Conte is a master tactician. In his two seasons he was with Chelsea, he won the league and the FA cup. Also, the Italian league is a little on the slower end and it might just be the right place for Sanchez and Lukaku to shine.Is Conte trying to deliberately sabotage Inter?
Either that or he's setting himself up for the United job by helping the club clear out the most expensive deadwood before he comes in. 4D chess.
In past 2 season, he scored grand total 3 goals for us in the league (out of 32 games), with average rating of under 4 or 5 majority of time, and he is by far the highest paid player in the league too.Yep, people saying it's great that we will be forced to play the youth is all well and good, but when the reality bites it could be a very different story, at best only one of Greenwood, Gomes, Chong, James, and Garner (the buzz names) are going to be good enough long term, and that's before we start on whether Mctominay, Lingard, and Fred, are actually good enough to start games week in week out.
We just seem to have left ourselves so short this season, and to then get rid of Sanchez for no good reason, seems madness in the extreme.
9 - Martial, greenwood. 11 - Rashford, Chong.I really can't understand the reasoning behind this sale.
Martial is our number 9 now so will be upfront a lot more. Rashford could play on the left but as we dont have cover up front, he'll be up there a lot more too.
That then leaves us with only Sanchez on the left?! James could play on the left but then.....we are short on the right.
I know he's had a bad season and a half but with the whole mood at the club changing/our style of football improving, this could be the year he finally steps up. We know what a difference he can make when he's in form from his time at Arsenal, so isn't it worth taking a risk. Even if it's just until January
Err the two flops, Lukaku and Sanchez will be sitting on the bench majority of time anyway.Him and Lukaku. Two players who needed upgrading and what do we do? Let them go with no replacements. Nice.
Lukaku was a consistent scorer with us. He might have not fitted ole's game but he was no flop. Sanchez might have been a surplus if we bothered replacing the former which we didn't. Instead we have no cover for Rashford as Martial is needed as LW and if Sanchez leaves we will have no cover for LW as James is needed as RWErr the two flops, Lukaku and Sanchez will be sitting on the bench majority of time anyway.
Let' just say Martial and Rashford will be their upgrade, and Greenwood and James would be their replacement as backup role.
Yes we are a bit thin on the right, but that's another issue.
He really isn't a good option. He scored 8 goals in 35 matches last season 3 of which against tranmere. The guy is shotIf Sanchez goes, anyone up for Llorente on a free? He won't cost much on wages, is willing to sit on the bench and is good option for us to come off the bench.
He will be far from our first choice striker though. And 8 goals is still more than what Sanchez has produced for us so far.He really isn't a good option. He scored 8 goals in 35 matches last season 3 of which against tranmere. The guy is shot
Sanchez suffered more injuries, he played As LW in a shittier side under a rookie manager. Do we really need to get rid of Sanchez to afford Llorente? Also should United be reduced to dig deep inside Spurs rubbish bin?He will be far from our first choice striker though. And 8 goals is still more than what Sanchez has produced for us so far.
You do notice that you can only play a player in 1 role per game? Also the EPL and Europa league is extremely demanding physically wise. Martial, Rashford and Co will need to be rested and will pick injuriesErr the two flops, Lukaku and Sanchez will be sitting on the bench majority of time anyway.
Let' just say Martial and Rashford will be their upgrade, and Greenwood and James would be their replacement as backup role. We also have young and talented Gomes and Chong who can play Sanchez role in some cup competitions.
CF
1. Martial (our most talented forward, expect 15 goals, but inconsistent)
2. Rashford (our best forward, expect 15 goals, but inconsistent)
3. Greenwood (potentially our 1st choice in future)
4. Lukaku (fat and flop and gone)
LWF
1. Rashford (our best forward, expect 15 goals, but inconsistent)
2. Martial (our most talented forward, expect 15 goals, but inconsistent)
3. James (1st choice impact sub)
4. Sanchez (huge huge flop)/Gomes (massive talent)/Chong (crazy haircut)
RWF
1. Lingard (not talent but good at pressing)
2. Mata (slow but good at setting up)
3. James (1st choice impact sub)
4. Greenwood (potentially our 1st choice in future)
Yes we are a bit thin on the right, but that's another issue we need to address next summer.
