My understanding is chlorine wash is accepted in the EU for vegetables... The main reason it's not accepted for chicken is that it's so effective the EU standards people were worried it might allow abattoirs standards to slip in other areasChlorinated chicken isn't necessarily bad though, is it?
It's not so much the chlorination of the chicken as the potential reduction in other regulatory safeguards during the manufacturing process. There are concerns that this means the end product is more likely to cause illness. There's some data to back this up. For instance the WHO reckons that US chicken is infected with Salmonella at 4- 5x the rate of that produced in the EU.Chlorinated chicken isn't necessarily bad though, is it?
My understanding is that the chicken is perfectly fine to eat, just the practice of chlorinating is indicative of poor animal welfare practices in the rearing of the chickens.My understanding is chlorine wash is accepted in the EU for vegetables... The main reason it's not accepted for chicken is that it's so effective the EU standards people were worried it might allow abattoirs standards to slip in other areas
That said I've never researched in any great detail but I think it's an issue that's not going to be insurmountable in the grand scheme of things (I wonder how many UK tourists refuse to eat chicken if they visit the USA?)
If chicken on the shelf is cheaper then people will buy itJust because its excepted, doesnt mean you “have” to buy it.
“Yeah sure absolutely we will allow chlorinated chicken if anyone wants it”
Nobody wants it, so its a non issue.
You say that but if people are skint on benefits or a student or whatever and it's cheaper, they'll buy it.Just because its excepted, doesnt mean you “have” to buy it.
“Yeah sure absolutely we will allow chlorinated chicken if anyone wants it”
Nobody wants it, so its a non issue.
Its as simple as that everyone, if you ignore everything else that factors in to the equation of course.You say that but if people are skint on benefits or a student or whatever and it's cheaper, they'll buy it.
Evidence?Yes, published off and on for the last forty years or so, based on Jeremy's own actions and utterances during this period, his Marxist stance also highlighted in the Sun, the Daily Mirror, the Express, etc.
Please can we stop saying Jeremy's Marxism is a figment of the presses imagination, both he and John McDonnell are life long Marxists and as far as I can see both are proud of it.
He set out the policy in his ‘economic manifesto’ in 2015, called The Economy in 2020.This never made the manifesto though, did it? It was just an idea that was floated around. It's certainly unconventional but how radical it is is up for debate. Also, hasn't the ECB embarked on their own policy of QE? See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30933515 and https://www.neweurope.eu/article/ecb-prepares-for-a-second-wave-of-quantitative-easing/
Yup that part in bold is exactly what I meant earlierPeople shitting their pants over chlorinated chicken just about sums the remain campaign up. Laughable. Nobody knew about chlorinated chicken until somebody said it after brexit
Half the whinge bag toffs have took 4 kids to Disneyland at some point and guess what, the chicken was normal
There’s better hills to die on
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The man who wasn't elected by the people denies Parliament can stop him from driving the country off a cliff.
No it isn’t principle. feck me talk about grasping at shite. Nobody cares about how meat is sorted in UK and nobody was using it as an excuse before.I would say it is more the principle. Sure enough we are going to get bullied by the U.S into accepting their demands in order to get any sort of trade deal. Any other major country will likely do the same as they know that we are in a shite position to negotiate.
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The man who wasn't elected by the people denies Parliament can stop him from driving the country off a cliff.
If the PM resigns or is replaced by his or her party, there should be a general election rather than a membership election to determine the next Prime Minister. It is absurd that 90k people get to choose the Prime Minister without facing the public. In all likelihood, the Tories would win because Labour are astonishingly incompetent, but the PM shouldn't be chosen by .2% of the British electorate.What do you think should happen matt?
That's a strong statement. Makes you wonder why US farmers would be so keen on the UK market: Will this still be true under more relaxed health and safety regulations?There is no way, even accounting for price by volume that it will be cheaper by any considerable margin to kill a chicken in the states, treat it, freeze it, sail it over, and distribute it in the uk cheaper than moy park can do it.
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This is so much bull, my cousin works in imports and exports he told me that it will be fine as the goods are cleared before leaving - "do you think a business would fill a container full of oranges, that could sit on a road and go to waste?" He did also say that we've been getting mugged off years.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/uk-food-drug-fuel-shortage-risk-brexit_n_5d589a5fe4b0eb875f24d5f9
Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.
Project Fear 2.0 the leavers will say !!https://www.huffpost.com/entry/uk-food-drug-fuel-shortage-risk-brexit_n_5d589a5fe4b0eb875f24d5f9
Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.
It is symbolic of the sorts of trade offs that will be required in any trade negotiation. There are things that some people will care a lot about - NHS, GM food, visas for Indian workers etc.No it isn’t principle. feck me talk about grasping at shite. Nobody cares about how meat is sorted in UK and nobody was using it as an excuse before.
And if they weren’t, they should’ve been.
Its not project fear its just worry and selling story's.Project Fear 2.0 the leavers will say !!
Why can't the UK simply leave tomorrow with no deal, Winston Johnson has told us all will be well let's take him at his word and if it all goes to pot well "Its Democracy we voted to leave".
The point is the UK will have to have the same regulations and same standards as the EU to avoid a hard border between them, which has been stated since day one, nothing new. If the Uk want chlorinated chicken or anything else that doesn't meet the standards or regulations of the EU no-one's stopping the UK from importing it but then we know what the consequences of that are.No it isn’t principle. feck me talk about grasping at shite. Nobody cares about how meat is sorted in UK and nobody was using it as an excuse before.
And if they weren’t, they should’ve been.
Technically I believe they can provided the EU agree itWhy doesn't the UK leave now? No-one's stopping them. Please get on with it.
Really, he's an idiot.I'd say the reverse, being PM is the thing he cares about. He was as much Remain as Brexit at one time, but plumped for Brexit as he thought it would get him the backing of the Tory membership against other contenders who were likely to be Remain. Then when May won and pledged Brexit herself he went hard Brexit for the same reason, and to be fair it's worked, he's got what he wanted.
edit: what Pex said.
If there's no deal I don't see why the EU have to agree to it. The Uk will break the GFA, renegue on its obligations and put its international status down the drain .Technically I believe they can provided the EU agree it
That's what I want I still dont know what will be needed to live and work in Germany and am basically sick, tired and fed up of the whole thing.Pity the poor students who end up with Minford as their professor.
Why doesn't the UK leave now? No-one's stopping them. Please get on with it.
We remain a part of the EU untill the agreed exit date unless both parties agree otherwiseIf there's no deal I don't see why the EU have to agree to it. The Uk will break the GFA, renegue on its obligations and put its international status down the drain .
Yes but if the UK break the GFA which is also an international treaty presumably they're not worried.We remain a part of the EU untill the agreed exit date unless both parties agree otherwise
Anything unilateral would be a breech of international treaties and as such illegal / actionable ) sanctionable