I had the exact same thought process while reading through this page.Ah, that was a brainfart on my behalf. Makes sense now. I assumed it meant that the club you're buying from had to be within 100km.
I had the exact same thought process while reading through this page.Ah, that was a brainfart on my behalf. Makes sense now. I assumed it meant that the club you're buying from had to be within 100km.
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You seem to be a bit confused with your current situation.1 - The FFP relates to 2014 breach (From 2011/12 accounts) - The day after city published their 2013/14 accounts showing we had met FFP UEFA changed the FFP ruleset
2 - City have already been investigaed (and fined) by UEFA with this breach of FFP
3 - City agreed a deal with UEFA themselves to meet FFP and pay the fine for this breach
4 - The information comes from hacked email accounts
5 - Leaks to the press about a closed investigation - And then add to that the "hostile actors" of Qatar, Utd, LFC, Bayern being involved in the case
6 - The accusation that FFP has been set up by UEFA and the european elite to keep the elite at the top (For which there is a separate case)
Given all the above points I think that the FFP sanctions that the media are hoping for wont come, I also have a slight feeling it will result in FFP being changed or removed altogether.
I suspect that might get thrown out too. Sorry to say but there has been a shedload of negative reports about City, mainly from reporters and outlets who just dont want City because they dont bring the clicks, they want the cosy big fanbase clubs bringing in more clicks and income. So what we're getting is a distorted view of the situation..
The media wont tell these details in their clamour for hate clicks but some of the facts are:
1 - The FFP relates to 2014 breach (From 2011/12 accounts) - The day after city published their 2013/14 accounts showing we had met FFP UEFA changed the FFP ruleset
2 - City have already been investigaed (and fined) by UEFA with this breach of FFP
3 - City agreed a deal with UEFA themselves to meet FFP and pay the fine for this breach
4 - The information comes from hacked email accounts
5 - Leaks to the press about a closed investigation - And then add to that the "hostile actors" of Qatar, Utd, LFC, Bayern being involved in the case
6 - The accusation that FFP has been set up by UEFA and the european elite to keep the elite at the top (For which there is a separate case)
Given all the above points I think that the FFP sanctions that the media are hoping for wont come, I also have a slight feeling it will result in FFP being changed or removed altogether.
There's a good writeup from a decent City fan, a guy who looks into these things with an impartial eye, long long read though - https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
So, UEFA want to keep FFP. City want to be at the top table in European football. The most likely outcome (I think) is that City will be found to be compliant (Or get a hefty fine). Seems most likely to me, but tbh there's so much cloak and dagger stuff, so much money and deals involved that anything can happen I suppose
Bit astonishing claim considering the lengths the British press have gone to try and ignore all this on city's side.Been drinking the kool aid much?
ChristI suspect that might get thrown out too. Sorry to say but there has been a shedload of negative reports about City, mainly from reporters and outlets who just dont want City because they dont bring the clicks, they want the cosy big fanbase clubs bringing in more clicks and income. So what we're getting is a distorted view of the situation..
The media wont tell these details in their clamour for hate clicks but some of the facts are:
1 - The FFP relates to 2014 breach (From 2011/12 accounts) - The day after city published their 2013/14 accounts showing we had met FFP UEFA changed the FFP ruleset
2 - City have already been investigaed (and fined) by UEFA with this breach of FFP
3 - City agreed a deal with UEFA themselves to meet FFP and pay the fine for this breach
4 - The information comes from hacked email accounts
5 - Leaks to the press about a closed investigation - And then add to that the "hostile actors" of Qatar, Utd, LFC, Bayern being involved in the case
6 - The accusation that FFP has been set up by UEFA and the european elite to keep the elite at the top (For which there is a separate case)
Given all the above points I think that the FFP sanctions that the media are hoping for wont come, I also have a slight feeling it will result in FFP being changed or removed altogether.
There's a good writeup from a decent City fan, a guy who looks into these things with an impartial eye, long long read though - https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
So, UEFA want to keep FFP. City want to be at the top table in European football. The most likely outcome (I think) is that City will be found to be compliant (Or get a hefty fine). Seems most likely to me, but tbh there's so much cloak and dagger stuff, so much money and deals involved that anything can happen I suppose
So media is biased (even though they can't stop licking City's arse) but City fan sees things with impartial eye.I suspect that might get thrown out too. Sorry to say but there has been a shedload of negative reports about City, mainly from reporters and outlets who just dont want City because they dont bring the clicks, they want the cosy big fanbase clubs bringing in more clicks and income. So what we're getting is a distorted view of the situation..
The media wont tell these details in their clamour for hate clicks but some of the facts are:
1 - The FFP relates to 2014 breach (From 2011/12 accounts) - The day after city published their 2013/14 accounts showing we had met FFP UEFA changed the FFP ruleset
2 - City have already been investigaed (and fined) by UEFA with this breach of FFP
3 - City agreed a deal with UEFA themselves to meet FFP and pay the fine for this breach
4 - The information comes from hacked email accounts
5 - Leaks to the press about a closed investigation - And then add to that the "hostile actors" of Qatar, Utd, LFC, Bayern being involved in the case
6 - The accusation that FFP has been set up by UEFA and the european elite to keep the elite at the top (For which there is a separate case)
Given all the above points I think that the FFP sanctions that the media are hoping for wont come, I also have a slight feeling it will result in FFP being changed or removed altogether.
