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C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's a monumental risk, we need CL next season or the consequences will be bad.

Ole is an intelligent man, so I just can't believe he is happy with the depth he has in midfield in and attack, so I don't think this would be his call, it was only 2 weeks ago we after Dybala and Mandzuckic to replace Lukaku, now we're supposed to believe that having all these kids around the squad was the plan all along, it's nonsense.

For whatever reason it just seems the club are pushing some sort of cost cutting, and with little regard for the consequences.
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This is again short term and the problems we have been having for the past few years.
We need to think more long term than next season where we are now
If we don't make UCL season but Greenwood, Gomes and James and Wan Bissaka are closer to being top players thats a win. If the first 3 can fully establish themselves in the first team even better. We can then focus on other areas Jan and next summer

Fully agree Ole isn't happy, but I 100% think he is intelligent enough to know it wasn't a job for 1 summer
 

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He makes our whole team look worse, particularly our other attackers when he is on the pitch, so by my logic, losing him would be like gaining another attacker, given that it would mean a lot more minutes for the likes of Greenwood, James, Gomes, etc.

Plus, he absolutely destroys our wage structure and it costs an absolute fortune just to have him present at the club. Sell him - must be obligation to buy though if it is a loan. None of this option to buy bs, whats the point then?
 

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Cassidy said:
This is again short term and the problems we have been having for the past few years.
We need to think more long term than next season where we are now
If we don't make UCL season but Greenwood, Gomes and James and Wan Bissaka are closer to being top players thats a win. If the first 3 can fully establish themselves in the first team even better. We can then focus on other areas Jan and next summer

Fully agree Ole isn't happy, but I 100% think he is intelligent enough to know it wasn't a job for 1 summer
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I agree, plus I seriously doubt Sanchez would be the difference between making top 4 or not. If anything, him staying could be the difference. He could be coming off the bench ahead of a Daniel James or a Mason Greenwood, and not do well and not score and that could lead to us drawing and cost us points where Mason would've scored or assisted a winner (or Daniel James).

So it goes both ways. If the whole team performs worse offensively when he is on then surely him hanging around would mean he has to play and those times where he's playing ahead of someone else could cost us dearly.
 

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£29m a season before tax is what Sanchez is being paid to be a massive literal paper weight.

Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Martial, James, Chong, Greenwood and Gomes can all play in his position, and couldn't possibly do any worse.

I honestly can't see a single reason for keeping him at the club at this point.
 

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Keeping Sanchez as a squad option will be really difficult. If he leaves, the squad will certainly be short of experienced attacking options so keeping him seems to make sense.

But having the highest paid player in the league as a back up attacking option will be a complicated dynamic. I think the club (and Ole) would rather an inexperienced hungry squad even if it is lacking depth than having Sanchez there as a back up option.
 

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crossy1686 said:
£29m a season before tax is what Sanchez is being paid to be a massive literal paper weight.

Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Martial, James, Chong, Greenwood and Gomes can all play in his position, and couldn't possibly do any worse.

I honestly can't see a single reason for keeping him at the club at this point.
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Yeh i used to be in the may aswell keep him camp but i think it really makes no sense keeping him. If rashford gets injured put in Greenwood or Chong. They honestly cant do any worse and will be better for the experienced gained. Arsenal Sold Iwobi and are playing 19 year old Reiss Nelson and he doesnt look any worse , actually better.
 

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Yeh i used to be in the may aswell keep him camp but i think it really makes no sense keeping him. If rashford gets injured put in Greenwood or Chong. They honestly cant do any worse and will be better for the experienced gained. Arsenal Sold Iwobi and are playing 19 year old Reiss Nelson and he doesnt look any worse , actually better.
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Spot on. Last time we were threadbare Rashford got a start, and look how that turned out. None of us had even heard of him until he got a surprise start.
 

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Is it just me or He gets injured more frequently these days? Doesn't seem to get along with most of the players as well.
I have no doubt Ole will be true to his words and try him again once He gets back. But if He stays being the rythm killer and still not bothered about building a chemistry with the core of the squad, He needs to leave, give the chances to the youngsters instead.
 

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Spot on. Last time we were threadbare Rashford got a start, and look how that turned out. None of us had even heard of him until he got a surprise start.
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Similar happened with Liverpool and TAA if i remember. They were skint at RB threw in the lad and he turned out to be amazing. I am all for giving the others a chance this season. If they dont work out we know we have to buy if they do then obviously its the best posssible outcome we could think of.
 

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crossy1686 said:
£29m a season before tax is what Sanchez is being paid to be a massive literal paper weight.

Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Martial, James, Chong, Greenwood and Gomes can all play in his position, and couldn't possibly do any worse.

I honestly can't see a single reason for keeping him at the club at this point.
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Me neither.
 

