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What's next?

The bad guys will just gets these dogs, then the only way to stop them if for everyone to get Great Danes, a Wolf or even one of those massive Newfoundland dogs.

Then what happens when everyone has those, what do you? Well of course you'll need to get yourself a Mountain Lion.

... And then when everyone has Mountain Lions? Well you get a Tiger.

And when everyone has Tigers you will naturally need to get yourself a crocodile, or a Grizzly Bear if you're lucky.

.... And once everyone is roaming the street with their own bears or crocodiles you'll need your own Elephant, just too be safe.

But where will it end? Eventually you'll need to buy your own midget to carry around a gun... And then they'll need to get a dog... And the cycle continues.
 

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Guardian said:
Donald Trump walked back a previous prediction that the United States could institute universal background checks for gun buyers, as the country’s most recent major mass shootings recede in the public consciousness.

On Sunday, Trump was asked whether he would support universal background checks “right now.”

He replied:

"I’m not saying anything. I’m saying Congress is going to be reporting back to me with ideas. And they’ll come in from Democrats and Republicans. And I’ll look at it very strongly. But just remember, we already have a lot of background checks. OK? Thank you."
 

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Not gonna lie that sounds like a badass dog. Just imagine a bunch if rottweilers focused on one dude.
I've seen them in training - they are incredible.

It's hard enough to shoot a larger moving target, let alone a dog that is flying towards you.
 

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Because people being shot isnt enough. Let's add shooting dogs.

Focus on preventing people from shooting places up not on defending yourself after they start shooting. Fecking half-wits.
 

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Nice stereotyping. You tell me why Londoners are infatuated by knifes
Cheers. I'm doing my best.
I just feel like otherwise non-violent Americans are more likely to use language which to an extent glorifies violence a little bit. It's subtle for sure, but I can't help but think it's deeply ingrained in the culture.
 

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I don't think that we Brits should flatter ourselves - Britain would have a real problem with gun violence if the weapons were widely available, IMO.
 

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Cheers. I'm doing my best.
I just feel like otherwise non-violent Americans are more likely to use language which to an extent glorifies violence a little bit. It's subtle for sure, but I can't help but think it's deeply ingrained in the culture.
I am appreciating a well trained Rottweiler. Why does it translate to loving violence? I find it pretty dumb when Americans stereotype europeans so don't like it the other way round either
 

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I don't think that we Brits should flatter ourselves - Britain would have a real problem with gun violence if the weapons were widely available, IMO.
I agree, Steve. People everywhere act violently. It's not about the weaponry, although controlling and limiting access has its benefits. The biggest factor imo is economic status.
 

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I am appreciating a well trained Rottweiler. Why does it translate to loving violence? I find it pretty dumb when Americans stereotype europeans so don't like it the other way round either
That's not quite what you're doing. You basically created a fantasy where a bunch of rottweilers attacked a person.
Not gonna lie that sounds like a badass dog. Just imagine a bunch if rottweilers focused on one dude.
For you that might be appreciating a well-trained dog, but surely that could've been articulated without invoking imagery of someone being attacked by them? The language above is way more violent in nature than saying "Wow, it's incredible what you can teach dogs to do". It's a subtle thing but here we are.
 

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I agree, Steve. People everywhere act violently. It's not about the weaponry, although controlling and limiting access has its benefits. The biggest factor imo is economic status.
Mate, I had a meeting today with a rep from my local housing association. She told me that in my community (very small and seemingly trouble-free), three new women's refuges are being built. God help us if guns were available to the scum responsible for domestic violence. And, of course, that's just one aspect of societal violence.
 

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That's not quite what you're doing. You basically created a fantasy where a bunch of rottweilers attacked a person.

For you that might be appreciating a well-trained dog, but surely that could've been articulated without invoking imagery of someone being attacked by them? The language above is way more violent in nature than saying "Wow, it's incredible what you can teach dogs to do". It's a subtle thing but here we are.

Even if you're right, are you suggesting no one in England would make a similar comment? Plenty of people around with 3 pitbulls who completely mishandle them to have "a wild guard dog bruv". Doesn't mean I stereotype and question why English people are so violent

People are violent everywhere

A Rottie wouldn't be fast enough, they'd use German Shepherds.
Rottweilers just look more majestic to me.
 

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Even if you're right, are you suggesting no one in England would make a similar comment? Plenty of people around with 3 pitbulls who completely mishandle them to have "a wild guard dog bruv". Doesn't mean I stereotype and question why English people are so violent

People are violent everywhere
I'm pretty sure I didn't mention England at all. Although given their various lock-out laws etc. they probably have a bit of it too.
 

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Mate, I had a meeting today with a rep from my local housing association. She told me that in my community (very small and seemingly trouble-free), three new women's refuges are being built. God help us if guns were available to the scum responsible for domestic violence. And, of course, that's just one aspect of societal violence.
Typically those men do have more access to guns, even in the UK (assuming that your community is a bit more rural than urban). In that regard, police need to be able to confiscate guns if there is any indication of potential domestic violence or even a smidgen of history (complaints, police call outs, etc).
 

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All people are capable of bring equally violent Id say, seeing as we're all the same species. That's why we ban guns. Not because guns kill people, but because why the feck would you make it easier for people to kill people with guns. It's their sole fecking purpose.
 

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All people are capable of bring equally violent Id say, seeing as we're all the same species. That's why we ban guns. Not because guns kill people, but because why the feck would you make it easier for people to kill people with guns. It's their sole fecking purpose.
Capable, yes, inclined, no. Other factors lead people who would otherwise not engage in violence to act out. I think the experience in the UK shows us that simply banning some forms of weaponry only reduces the carnage slightly. Without tackling the other aspects that lead people down the path to violence we'll continue to see the same outcomes in some demographics. People need safe spaces and opportunities to improve their futures.