Road Trip Draft II 1st Round: harms vs Pat_Mustard

Who will win based on all the players at their club career peak as mentioned?


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Welcome to the Road Trip Draft II KO Stage.

Only the club career for the clubs mentioned against player names will be considered for evaluation. No national teams performances count whatsoever.


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TEAM HARMS

I'll post a more detailed write up on my players' club careers later, but I'm really happy with what I've got here.

Defense.

My defensive unit is just incredible, lead by the AC Milan's and Serie A Player of the Century. Jaap Stam was a one-man wall for the Fergie's treble-winning side; Djalma had played close to 1000 official club games and is considered a true legend by three Brazilian clubs; Bossis had played in every defensive role possible and 2 times — in 1979 and 1981, he was voted as a French Player of the Year. Keep in mind that the likes of Michel Platini, Jean Tigana, Alain Giresse and Manuel Amoros were all eligible at the time.

Midfield.

In my midfield I have 2 mavericks — Falcão and Netzer, who are going to play some breathtaking football, with Néstor Gonçalves acting as a holder. If there ever was a draft to pick him and give him a Voronin treatment, it was this one.

In the 1980s, during the heydey for Italian club football, when Serie A thrived with great teams and the world’s best players, it was the intense rivalry between Juventus and Roma which gripped the nation. Platini was indispensable for the Bianconeri while Falcão’s instrumental influence in the Roma side drove the Giallorossi to their first title in 41 years and ensured that the rivalry brought success to both teams. If not for the infamous Er’ go’ de Turone game, when the referee had given Juventus an off-side goal, Falcão would've had 1 more league title to his name.

Netzer was the diamond in Borussia Mönchengladbach's crown. It was probably the best league rivalry in Bundesliga's history — star-studded Bayern Munich side (Beckenbauer, Müller, Breitner & Maier) had competed with Borussia (Netzer, Vogts, Bohof, Heynckes, Stielike) at the domestic arena year after year with alternating result. Netzer was a part of the kicker's Bundesliga Team of the Season for 7 seasons in a row and also won Footballer of the Year in Germany twice. With peak Beckenbauer and Müller around.

Finally, anchoring the midfield is Néstor Gonçalves, the Captain of Captains — the fulcrum of Peñarol's side of the 60's that was voted as the best South American club side of the century by IFFHS. Yes, even ahead of Pelé's Santos.



Attack.

Jairzinho replaced his idol Garrincha not only in the national team, but also for Botafogo. He's had more freedom than he did for Brazil and scored at the astonishing rate for someone who was not a striker — he had scored 186 goals in 413 appearances.

Ferenc Puskás is in his Real Madrid version. The man was simply a goalscoring machine and he'll love the support that I've given him. His performances in the European Cup are immensely impressive — to score 3 and 4 goals in different EC finals, imagine that! Even though he had played until he was 39, he still managed to maintain a 1 in 1 goal-per-game ration, scoring 242 goals in 262 appearances. He was La Liga's top scorer 4 times and twice he ended up as one in the European Cup.

If you think Puskás' trophy haul is impressive, take a look at Paco Gento. He appeared in a joint record eight European Cup finals, winning a record six, as well as winning 12 La Liga titles.


TEAM PAT_MUSTARD

Formation and Tactical Synopsis:

Counter-attacking 4-3-1-2 that can seamlessly convert to a 5-3-2 if required. Scirea commands the defence, with Guido Buchwald playing a tactically vital role as a midfield destroyer who can drop back into the defensive line. Leandro and Roberto Carlos provide much of our attacking width. Eusebio is the main man in our attack, and finds himself in something approaching his ideal habitat, enjoying a free role in a counter-attacking set-up, with an abundance of creativity behind him and a powerful, line-leading centre forward in Gigi Riva to play off.

Player Roles and League Credentials:

Lev Yashin: Goalkeeper (USSR): A one-club man for Dynamo Moscow, 5 time Soviet Top League winner, and the only goalkeeper ever to win the Ballon d’Or. Quite possibly the greatest ever in his position, and his credentials are unimpeachable.

Leandro: Attacking Right-Back (Brazil): Another one-club man with an impressive trophy haul – he won 5 Rio State championships, 3 Brazilian national championships, a Copa Libertadores and an Intercontinental Cup for Flamengo , achieving 2 Bola De Prata awards for himself along the way. He plays as a modern attacking full-back here, providing width on our right wing , utilising his excellent dribbling and long-passing, and defending against Gento (he was good enough to retain his place in the Brazil squad as a centre-back towards the end of his career after a serious injury).

