Andrei Kanchelskis

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Anyone with MUTV should try to catch Andy Goldsteins interview with Kanchelskis. It's a good watch.
 

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Were the Mafia links legit? I remember reading about Man United club officials getting threats about letting him leave. Probably bollocks.
Fergie fell short of outright stating it in his autobio but he hinted at it heavily iirc
Told a story of kankans agent giving him £40k cash in a shoebox once and also getting quite threatening when they wanted to force his transfer away
 

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We've been spoiled for wingers and neither of these make the top.10. But Hill was beautiful to watch, miles better than Coppell (a plain winger).

In terms of Kanchelskis, I loved him - partly because I loved that team. I actually put him in my AT XI over Beckham (which I realise is a very personal choice and I'm in the minority).
You have to remember that Coppell had to eventually retire aged only 28 after a series injury curtailed his career just as he was reaching his prime. I thought Stevie was a fabulous little player not just for United but England too.
 

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My worry with james is that he’s incredibly fast but is he actually that good? His goal on Sunday as an example. The technique of the initial attempt. It was very lucky that he scored but the initial chance was on a plate. If that’s 0-0 or we are losing. He isn’t getting a follow up chance.

Anyway might be thinking too much into it. Seems a nice lad and seems to love being here so best of luck to him
 
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My worry with james is that he’s incredibly fast but is he actually that good? His goal on Sunday as an example. The technique of the initial attempt. It was very lucky that he scored but the initial chance was on a plate. If that’s 0-0 or we are losing. He isn’t getting a follow up chance.

Anyway might be thinking too much into it. Seems a nice lad and seems to love being here so best of luck to him
His technique isn’t top notch but it’s fine, and with that pace and alright technique, he’ll be a dangerous weapon for us, no doubt.
 
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You have to remember that Coppell had to eventually retire aged only 28 after a series injury curtailed his career just as he was reaching his prime. I thought Stevie was a fabulous little player not just for United but England too.
I do remember, watched him home and away.

Ok player, not my cup of char.
 

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Not a chance, I loved Kanchelskis but James is one of the fastest players I’ve ever seen, even on a pitch with Rashford he looks exceptionally fast.
Not a chance? Unless you still have very fresh memory from nearly 30 years ago, it’s really difficult to be so sure.
 

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If James can turn out to be half the player Kan Kan was he will be great.
 

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Fergie fell short of outright stating it in his autobio but he hinted at it heavily iirc
Told a story of kankans agent giving him £40k cash in a shoebox once and also getting quite threatening when they wanted to force his transfer away
Yes remember reading that approached Fergie in the OT carpark with the shoebox full of cash , was late at night when he was leaving for home , as I recall he threw it on the boardroom table next morning after calling a meeting.
 

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Feck me how I loved Kanchelskis. Even have a kit with his name from back in the days.
Lucky bugger.

I threw a wobbler outside OT because my old man wouldn’t let me have ‘Kanchelskis 14’ at 75p a letter and 1,50 a number.
 

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From his autobiography

' Whenever a foreign footballer comes into the dressing room, he will be taught how to swear. They taught me the correct way to address the manager of Man Utd.

Almost the first time I came across SAF in the corridors, he said to me "All right Andrei, how's it going?"

I smiled at him and replied "feck off, Scottish bastard". SAF stopped dead in his tracks and then began to smile as he heard laughter echoing down the corridor, while I stood there bewildered'
 

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From his autobiography

' Whenever a foreign footballer comes into the dressing room, he will be taught how to swear. They taught me the correct way to address the manager of Man Utd.

Almost the first time I came across SAF in the corridors, he said to me "All right Andrei, how's it going?"

I smiled at him and replied "feck off, Scottish bastard". SAF stopped dead in his tracks and then began to smile as he heard laughter echoing down the corridor, while I stood there bewildered'
Amazing :lol:
 

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From his autobiography

' Whenever a foreign footballer comes into the dressing room, he will be taught how to swear. They taught me the correct way to address the manager of Man Utd.

Almost the first time I came across SAF in the corridors, he said to me "All right Andrei, how's it going?"

I smiled at him and replied "feck off, Scottish bastard". SAF stopped dead in his tracks and then began to smile as he heard laughter echoing down the corridor, while I stood there bewildered'
:lol:
 

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Were the Mafia links legit? I remember reading about Man United club officials getting threats about letting him leave. Probably bollocks.
Most probably. The organized crime was incredibly powerful in Russia in the 90's and had its hands in every profitable business.
 

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Lucky bugger.

I threw a wobbler outside OT because my old man wouldn’t let me have ‘Kanchelskis 14’ at 75p a letter and 1,50 a number.
I bet you were over the moon when he bought you a David May's shirt :lol:
 

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I remember seeing AK and Peter the Great in their first season together. Pretty sure it was at Charlton. Peter collected the ball in his six yard box, took two steps and threw the ball over the half-way line. AK took off, left two /three defenders standing latched on to it and shot. He didn't score but it scraped the bar with keeper nowhere. I'd never seen anything like it
 

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Steven Coppell was very similar but maybe James is a little quicker. Coppell was class and clever too. You can’t defend against pace without fouling.
 