There's a good writeup from a decent City fan, a guy who looks into these things with an impartial eye, long long read though - https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/
So, UEFA want to keep FFP. City want to be at the top table in European football. The most likely outcome (I think) is that City will be found to be compliant (Or get a hefty fine). Seems most likely to me, but tbh there's so much cloak and dagger stuff, so much money and deals involved that anything can happen I suppose
Indeed. Any criticism has been very low key.Bit astonishing claim considering the lengths the British press have gone to try and ignore all this on city's side.
Ah. Cheers. Didn't read the link.The FFP investigation is separate.
I started to suspect it was a wind-up at that stageIndeed. Any criticism has been very low key.
I also find it amusing that the press don't like city because city don't generate clicks, yet they skimp on details in the clamour for hate clicks. Which one is it, do they generate clicks or don't they?
The wording on the link to the "impartial" writeup is amusing too.
I'm confused...I'm just saying the fine is so paltry it's the equivalent of one week's wages for one of their best playersThis post has a hauntingly beautiful melody but it misses the point. Aguero won't have to pay the fine out of his wages.
Unfortunately, a lot of people are too lazy to read past a headline and when they are informed of the relevant facts they are too obstinate to change their view.I'd love for city to get a hefty ban, but taken together, these are significant circumstances to take into account:
You've had a very easy ride from the press all things considered. It's only now starting to turn due to you denying the media darlings Liverpool success. You were all over the papers at the end of last season. You were more successful this season but the papers were dominated by Liverpool's near miss rather than what you achieved. Your cup runs were underwhelming which may have played a part in the lack of coverage but we'll never know.As for the bias, just look at any sports page in this country, it's full of headlines overwhemingly pandering to the biggest fanbases. It's human nature I know but there is a clear financial reason for it.
Convenient timing for a rule change. I means obviously completely coincidental, not a chance city and Fifa would be involved in anything unscrupulous..Just seen that one of the reasons that City avoided a ban is they’ve been punished under the new legislated which came into force a month ago. As opposed to being punished under the legislated that existed when their offending took place (as Chelsea’s did). What a farce. FIFA might have shot themselves in the foot as we have a decent chance at winning at CAS now I imagine whilst before this we had zero chance. Would imagine there would be a big legal battle if we got the ban overturned.
Yup, the cynic in me feels that their case was reviewed after the rule change on purpose. As I’ve said before, I 100% agree with us being banned as we broke the rules however if our case was delayed a few months then we wouldn’t have got a ban essentially. Seems very unfair to me personally. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with an appeal now as surely any appeal would be held under the new laws as it’s a new review of the case and not of the rules of when we committed the crime.Convenient timing for a rule change. I means obviously completely coincidental, not a chance city and Fifa would be involved in anything unscrupulous..
Well technically, Manchester City would still be a middling PL, or Championship club, if it wasn't for the oil money doping that created the football club it is today.It appears City have not breached any rules after December 2016, when the interpretation of the rule(s) where made clear, while Chelsea has breached the rules after December 2016.
But I guess it’s easier to yell “corruption” and “oil money” when a rival club doesn’t get punished for something they didn’t do.
We only broke the rules a couple of times isn’t really an argument. Plus it was more you were just found guilty twice.Unfortunately, a lot of people are too lazy to read past a headline and when they are informed of the relevant facts they are too obstinate to change their view.
Lol! Can see them in the transfer meetings...That 315K fine is going to make them think twice about doing that again.
More likely in sponsor meetingsLol! Can see them in the transfer meetings...
How much will he cost? £80m. Wait, sorry, it'll be £80.5m with the FFP payment
Well obviously it is when you are determining the severity of the punishment. It's like getting points on a license. City were caught speeding, and Chelsea were caught having crashed their car while drunk. Do you expect City to receive the same punishment as Chelsea when Chelsea committed far more offences than we did, committed offences after the clarification of the rules in 2016, had already been found guilty of doing this once before, and did not cooperate with the investigation as we did? You can't seriously sustain the argument that City merited the same punishment as Chelsea. So now that's clear, all that's left to discuss is how much less severe of a punishment was merited. FIFA decided it was a fine.We only broke the rules a couple of times isn’t really an argument. Plus it was more you were just found guilty twice.
I’m more of a tough love person, don’t do the crime unless you can do the time.Well obviously it is when you are determining the severity of the punishment. It's like getting points on a license. City were caught speeding, and Chelsea were caught having crashed their car while drunk. Do you expect City to receive the same punishment as Chelsea when Chelsea committed far more offences than we did, committed offences after the clarification of the rules in 2016, had already been found guilty of doing this once before, and did not cooperate with the investigation as we did? You can't seriously sustain the argument that City merited the same punishment as Chelsea. So now that's clear, all that's left to discuss is how much less severe of a punishment was merited. FIFA decided it was a fine.