Gaetano Scirea: Libero (Italy): One of the vanishingly few players who can seriously rival his opposite number Baresi as the best defender on the pitch. A 7 time Serie A winner, he’s the command centre of our defence, and he’ll step into midfield when we’re in possession to initiate our attacks.

Jose Santamaria: Centre-Back/Stopper (Uruguay): The rugged, physical foil to Scirea, he’ll closely monitor his former teammate Puskas when he’s in his zone. He won 5 Uruguayan championships for Nacional and forged an illustrious reputation before departing for Real Madrid at the age of 28.

Roberto Carlos: Attacking Left-Back (Spain): Arguably the greatest attacking left-back ever, he spent 11 seasons in La Liga for Real Madrid rampaging up and down that left wing. His role mirrors that of his compatriot Leandro – a one-man flank.

Guido Buchwald: Midfield Destroyer/Auxiliary Centre Back (Germany): A Bundesliga stalwart who scored the goal that won the championship for Stuttgart on the final day of the 1991-92 season, he plays a tactically crucial role for us here. Patrolling the zone in front of our defence against the threat of Netzer and Puskas, he can seamlessly drop back to switch our formation to 3-5-2/5-3-2 if the match situation calls for it, and when we’re in possession he can drop back to CB to cover for any forays forward that Scirea makes. More commonly used in drafts as a pure CB, Kicker magazine awarded him their highest ranking of ‘world class’ as a defensive midfielder in 1990, and ranked him as the best defensive midfielder in the Bundesliga on three occasions in addition to his accolades at centre back.

Graeme Souness: Defensive B2B Midfielder (England): In seven seasons with Liverpool he won an astonishing 5 league titles and 3 European Cups, the bastard. Hard as granite and silky on the ball, he’ll play a conservative role here in our counter-attacking set-up.

Josef Masopust: B2B Midfielder (Czechoslovakia): Winner of 8 league titles during his 18 year career in the Czechoslovakian top-flight, the Ballon d’Or winning Masopust was a rare meld of industry and world class creativity. His natural game, particularly his famous dribbling, dictates that he’ll be more offensive than Souness, but he’s a midfielder first and foremost here who will get behind the ball when we lose possession and contribute to the defensive effort.

Michael Laudrup: Attacking Midfielder (Spain): For a time during the first half of the 1990s, Laudrup appeared to guarantee his club a La Liga title, winning four on the bounce with Barcelona, before joining Real Madrid and immediately wresting the title from the Nou Camp to the Bernabeu. Off the ball, we want him to press Goncalves and block off passing lanes to him. On the ball, he’ll provide sumptuous service for Eusebio and Riva.

Luigi Riva: Centre-Forward (Italy): Riva’s heroics in dragging Cagliari to the Serie A title in 1969-70 has to rank as one of the all-time great individual contributions to a title campaign, with the three-time Capocannoniere scoring exactly 50% of his team’s league goals that season. Out of possession, he’s tasked with using his impressive work-rate to press the opposition defence and in particular to limit Baresi’s time on the ball. In possession, this mobile, skilful battering ram provides both an immense goal threat and the back to goal play required to make our counter-attacking game tick.

Eusebio: Free-Role Second Striker (Portugal): The crown jewel of the team. Utterly prolific for Benfica both domestically and in Europe, he has complete freedom in our counter-attacking set-up, able to either drop deep to embark on one of those thrillingly direct runs at goal, or use his searing pace to run in behind. With two top-notch attacking FBs providing the width, a powerful CF to play off, and excellent creativity behind him, we think we’ve provided him with a great opportunity to shine here.
 

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I haven’t finished my Gonçalves compilation (I’ll have to rewatch it before posting because quality of footage is quite poor), but I’ll share this one by @Joga Bonito


That Peñarol team was really quite something and if any draft is suited to thoroughly highlighting their players, it’s this one. They’ve played against the best the world had to offer and usually won - be it Celtic like above or Real Madrid that I’ll upload later.

In September 2009 Peñarol was entitled Best South American team of the Twentieth Century by the IFFHS. Even ahead of Pelé’s Santos, La Maquina etc.
 

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That Peñarol team was really quite something and if any draft is suited to thoroughly highlighting their players, it’s this one. They’ve played against the best the world had to offer and usually won - be it Celtic like above or Real Madrid that I’ll upload later.
I watched 2 of their games earlier today. Was really impressed with the pace and tempo of their game.

