Its not just them. Barca as a whole are dreadful. Its unbelievable how poor they get for example when messi is out.Barca splashed more than 200m on him and Coutinho and their ROI has been total shit.These 2 should be producing goals/assists left and right but they've been shit.
God now. We enough lazy frenchmen already
It's like watching Bebe's highlights from his time with us, what the feck has gone so wrong here
You do make a good point, the majority of ex Dortmund players who left in recent years have really struggled big time to reproduce the same kinda form. Even Lewandowski is a bit shit in the CL. Sancho seems like a proper player with reliable technique as opposed to Dembele, that doesn't guarantee anything.
Just watched this video on reddit, what a painful watch. It's amazing how much confidence and trust plays a big role at top level. He looked lost on the pitch.
Yeah, he’s a odd one for sure. Sometimes he pulls off the odd amazing/world class moment and the very next minute he can’t control a football.
That's my worry with Rashford as well. He relies too much on his pace, and while he has not suffered any serious injury yet, if he loses some of his pace due to an injury, his effectiveness will drop drastically. And he is not that technically brilliant like Mbappe or Vinicius to begin with.
IF Dembele is 100 million, how much do you reckon rashford/martial might go for in this market?
This is such a stupid myth. Clearly Lewandowski has established himself as one of the best strikers of the past decade, and with 53 CL goals he's the 6th most prolific CL goalscorer of all time despite playing only 80 gamed as opposed to those above him.
I don't really think this is true. Yeah you had a few flops like Sahin, Kagawa, Mkhitaryan and Götze (illness) but you also have players like Hummels, Lewa, Aubameyang and Gündogan (arguable) who performed well after leaving Dortmund.
I don't think you can put Lewandowski in that trend. He's been absolutely phenomenal for Bayern, best CF in the world at times. 5 goals in 9 minutes and all that.
christ it looks like we signed him
It wasn't a good game but the video maker carefully ignored the good things, which is always a bit strange. Now the issue for Barcelona is that, he wasn't isolated when it comes to bad display, the lack of movement and creativity/preparation from the CMs was shocking.
I think that this is a little bit over the top. There used to be some truth in it since Klopp made many rather mediocre players punch several classes above there weight, like Kagawa and Sahin. But this had more to do with the system that was bigger than any player. Not only players that went away from Dortmund developed like this, look exemplarily at Großkreutz (played a CL final and won two league titles as a starter, now in German 3rd division), Schmelzer, Subotic and Bender. Those players with real quality (Lewandowski, Hummels, Götze, Gündogan) did more than fine (Götze ultimately failed for different reasons).
I think I can, he was already a great striker in the German league, he's flattered to deceive in the CL big ties.
Gundogan isn't the same player, ruined by various injuries. At Dortmund, under Klopp, he was a joy to watch, a true midfield maestro. I'll still stand by what I said, most Dortmund players who leave their club, struggle to replicate that kinda form at other clubs for various reasons.I don't really think this is true. Yeah you had a few flops like Sahin, Kagawa, Mkhitaryan and Götze (illness) but you also have players like Hummels, Lewa, Aubameyang and Gündogan (arguable) who performed well after leaving Dortmund.
Let's judge Pulisic and Dembele in a year or two.
But I can understand that the view on ex-Dortmund players is a litte bit biased on a United forum.
That video is a lowlights video, so meant to show only the bad moves in the game. It's bit stupid, but that's how it is.
Under any manager that can replicate the Barça game at least somewhat, Dembele would have been relegated to the bench easily. He plays because he’s the wild card, very fast and can have flashes of brilliance, but for the large part unreliable and doesn’t get the basics right.
Agreed. I've never seen the evidence that he is anything other than another pacey young winger with potential. He may yet go on to become fantastic, but his attitude doesn't sound great, and there are other players of his ability level. It is ridiculous, but true, that his failure to put away the chance Messi gave him on a plate against Liverpool is probably what is responsible for eliminating them.
After Messi, dembele is the next best player on the ball. This is a weird comment. I do agree he might be lacking in confidence but that’s it. Would love him here if things don’t work out and Neymar also on the move.
We do do we?
Footballers making mistakes, whatever next eh?
No idea which of the many Dembeles you've been watching, his passing, touch, crossing, shooting, decision-making, bravery, none of these things look Barcelona quality on the ball.
Are you serious? He's sixth in the all-time CL goalscorers list, with 53 goals, 36 of which came at Bayern. Only Ronaldo, Messi, Raul, Benzema and RvN ahead of him. Illustrious company.
Gundogan isn't the same player, ruined by various injuries. At Dortmund, under Klopp, he was a joy to watch, a true midfield maestro. I'll still stand by what I said, most Dortmund players who leave their club, fail to rI don't really think this is true. Yeah you had a few flops like Sahin, Kagawa, Mkhitaryan and Götze (illness) but you also have players like Hummels, Lewa, Aubameyang and Gündogan (arguable) who performed well after leaving Dortmund.
Let's judge Pulisic and Dembele in a year or two.
But I can understand that the view on ex-Dortmund players is a litte bit biased on a United forum.
Nah fam, Dembele is a street baller but his game isn't cut out yet for the top level
Atleast two
Moura is more intelligent than him on the field.
Yep. Valverde has a lot to answer for