Spurs had to get Llorente off the wage bill. Of course we can afford both but why would we need 350k sitting on the bench and not come on before the 34 yr old Llorente when we need a goal or change in tactics? Even under Jose, Sanchez was dire, so nothing to do with rookie manager or not. Sanchez will also be asking to start games as much as he can, while Llorente will be perfectly happy with a bench role.Sanchez suffered more injuries, he played As LW in a shittier side under a rookie manager. Do we really need to get rid of Sanchez to afford Llorente? Also should United be reduced to dig deep inside Spurs rubbish bin?
Spurs got rid of Llorente because he was basically shit and he can't run anymore. Also I wouldn't use of course in terms of transfers especially considering what happened in the past two summer transfer windows.Spurs had to get Llorente off the wage bill. Of course we can afford both but why would we need 350k sitting on the bench and not come on before the 34 yr old Llorente when we need a goal or change in tactics? Even under Jose, Sanchez was dire, so nothing to do with rookie manager or not. Sanchez will also be asking to start games as much as he can, while Llorente will be perfectly happy with a bench role.
As said he's been very unlucky with injuries and had to endure 2 managerial changes. All Mourinho's last signings had struggled as well (Fred and Dalot). If the club wants him out then fair enough. However we should have brought adequate replacements first. We've been losing players (Fellaini, Herrera, Lukaku and now Sanchez) without even bothering replacing them. We can't keep on going through that route unless of course we're happy with a 6th place.Proven quality means nothing when he's not that for United. He's no longer proven quality at this point. It's not just injuries and he's not the only one who had to endure two managerial changes. It doesn't matter if we use a curve on our players, he still comes out at the bottom of the class.
Again, everybody had to endure those 2 managerial changes. They still managed to perform better than he did. He was the worst of the lot. Not sure why you're trying to make it seem as it if it was something only he suffered from. Those other players don't have his wages or age.As said he's been very unlucky with injuries and had to endure 2 managerial changes. All Mourinho's last signings had struggled as well (Fred and Dalot). If the club wants him out then fair enough. However we should have brought adequate replacements first. We've been losing players (Fellaini, Herrera, Lukaku and now Sanchez) without even bothering replacing them. We can't keep on going through that route unless of course we're happy with a 6th place.
Sanchez was a relatively new signing who suffered injuries and 2 managerial changes. Its all of it, not just 1. As said, all Mou's latest signings had struggled to adapt and they didn't passed from all that ordeal either.Again, everybody had to endure those 2 managerial changes. They still managed to perform better than he did. He was the worst of the lot. Not sure why you're trying to make it seem as it if it was something only he suffered from. Those other players don't have his wages or age.
And actually, I'm perfectly fine losing players. I was fine losing Jones on a free because then we could just promote Tuanzebe and save money on wages. I would have been fine losing Young if we knew we would get AWB, and could just use Dalot, Laird, etc... as emergency replacements. In the case of Sanchez, he's making so much that losing him on loan does help us because it frees up wages and we're not really losing anything in production.
It's not like I'm not understanding your point. I just don't think it really should apply to all players. In the case of Sanchez, his wages and his production is the perfect marriage for me to want him out. We have Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Mata, James, Lingard, Gomes, and Chong. We have even used Dalot at RW before. I think that's enough to cover for injuries. And I don't need the youngsters to perform worldies. They just need to produce at Sanchez's crap level which isn't hard.
Do you think there will be buyers left if he keeps performing the way he does?Sanchez was a relatively new signing who suffered injuries and 2 managerial changes. Its all of it, not just 1. As said, all Mou's latest signings had struggled to adapt and they didn't passed from all that ordeal either.
Also why is there an urgency to free up wage budgets considering we're not buying anyone up until at least January (probably more)? I mean its not as if we're buying a new player at this point. Also shouldn't we first see if these kids are good enough to actually play in the EPL before lighten up a forward line which is already ridiculously light?
Id say the wisest decision is to keep Sanchez up until January. In January we would have a clear picture whether there's still some gas left in Sanchez tank, if the kids are good enough or we need to buy a new player. We can't keep on losing more midfielders/forwards and not replacing them.
Why not just hold on until January and see what’s available? I’d rather us pick up a 20 year old from the championship than panic sign a striker that won’t fit us.Sanchez out Llorente in.
If we wanted him out then we should have added some midfielders and forwards firstDo you think there will be buyers left if he keeps performing the way he does?