If anyone does want to watch their games in future, checkout the one with River plate in 1966 Copa Libertadores final ahead of the Real Madrid 1966 one. The Madrid one I felt Madrid dominated proceedings for most of the time while the River Plate one, Penarol was all over the opposition from the start. Definitely a better watch if scouting players from that team (except for Spencer who tore Madrid apart too)
 
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I watched 2 of their games earlier today. Was really impressed with the pace and tempo of their game.

If anyone does wants to watch their games in future, checkout the one with River plate in 1966 Copa Libertadores final ahead of the Real Madrid 1966 one. The Madrid one I felt Madrid dominated proceedings for most of the time while the River Plate one, Penarol was all over the opposition from the start. Definitely a better watch if scouting players from that team (except for Spencer who tore Madrid apart too)
were did you find the game for River, i wanted to make Spencer vid but the video quality(footballia) was poor.
 

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Yeah, Peñarol had turned off completely in the second half against Madrid except for Mazurka, which is understandable, since they were already 4:0 up over 2 legs.
 

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I also want to highlight Netzer here. Perhaps he's not as easy on the eye as Michael Laudrup, but he was equally effective and absolutely decisive for Borussia Mönchengladbach of the late 60s and 70s.

In Gladbach’s first season in the Bundesliga, the side had an average age of just under 22-years-old. Among them stood a 20-year-old son of a greengrocer with strong sympathies to the socialist cause. Used predominantly as a playmaker that kickstarted phases of play with his unique vision and chipped in with a healthy goal return, Günter Netzer was a poster boy for the new era of Gladbach.

Carrying himself with as much swagger off the pitch as on it, the young German typified the rebellious nature of his side and of a wider, more radical Germany behind him. As success followed Weisweiler’s side, pundits would pit the rogue charm of Netzer as the antithesis to Bayern’s Franz Beckenbauer; the all-knowing Kaiser and bastion of rationality. Little did people care that Bayern homed Germany’s most controversial star, Paul Breitner, the dye had been cast and Gladbach were the anti-establishment to Bayern’s oppressive rule.

In the 1969/70 season, die Fohlen won their first Bundesliga, finishing ahead of Bayern by four points over 34 matches, despite the goalscoring exploits of Gerd Müller. The following year, Gladbach became the first side to retain the Bundesliga, this time two points ahead of the more controlled possession football from Münich and there was a growing sense of anticipation at what could be achieved by this young side. In Europe that year, Gladbach had comprehensively beaten Inter Milan by seven goals to one and a watching Matt Busby waxed lyrical in praise of the German side’s “pace, power, and innovation”.

In spite of a German Cup win in the 1972/73 season, Gladbach lost their star player to Real Madrid at the end of the year. Fresh from success at the 1972 European Championships with West Germany and having scored the winner in the DFB Pokal final, Madrid tempted Netzer to become the first German to play in Spain, and for Weisweiler, an opportunity for introspection presented itself.


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Günter NETZER

World class: 4 times
International class: 10 times
Broad circle: 3 times
Considered: 3 times

One of the great legends of 1970s football, Netzer was not only one of the best ever playmakers in world football but arguably the most charismatic player ever to come out of Germany. His one phenomenal gift were his long passes which he would spray “from the depth of space” and his affectionately celebrated set-pieces. His chipped freekicks were pure eye candy. With his space-consuming footsteps he could quickly cover a lot of ground coming from deep of his own half. One of the best football strategists, he was a superb conductor of the pace of a game. Not known for a fast acceleration, he would accelerate the game instead. His ball control was wonderful and his shooting technique sophisticated. In his club Mönchengladbach the very self-confident Netzer was naturally at the absolute center of all things, on and off the pitch. But even the greatest do have weaknesses. He would react sensitively to hard tackling and foul play. Considering himself as a free thinker, Netzer was not known to indulge into too much defensive work, he preferred to have ‘workers’ around him that would present him the ball on a plate. Netzer and his almost equally legendary manager at Mönchengladbach, Hennes Weisweiler, were known to share a ‘love-hate’ relationship. Interestingly, much of the quarrel between the two stemmed from Netzer wanting to play less offensive, with more focus on defense while Weisweiler was an advocate of trying to annihilate opponents by an assault of total attacking football. It wasn’t until 1971 that Netzer finally managed to breakthrough in the national team, with Mönchengladbach having become the first Bundesliga team to win back-to-back championships, naturally the number of Gladbach players that were called up increased considerably and thus Netzer felt more at home in the national team than in previous years. At the same time Overath’s form dropped and he also started to get injured more often. And thus it came to pass that Günter Netzer would become the player most associated with arguably the finest ever German national team, the 1972 European Championship winners. But for becoming one of the all-time greatest players in world football, Netzer would have needed to sustain that level for a bit longer than two years, which he didn’t. By 1973 the Netzer grandeur of 1971 and 1972 had vanished, which can be attributed to picking up nagging injuries and his joining of Real Madrid in the summer of 1973, which severely hampered his chances to remain at the center of Germany’s football national team. Also he was nearing 30 at that time and in the end it must be said that it tookNetzer just a little too long to take on the football world and when he finally reached the summit he was already on the fall again.

