother! I got my white shirt and yellow tie ready for deadline day.

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson · Aug 7, 2019

MrSingh2002 said:
I'd award 2 points for sorting the defence, 2 for midfield, 2 for attack, 4 for selling deadwood.

So overall I'll give 4 points. 2 for defence (AWB and Maguire), 1 for attack (James) and 1 for seemingly getting rid of Lukaku but not Jones, Darmian or Matic.

4/10

That's a bit detailed?

C if Lukaku is now going (and we have a sell on clause).

B if we get a Def mid or a RW. A if we did that and sold Darmian and Rojo.

Real Madras · Aug 7, 2019

El-Manos said:
No mate. It’s not happening.

Keep your bad energy far from any of my posts. I don’t need your negativity! Haha only joking. Let a fellow fan dream and stop shitting on my parade

Ollie Derbyshire · Aug 7, 2019

Think some people expect too much at times, only thing missing is a top quality attacking midfielder, someone who can share the burden with Pogba. Shame Eriksen fell through.

Overall I’d rate this window as a 7, get someone like Fernandes and I’d give it an 8.

Wan Bissaka and Maguire and excellent buys, I’m not bothered about the transfer fees, they are both excellent defenders in positions we needed to improve. Our back 5 is up there with anyone this season I think.

Midfield needs work over the next couple of windows if we don’t bring in a late one. I think McTominay will be a big plus and I’d like to see more of Gomes I the 10 roll.

Attack, happy to sell Lukaku as he doesn’t fit the type of football Ole wants to play. We need Rashford & Martial to step up which I hope they will but willing to go with it this year to give them a proper chance. James has looked exciting in pre season as well. Will be an important squad player this year.

Biggest disappointment is not clearing out the deadwood but we can’t shift what others don’t want. We need to learn from this and make sure we don’t get into this position again.

Lennon7 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
A reminder that, despite Tielemans being available for just £40mil, he ended up at Leicester.

What’s your point? We didn’t go in for him, so we didn’t get him. He went for £40m so wouldn’t have been much more for United

Ranchero · Aug 7, 2019

Abhinav said:
5/10.

I can’t believe we haven’t strengthened our CM and attacking positions. With Lukaku being sold, it is criminal that we are not bringing in a reinforcement. As it stands, we have Lingard/ Mason/ James/ Mata for the RW position and Mata/Lingard/ Perreira for the number 10 position (discounting Alexis because we never got the real Alexis). That is sub-standard starting attacking options for a team with Top 4 ambitions.

I can cope without investing up front but we have been screaming for creativity in central midfield for six years yet it is Spurs who already have some class that seem to be doing the business.

What we would give for Ndombele. And they want more.

We.are a joke

Andy_Cole · Aug 7, 2019

I’m going to rate the last 3 windows.

In:
Fred
Dalot
Grant
AWB
James
Maguire

Out:
Herrera
Lukaku

Net Spend approx £150m

We’ve lost an attacker, not brought in one for our first team.

Grant doesn’t add anything.

2 for the future. Dalot and James

Fred doesn’t really add anything

A Young RB

A Centre Back.

I’d rate the past three as 2/10.

This window itself, as there’s two first team additions, 5/10.

Considering we came 6th last season. This is embarrassing. We can’t compare with city and Liverpool’s lack of spending as they’re on top. We’re chasing.

ivaldo · Aug 7, 2019

Lennon7 said:
What’s your point? We didn’t go in for him, so we didn’t get him. He went for £40m so wouldn’t have been much more for United

The point is he wasn’t so incredible player we’ve missed out on as he was trying to make out.

Gerald G · Aug 7, 2019

4.5/10

yamo123x · Aug 7, 2019

Are you all ready for the Ole interview where he smiles and is very happy, says he got the players he wanted in key positions, that the young players will get a chance as is the Utd way and that the club tried to bring another but it wasn’t to be, no value etc etc yawn yawn

Lennon7 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
The point is he wasn’t so incredible player we’ve missed out on as he was trying to make out.

No, but he’d have been a great buy for us and we just ignored him at £40m. We’re now stuck with a very thin and lacking midfield.

Enigma_87 · Aug 7, 2019

ivaldo said:
So you don’t want to discuss Lukaku being marginalised any more? After you told me to ‘put down’ whatever I was on, and gleefully shared your stats with me, I’ve put those stats into context, and shown that he only came back into the fold properly when we lost 3 attackers in the space of, what, 2 weeks? So you agree he was marginalised now, yes?

I think you are moving goal posts, mate. What I said from the off is that we didn't replace Lukaku in terms of CF position. Not Lukaku as a player himself. Yes, obviously Ole doesn't fancy him and he wouldn't stay, but that also doesn't mean that we shouldn't replace him in the team as a striker.

My point was that, even though he didn't fancy him, he still used him a lot because he didn't have a replacement for that position. He doesn't have one either.

Greenwood would of course get games and minutes but we can't use him in Lukaku's place - playing 70-80% of the games as a starter.

Mata, Sanchez, etc they are not fighting for place in the same position, Alexis was tried and he didn't work. Mata is way off in terms of being used as a striker. We have Rashford, Martial, Sanchez, throw in James and Greenwood for 3 positions. Two of them haven't played at senior level. Even Messi was eased into that Barca team despite being an obvious talent. That's not enough you have to agree.

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