Doesn't answer my question. He is anyways not contributing. Do you ever miss his presence in the squad?If we wanted him out then we should have added some midfielders and forwards first
First choice:You do notice that you can only play a player in 1 role per game? Also the EPL and Europa league is extremely demanding physically wise. Martial, Rashford and Co will need to be rested and will pick injuries
Our situation dictates that players needed to go first before new ones can come, this summer we have rid ourselves of Herrera, Lukaku and Valencia so we have three players to replace.If we wanted him out then we should have added some midfielders and forwards first
It is cause we can't keep lightening an already ridiculously light forward line. Sometimes I feel we actually prefer money to be lined in the Glazers pockets then on the squadDoesn't answer my question. He is anyways not contributing. Do you ever miss his presence in the squad?
What circumstances exactly? I thought we were the richest club in the world. Also I beg to differ on that strategy as well. By the looks of it we're allowing most players to leave without actually replacing them instead. For example Lukaku, Herrera and Fellaini hasn't been replaced. Sanchez won't be replaced either.Our situation dictates that players needed to go first before new ones can come, this summer we have rid ourselves of Herrera, Lukaku and Valencia so we have three players to replace.
We can't get new ones in and run the risk of having their contracts, plus the bloated Sanchez deal on our books. It is the smart and correct play in this instance.
Squad places? We can only register 25 players + U21 players.What circumstances exactly? I thought we were the richest club in the world. Also I beg to differ on that strategy as well. By the looks of it we're allowing most players to leave without actually replacing them. Lukaku, Herrera and Fellaini hasn't been replaced. Sanchez won't be replaced either. There's a stench of AC Milan's decline surrounding our club at the moment. Or if you want to feel more homey, a Tampa Bay Buccaneer's stench
Clueless. His sheer presence at the club has caused issues. That wage he gets is ridiculous and has rocked the boat. He simply has to go. We can make do till January.This is just insane imo, he barely played for Ole, and everyone was crap under Jose.
If Dybala was his replacement then fair enough, but we're literally saying lets put all our eggs in the untested kid basket, and for no other reason than to save the club a few million in wages.
then get rid of 1-2 CBs. Surely we don't need 7 of them. We're very light upfront and we need all hands on deck.Squad places? We can only register 25 players + U21 players.
what makes you think we'll bring a replacement on January? What makes you think we'll be bringing a replacement at all. This is our second underwhelming summer transfer window. Players are simply leaving and not being replaced.Clueless. His sheer presence at the club has caused issues. That wage he gets is ridiculous and has rocked the boat. He simply has to go. We can make do till January.
Yes but there should be player who is willing to sign them. We can't just offload them.then get rid of 1-2 CBs. Surely we don't need 7 of them. We're very light upfront and we need all hands on deck.
Yep, absolutely this. Anyone advocating for Alexis to stay at this point is probably a hoarder.Clueless. His sheer presence at the club has caused issues. That wage he gets is ridiculous and has rocked the boat. He simply has to go. We can make do till January.
Agree with this. The loan option we should only accept if it comes with an obligatory purchase at the end of the season. Getting rid of our deadwood should be our main focus till September 2 and in the January window.Sanchez is a bad fit for Utd. At Arsenal, there is alot of movement, passing and running into space. At United, we are a counter attacking team that relies on our upfront pace. Sanchez is not a poor footballer. He is just a poor fit to United. I won't be surprised that he excel in Italian league with Inter. If Inter come asking, I would sell him. I think we can cope until January transfer window with Chong and Gomes.
Lukaku will give us 15-20 goals a season, but he is getting worst. Yes we need a replacement, but he is behind Rashford and Martial at the moment, and we have huge young talented Greenwood who is breaking through. Its matter of do we trust Greenwood this season and for future? or do we just go out and buy big instead, while giving up on developing Greenwood with more game time (ie Sancho at City, young Pogba at United, young De Bruyne and Salah at Chelsea)Lukaku was a consistent scorer with us. He might have not fitted ole's game but he was no flop. Sanchez might have been a surplus if we bothered replacing the former which we didn't. Instead we have no cover for Rashford as Martial is needed as LW and if Sanchez leaves we will have no cover for LW as James is needed as RW
That is a weird thing to say. Just because both Lukaku and Sanchez didn't work here doesn't mean they won't work in Italy.Is Conte trying to deliberately sabotage Inter?
Either that or he's setting himself up for the United job by helping the club clear out the most expensive deadwood before he comes in. 4D chess.