1963 considered_ [12/63] [Inside Forward]
1964 considered_ [07/64] [Inside Forward]
1964 considered_ [12/64] [Inside Forward]
1965 broad circle [07/65] [#6 Inside Forward]
1965 Internat. Cl. [12/65] [#3 Inside Forward]
1966 broad circle [07/66] [#6 Midfielder]
1966 broad circle [12/66] [#5 Midfielder]
1967 Internat. Cl. [07/67] [#4 Midfielder]
1967 Internat. Cl. [12/67] [#5 Midfielder]
1968 Internat. Cl. [07/68] [#3 Midfielder]
1968 Internat. Cl. [12/68] [#3 Midfielder]
1969 Internat. Cl. [07/69] [#3 Midfielder]
1969 Internat. Cl. [12/69] [#2 Midfielder]
1970 Internat. Cl. [07/70] [#4 Midfielder]
1970 World Class [12/70] [#3 Midfielder]
1971 World Class [07/71] [#1 Midfielder]
1971 Internat. Cl. [12/71] [#1 Midfielder]
1972 World Class [07/72] [#1 Midfielder]
1972 World Class [12/72] [#1 Midfielder]
1973 Internat. Cl. [07/73] [#1 Midfielder]
1973 played abroad [12/73]
1974 played abroad
1975 played abroad
1976 played abroad
1977 played abroad [07/77]
 

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Overall I think that I have a superior defence and my players are a great fit for Pat's attack stylistically. Riva's physicality and pace are well countered by Jaap Stam and Baresi is obviously a horrible opponent for every attacker, Eusebio included. Falcão and Netzer will love having Gento and Jairzinho at the end of their passes.

By the way, how good was Santamaria in Uruguay? I think his best came at Real Madrid, but maybe it's just my ignorance. @Pat_Mustard
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Overall I think that I have a superior defence and my players are a great fit for Pat's attack stylistically. Riva's physicality and pace are well countered by Jaap Stam and Baresi is obviously a horrible opponent for every attacker, Eusebio included. Falcão and Netzer will love having Gento and Jairzinho at the end of their passes.

By the way, how good was Santamaria in Uruguay? I think his best came at Real Madrid, but maybe it's just my ignorance. @Pat_Mustard
The footage just isn't there to make any definitive claims either way, but Santamaria only transferred to Real Madrid aged 28, so it seems likely that he was close to the finished article before he left Uruguay. We know that he won 5 league titles with Nacional, and captained the team, and we can somewhat contextualise the general strength of Uruguayan football by the performance of their national team during Santamaria's time at Nacional: 1 World Cup win, 1 semi-final appearance where they took the great Hungary team to extra-time, and a Copa America win in 1956. The Copa Libertadores was only established in 1960 when Santamaria had already made the move to Madrid, but between them Penarol and Nacional were represented in 8 of the first 10 finals, winning three of them, which further bolsters the case that he excelled in a strong league.
 

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Not a mischievous question, but out of curiosity what sort of role did Jairzinho play for Botafogo? The only reason I ask is the Brazil '70 side is often described as the 5 #10s. That said, he played as a left winger in 1966 so I'm not sure how much I buy that...
 

