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if ANY team lose their top 2 strikers they would struggle a bit. there's no reason to think both Martial and Rashford, at their ages, will both get injured at the same time. and if so, then well Greenwood will get a great chance to impress.
If we lose either of them, at any point, we are short. We might then do something incredibly stupid like rush injured players back as we become desperate.

Let him go to Inter, just include a clause to recall him.
 

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If we lose either of them, at any point, we are short. We might then do something incredibly stupid like rush injured players back as we become desperate.

Let him go to Inter, just include a clause to recall him.
we usually only play with one striker. we lose one of them, we have Greenwood as back up.

we can play James on the left as back up. Lingard can play there too. any of those options are better than Sanchez.
 

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i'm genuinely shocked at the number of people who have watched Sanchez for his United career and still want him to stay. what are you guys smoking?
Think it is more a case of leaving ourselves short if any of our first choice strikers get injured, common sense really
 

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As much of a flop he’s been, I don’t want him leaving, with Europa, we’ll have many far away matches and he can come in handy, even if he’s a backup for the backups.. I still haven’t forgotten our van Gaals Europa run when all of our strikers were injured (worked out good for Rashford). Same with Jose’s Europa run actually, many of the players got injured..
 

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Think it is more a case of leaving ourselves short if any of our first choice strikers get injured, common sense really
we'll be right. we have Greenwood as striker back up, James as left wing back up. the risk of losing both Martial and Rashford (unlikely) is still worth the potential of getting rid of that contract (particularly should he perform well in Italy).
 

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what if any team loses their top 2 strikers, yeah it might get dicey a bit. Regardless of quality differences spurs lose kane and son they struggle, city loses aguero and jesus they prob struggle, arsenal lose auba and laca and they struggle, chelsea lose abraham/giroud they struggle. So yeah if we lose rashford AND martial we prob struggle a bit. Except of spurs/arsenal/chelsea id be happiest with our 3rd option of greenwood vs what they would have as 3rd choice striker. City im sure would just go false 9 and kill teams with still their depth. Liverpool lose salah and mane im sure they flank firmino well enough to get through.
 

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Sanchez hasnt even been average for us, so seriously, him going is a great thing. Especially if hes of our hands eventually given the wages hes apparently on. He should nowhere near be our top earner. Its been one of the biggest fails of a transfer weve made even though it was a swap.

Even with Europa, he shouldnt be getting minutes ahead of any of our kids. He hasnt been like Mkhi who showed glimpses, he just seems like somebody who came to ensure his Dogs were fed for life, it didnt work and he just has been on the decline. Italy might suit him but I reckon its best for all parties if hes goes (permanently eventually)
 

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If we lose either of them, at any point, we are short. We might then do something incredibly stupid like rush injured players back as we become desperate.

Let him go to Inter, just include a clause to recall him.
Or get absolutely rinsed if we have to go into the transfer market.
 

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The dead wood is going, which is what we all wanted, no? Why are you guys still complaining? :lol:
It's the same people complaining we do not have 11 world class players in our team while simultaenously bemoaning a lack of playing time for our youngsters.

The club just can't win with some people :lol:
 

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we usually only play with one striker. we lose one of them, we have Greenwood as back up.

we can play James on the left as back up. Lingard can play there too. any of those options are better than Sanchez.
Yes, technically we play with one striker, but in reality we play with 2 even 3 players whos job is to share the striker responsibility.

Rashford
Martial
Lingard

Thats almost certainly going to be the first choice attack. Lose one and we can put James in while still having Greenwood as an option. However, lose two and things go south very quickly. Greenwood comes in and we are left with, erm... Mata as our sole attacking option, assuming Mata isnt actually ahead of someone like Greenwood.

With possibly 70+ games this season, it is a risk and one that if it backfires.... well we are fecked as a club because we saw this past transfer window that we cannot afford not to finish in the top 4 this season. Our squad right now, exactly as it is, is more than capable of doing that if everyone stays fit.... but we all know that will not happen.
 

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we'll be right. we have Greenwood as striker back up, James as left wing back up. the risk of losing both Martial and Rashford (unlikely) is still worth the potential of getting rid of that contract (particularly should he perform well in Italy).
My worry is the travelling in Europe we will have to do, ass end of nowhere no doubt 3 times before the middle of December, league cup games as well.

Greenwood will be class but throwing him in to having to play 20/25 games in his first season is a massive ask for a 17 year old.

We are banking on Martial and Rashford both coming good goal scoring wise, Martial not having his usual hissy fit during the season, both of them not getting injured or mentally exhausted (which happened to Rashford towards the back end of last season)

Also banking on James having a top season in his first year, plus we need Lingard and Mata to step their games up considerably from last year.

We need a lot of things to go our way for us not to be stretched up top. I love the fact he is giving the kids a chance and I think Greenwood and Gomes will be regular starters come the end of the season.