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This obsession with chucking youngsters in at the deep end is one of the most idiotic things on here. I blame LvG and his bullshit philosophy.

As if managers can't play a youngster if there's an older player in the team :rolleyes:
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Dunno why you chat shit, there is no obsession, nor there is a deep end in our current situation. There are certain bunch of players who showed absolutely feck all and if youngster isnt worse than those, i rather see youngster and get rid of overpaid, wage leeching bunch.

Give me Garner over Matic any day of the week for example, specially as backup
 

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According to Di Marzio, ManUtd will pay part of wages.
 

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Get rid asap. He offers nothing on the pitch. Lingard is a better player than him. Keeping the highest earner in the league for depth is insane. Such a shame it didnt work out.
 

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According to Di Marzio, ManUtd will pay part of wages.
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My favourite part of the story is that Inter and Sanchez have agreed personal terms and just need to agree with United now.

I'm sure it's easy for Inter and Sanchez to agree that United will pay most of his wages!
 

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He doesn't inspire me with confidence. I would send him out on loan or sell him given the opportunity and maybe see if we could get a loan of our own in for a midfield position or target man. This way we won't be commiting to a permanent signing and if it doesn't work out then no probs.
 

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Shouldn't be only an option to buy when we pay part of his wages.
 
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So Sanchez asked to leave the club, now is it good to retain player who is poor for 18 months, looks like lost motivation (and obviously on decline), on insane wages and also wants out, or it's better just to let him leave and move on?
 

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We'd only be missing the player we want and hope Sanchez can be, not the reality. At first I thought we'd be mad to sell, but his void can easily be filled by a youngster.
 

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If he’s asked to leave then refuse to pay part of his wages, if he’s the one pushing to leave then he’s shouldn’t be expecting a wage from us. I would rather, if he’s going to leave try and force their hand to make it permanent from the off. Iv he goes for a year struggles and is sent back a year older and less attractive proposition for Italian clubs, then the pill will be all the more bitter to swallow for the fact we also paid for the privilege.

If we even pay a fee to the player make it a permanent transfer to offset any partial pay loss at least we can draw a line under the whole saga instead of renewing it again next summer.
 

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roonster09 said:
So Sanchez asked to leave the club, now is it good to retain player who is poor for 18 months, looks like lost motivation (and obviously on decline), on insane wages and also wants out, or it's better just to let him leave and move on?
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Given the circumstances; his poor form, budget crippliing salary and the player himself wanting a new challenge, we should jump at the chance of moving on. It seems like a no-brainer at this point.
 

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This sounds like creative accounting to me. We could agreed to a mutual termination with Alexis and let Inter compensate him with a healthy signing on fee. If we're going this route I imagine it's because it's better for us to register some transfer income on the player, even if it means we're no better off or are even worse off in real terms.
 

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C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's a monumental risk, we need CL next season or the consequences will be bad.

Ole is an intelligent man, so I just can't believe he is happy with the depth he has in midfield in and attack, so I don't think this would be his call, it was only 2 weeks ago we after Dybala and Mandzuckic to replace Lukaku, now we're supposed to believe that having all these kids around the squad was the plan all along, it's nonsense.

For whatever reason it just seems the club are pushing some sort of cost cutting, and with little regard for the consequences.
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It is a bigger risk to give Sanchez minutes in front of unknown talents like Greenwood & Gomes. Hell, Chong might even prove to do better than Sanchez.
Your last sentence is probably true. You need to cut cost where it isn't being used for something good in order to continue to spend for upgrades. Sanchez & Lukaku out eases up a lot of our wage-budget.

I still think the only outright bad move by the club this summer has been to not sign a couple of midfielders, or at the very least a defensive midfielder.
 

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Given the circumstances; his poor form, budget crippliing salary and the player himself wanting a new challenge, we should jump at the chance of moving on. It seems like a no-brainer at this point.
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Seem a like a no brainer to pay some % of his wages that we don't know yet for him to go on loan to inter for a year and then come back or maybe a tiny chance they pay him the money and some fee ?
 

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If he asked to go, we should ask him to bear all the wages cut. i.e. we won't pay any part of his wages when he is with Inter.
 

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Crashoutcassius said:
Seem a like a no brainer to pay some % of his wages that we don't know yet for him to go on loan to inter for a year and then come back or maybe a tiny chance they pay him the money and some fee ?
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Yeah.

He is seemingly not in Ole's plans for the first-team squad, currently behind a host of younger, hungrier forwards in Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood and Lingard in the pecking order and he has expressed his wishes to move clubs. Sanchez no longer wants to be at United.

Best case scenario - the move reignites a fire in him and his performances for Inter reflect that, giving us the option to sell him on to them at the end of the season or keep him a while longer, hoping he can carry that form into the following season.

Worst case scenario - he performs as expected for Inter but at least we got Inter to cover a (yet unknown) portion of his salary.
 
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