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Not a mischievous question, but out of curiosity what sort of role did Jairzinho play for Botafogo? The only reason I ask is the Brazil '70 side is often described as the 5 #10s. That said, he played as a left winger in 1966 so I'm not sure how much I buy that...
Yeah, from what I've seen he was still more of a right-sided forward after Garrincha retired. Played all over the front line. I'm waiting on a compilation of Botafogo's best games from the 50's to 70's, so will reply in detail when its downloaded. That 5 #10 is a bit of a myth though.
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Carlos/Masopust seems to be a Uber attacking wing, not complimentary and defensively not that strong.
The only opponent that looks likely to regularly threaten us down that wing is Jairzinho. As good as Jairzinho was, how much protection does Carlos really need, given that he excelled throughout a Real Madrid career that included cavalier lineups like this:



and this:



I was talking to Sjor about this in PM, but Masopust doesn't really live up to billing for me from the footage I've seen given his huge reputation. But the fact remains that he's one of 3(?) CMs to ever win the Ballon d'Or, he seemed to have had a very respectable workrate, and he was comfortable in the left channels. He's the most offensive-minded player in a midfield trio comprising a pure destroyer and a great defensive B2B. Covering that left wing against one player if Carlos happens to get caught upfield when possession is turned over doesn't seem like an unreasonable defensive remit.
 

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Carlos/Masopust seems to be a Uber attacking wing, not complimentary and defensively not that strong.
I don't disagree but I don't think it's a problem considering what they are facing.

Jairzinho a wing forward rather than a hugging the line winger and Djalma a defensive RB.

With Buchwald dropping back to form a back 3 in possession, I think the attacking Masopust/Carlos flank is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.

Edit: I actually disagree that they are not complimentary. Defensively not the strongest but still very complimentary IMO
 
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@Pat_Mustard , did you consider displaying both Laudrup and Eusebio as inside forwards. Eusebio as Edgar would say, had his best from the inside right position for Benfica. I could see Nestor in a lot of trouble if it was portrayed that way.
 

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Fantastic defensive unit @harms . And midfield. Happy to see Netzer finally being given some recognition in all time pool.

@Pat_Mustard also has compiled a very solid unit, but just can't see past harms here.
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
@Pat_Mustard , did you consider displaying both Laudrup and Eusebio as inside forwards. Eusebio as Edgar would say, had his best from the inside right position for Benfica. I could see Nestor in a lot of trouble if it was portrayed that way.
I did consider that, either setting it out as a narrow 4-3-3 or the infamous Christmas Tree formation. It might well have been the better option for this match for the reason you pointed out, but I really wanted to give Eusebio a free role, as I massively disagree with Edgar that he limited himself to the right channels or even favoured them. Inside-right was just a nominal position for him, as he roamed all over the place and could pick up the ball in pretty much any area of the pitch and be a threat.

@harms I'll remove this video if you think it's against the spirit of the draft being an international match, but I made this a few months back and I think it captures his roving, dynamic style pretty well:

 

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I did consider that, either setting it out as a narrow 4-3-3 or the infamous Christmas Tree formation. It might well have been the better option for this match for the reason you pointed out, but I really wanted to give Eusebio a free role, as I massively disagree with Edgar that he limited himself to the right channels or even favoured them. Inside-right was just a nominal position for him, as he roamed all over the place and could pick up the ball in pretty much any area of the pitch and be a threat.

@harms I'll remove this video if you think it's against the spirit of the draft being an international match, but I made this a few months back and I think it captures his roving, dynamic style pretty well:
Nah, keep it, of course. It's not like Eusebio performed differently, style or quality-wise, for Portugal.

I think that your front three is perfect as it is, I wouldn't like the 4-3-3 version of this quite as much. Riva is a great fit for those two as well — both dynamic and physical enough to compliment their game and bring something different to the table.
 

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I did consider that, either setting it out as a narrow 4-3-3 or the infamous Christmas Tree formation. It might well have been the better option for this match for the reason you pointed out, but I really wanted to give Eusebio a free role, as I massively disagree with Edgar that he limited himself to the right channels or even favoured them. Inside-right was just a nominal position for him, as he roamed all over the place and could pick up the ball in pretty much any area of the pitch and be a threat.

@harms I'll remove this video if you think it's against the spirit of the draft being an international match, but I made this a few months back and I think it captures his roving, dynamic style pretty well:

Your set up is spot on mate. Won't change a bit. You have attacking full backs and very solid core with a lot of space for your attackers to operate in. Laudrup being close to Eusebio is also a nice touch. It's just the opposition being more star studded in terms of quality rather than issue with your set up.

Also I think there was highlights on youtube of Eusebio against North Korea where he was roaming on both flanks and through the middle in a truly electric display.
 