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We've been spoiled for wingers and neither of these make the top.10. But Hill was beautiful to watch, miles better than Coppell (a plain winger).

In terms of Kanchelskis, I loved him - partly because I loved that team. I actually put him in my AT XI over Beckham (which I realise is a very personal choice and I'm in the minority).

Not sure about miles better. He’d be slated foe not tracking back now. Buchan once gave him a slap for not doing so. Certainly had more flair and scored more goals than Coppell but was equally infuriating when stuff didn’t come off and didn’t put the graft in. Coppell was a players player. Still, we all loved Hill, especially after the sf vs Derby.

Don’t see much Coppell in young Dan, though. Would be great if he was anywhere near as good as Kanchelskis.
 

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People talking about value signings on another thread should remember him as well. What was it, half a million? Incredible find.

I was rather devastated when we sold him in 1995, didn't understand why it was happening. And it was one departing player Fergie didn't think he had a replacement for, which is why he tried for Anderton and a year later got Poborsky.
 

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People talking about value signings on another thread should remember him as well. What was it, half a million? Incredible find.

I was rather devastated when we sold him in 1995, didn't understand why it was happening. And it was one departing player Fergie didn't think he had a replacement for, which is why he tried for Anderton and a year later got Poborsky.

Yep. Was a bit put out too. Was that the same year Ince and Hughes left? Thought Fergie was losing his marbles.
 

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Yep. Was a bit put out too. Was that the same year Ince and Hughes left? Thought Fergie was losing his marbles.
It was. Losing the first two weren't that much of a blow, but Kanchelskis just had his best season. And he was going to bloody Everton, not Barcelona.
 
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Not sure about miles better. It's all relative? :) I think it comes from my preference of flair :) over discipline :boring: He’d be slated foe not tracking back now. I like my wingers staying up - keeps oppo FBs honest Buchan once gave him a slap for not doing so (oh how I LOVEd Buchan! in my AT top.3 United CHs). Scored more goals than Coppell but was equally infuriating when stuff didn’t come off and didn’t put the graft in. Coppell was a players player. Still, we all loved Hill (yip) especially after the sf. Derby :drool:

Don’t see much Coppell in young Dan, though. Would be great if he was anywhere near as good as Kanchelskis.
And Coppell was a Scouser.....
 

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Anyone else look at Dan James and think Andrei Kanchelskis? The floppy hair, the little smile. James is smaller, mind, but since his first game for United I've just been thinking 'Kanchelskis.'



If James turns out to be half as good as Kanchelskis was what a player he'll be. That summer we lost Kanchelskis, Ince and Hughes, I think Andrei was the one I was most upset by. Especially as he'd been our top scorer in 1994/95.

The counter attacks of that first great Ferguson team were really something and Kanchelskis (and Giggs) were pretty much at the heart of every one. Seeing us counter against Chelsea with such speed and deadliness felt like rolling the clock right back.
I would absolutely love James to become as good as Andrei. Loved him as United player. .
 

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Kanchelskis had piss poor posture and helped put Putin into power. Without Paul Parker he'd be pants.
 

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From his autobiography

' Whenever a foreign footballer comes into the dressing room, he will be taught how to swear. They taught me the correct way to address the manager of Man Utd.

Almost the first time I came across SAF in the corridors, he said to me "All right Andrei, how's it going?"

I smiled at him and replied "feck off, Scottish bastard". SAF stopped dead in his tracks and then began to smile as he heard laughter echoing down the corridor, while I stood there bewildered'
I had read this before but it is still one of my favourite United related stories.
 

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Great old style right winger with a ferocious shot.Loved watching him.He had terrific pace too, hope James is as good .
 

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Kanchelskis had piss poor posture and helped put Putin into power. Without Paul Parker he'd be pants.
I know this is probably a joke post, but his best seasons actually came without Paul Parker (94-95 and with Everton 95-96.)

His posture was horrendous, though.
 

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Steven Coppell was very similar but maybe James is a little quicker. Coppell was class and clever too. You can’t defend against pace without fouling.
Having Stevie Coppell on one wing and Gordon Hill on the other was a joy to watch and why I always want United to have wingers and play with width
 

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People talking about value signings on another thread should remember him as well. What was it, half a million? Incredible find.

I was rather devastated when we sold him in 1995, didn't understand why it was happening. And it was one departing player Fergie didn't think he had a replacement for, which is why he tried for Anderton and a year later got Poborsky.
rumours were he wanted to leave as had debts to pay and kept making up mystery ailments to not play
 

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rumours were he wanted to leave as had debts to pay and kept making up mystery ailments to not play
Oh yes, I've read about it since then as well, but in 1995 I had no idea. And Internet was in its infancy as well. I was staggered when the deal was reported.