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I did consider that, either setting it out as a narrow 4-3-3 or the infamous Christmas Tree formation. It might well have been the better option for this match for the reason you pointed out, but I really wanted to give Eusebio a free role, as I massively disagree with Edgar that he limited himself to the right channels or even favoured them. Inside-right was just a nominal position for him, as he roamed all over the place and could pick up the ball in pretty much any area of the pitch and be a threat.
Fair enough. While there is not much wrong in what you/harms/Enigma say on the subject, my thinking during the drafting period was that Carlos and Leandro would love to constantly link with an inside forward. Either ways I like the team a lot.

Do like harms' team better and that is where my vote goes mainly because your midfield looks a bit undercooked.

Bonhof instead of Buchwald and Souness as a DM in a Christmas tree would have been my hindsight changes.

-------------------------Riva------------------------
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----Masopust---Souness-----Bonhof-----
Carlos---Santamaria---Scirea--Leandro
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Nah, keep it, of course. It's not like Eusebio performed differently, style or quality-wise, for Portugal.

I think that your front three is perfect as it is, I wouldn't like the 4-3-3 version of this quite as much. Riva is a great fit for those two as well — both dynamic and physical enough to compliment their game and bring something different to the table.
Your set up is spot on mate. Won't change a bit. You have attacking full backs and very solid core with a lot of space for your attackers to operate in. Laudrup being close to Eusebio is also a nice touch. It's just the opposition being more star studded in terms of quality rather than issue with your set up.

Also I think there was highlights on youtube of Eusebio against North Korea where he was roaming on both flanks and through the middle in a truly electric display.
Fair enough. While there is not much wrong in what you/harms/Enigma say on the subject, my thinking during the drafting period was that Carlos and Leandro would love to constantly link with an inside forward. Either ways I like the team a lot.

Do like harms' team better and that is where my vote goes mainly because your midfield looks a bit undercooked.

Bonhof instead of Buchwald and Souness as a DM in a Christmas tree would have been my hindsight changes.

-------------------------Riva------------------------
-----------Laudrup---------Eusebio-----------
----Masopust---Souness-----Bonhof-----
Carlos---Santamaria---Scirea--Leandro
Cheers lads. I do agree that Harms has the better team here - not a single weak link individually and just an excellent, coherent all-around team. I love my front three, either as it is or as GSTQ sets it out. I find that Eusebio is oddly difficult to build around, and I'd struggle to improve on this while still keeping him as the centrepiece of the attack. I've paired him with Maradona and van Basten before in a proper GOAT-fest attack and while I think that would be devastating, I can see the argument that it's still going to be slightly less than the sum of their parts.

I was really hoping to face a two-man attack so I could play the planned 5-3-2:

Yashin
Leandro Santamaria Scirea Buchwald R. Carlos
Souness Masopust
Laudrup
Eusebio Riva
as it looks that bit more natural for Buchwald and really puts the wing backs in their element. I also disliked the Masopust pick the moment I made it. He just didn't impress me to the extent that I'd hoped for when I've watched him, and as I'd planned to go balls deep with the counter-attacking tactic I really should have went for a more robust, aggressive type. Lerby was my plan but Moby got there first. Bonhof would have been good, but I fecked off to Brazil for Leandro before I could get back to Germany. Even Simeone would have been great for me, but he didn't do much in Argentina before moving to Europe.
 

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I was really hoping to face a two-man attack so I could play the planned 5-3-2:

Yashin
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Souness Masopust
Laudrup
Eusebio Riva
My first thoughts as soon as I saw the lineups. Really unlucky to come up against Gento.
Jairzinho was still okay and if there was someone like Stoichkov instead of Gento, would have been a 50-50 game against that lineup.
 

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Good game @Pat_Mustard. As I said, absolutely loved your front three, they fit together so seamlessly!

And the Yashin steal was one of the highlights of the draft, thanks for that :lol:
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Good game @Pat_Mustard. As I said, absolutely loved your front three, they fit together so seamlessly!

And the Yashin steal was one of the highlights of the draft, thanks for that :lol:
Well played mate and cheers! I'll definitely try to put that front three together again, along with the wing backs ideally, and flesh out the supporting cast a bit better. Interested to see how you approach the reinforcement round as you really don't have any obvious weak links.

The Yashin skulduggery is easily one of my favourite drafting moments already, made even sweeter by Edgar proceeding to pick Alan Hansen as his GK :lol:
 

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Interested to see how you approach the reinforcement round as you really don't have any obvious weak links.
It's not going to be easy with the first 1 picks blocked :( I completely forgot about that — those, who prioritised attack, are in the winning position here.