We are putting our eggs in one very big basket, considering we are still short in midfield as well. The fact that Sanchez is going on loan and we are paying half his wages, he could have been an option just in case it does not all go swimmingly.

But as I said above, I won't lose any sleep over him going as he has been utter turd. Just hope it does not come back to bite us in the ass.
 

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We would get absolutely bent over in January if that turns out to be the case.
We don't have to sign premium players in January though, a Henke Larsson deal would be infinitely better then recalling Sanchez.
 

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Upon reflection, I am happy about this. I was initally worried about the squad being too thin but what the hell ? If the coaching trusts the kid to step up then I do too
 

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Yes, technically we play with one striker, but in reality we play with 2 even 3 players whos job is to share the striker responsibility.

Rashford
Martial
Lingard

Thats almost certainly going to be the first choice attack. Lose one and we can put James in while still having Greenwood as an option. However, lose two and things go south very quickly. Greenwood comes in and we are left with, erm... Mata as our sole attacking option, assuming Mata isnt actually ahead of someone like Greenwood.

With possibly 70+ games this season, it is a risk and one that if it backfires.... well we are fecked as a club because we saw this past transfer window that we cannot afford not to finish in the top 4 this season. Our squad right now, exactly as it is, is more than capable of doing that if everyone stays fit.... but we all know that will not happen.
We still have players like mata as you mentioned but ugh overall to him haha, james, gomes and chong as youth options, even dalot played some at RW. And if ole doesnt like that he can go to a diamond with no wide players really and just a greenwood/lingard central with pogba behind fred and mctominay as shuttlers and matic sitting like a turtle.

The point is there are always creative options IF you get an injury crisis. Keeping a player like sanchez around for a break in case of emergency situation is kinda silly IMO. Hell id rather just see gomes and greenwood starting and ole get creative.
 

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Where did you read that?
The way Ole been talking about him getting games for us this season and beeing quality. He usually doesnt straight out lie about players. He would have deflected the question if he didnt want him to go.
 

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and having Sanchez in the squad is somehow going to stop that from happening? :lol:
We would be absolutely desperate to strengthen if that scenario happened. So clubs would have a stronger hand than us in negotiations and chuck a few extra quid on top. It's fairly common sense
 

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The dead wood is going, which is what we all wanted, no? Why are you guys still complaining? :lol:
Because what will United fans do to fill their time if it's not moaning?

You'd think we're loosing the Arsenal Sanchez given the posts in here. Funny how you cant move in a Lingard/Mata thread for people moaning about having them around is blocking Gomes' games whereas in Sanchez's case people are desperate to keep him :lol:
 

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We would be absolutely desperate to strengthen if that scenario happened. So clubs would have a stronger hand than us in negotiations and chuck a few extra quid on top. It's fairly common sense
yes, because Sanchez's non-existent form for us wouldn't be indication enough.
 

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Hopefully we won't take the lion s share in this one..
Don’t care tbh.
It feels like we are finally taking a step back to actually be able to be stronger in the future. Playing has beens because they might be a fraction better right now just keeps us going in circles.
 

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So you guys that wanted him to stay, would rather him take minutes off Gomes and Chong?

Man I'd be so pissed if he stayed and we played him ahead of Gomes, the kid is going to be a star and is in the last year of his contract. Hopefully this move shows him he has a much more clearer path to the first team now.
 
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So the club should fully pay his wages and not utilse him, over subsidising his wages and allowing him to play elsewhere. Plus also putting him up for a potential transfer to Inter into the bargain. It'd be insane to keep him and allow him to sit around for a few years on his full contract, better for both parties if he goes out on loan and hopefully is successful and then is sold. I seriously don't get your logic, no one is going to match his wages with his form since he joined United. Club made a mistake and are now trying to recify it the best way they can.
I certainty don’t want him to stay - but we have a very realistic scenario where we are paying the majority of his wages for the next year. If Inter won’t pay all of his wages this year, then there’s no chance of them doing so next year.

He then comes back, and a year older, we have even less of a chance of getting rid of him permanently.
 

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So you guys that wanted him to stay, would rather him take minutes off Gomes and Chong?

Man I'd be so pissed if he stayed and we played him ahead of Gomes, the kid is going to be a star and is in the last year of his contract. Hopefully this move shows him he has a much more clearer path to the first team now.
No way would I have him ahead of Gomes not a chance in hell, my only concern is the amount of games 70+, the travelling we will potentially have to do in the Europa plus both cup competitions, it is going to be a big ask on the forward line.

If he stayed he would be behind Greenwood, Gomes, James, Martial, Rashford etc., I would literally use him in Europa, early round cup games and back up for any injuries etc.

Chong I have my doubts, personally think he needs a full season in the Championship, watched him loads in U23's and very very raw and erratic still, gives the ball away far to much at the moment, needs to mature.

Don't think he is near the level of Gomes or Greenwood personally.
 

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yes, but we would be paying less. that's the point. i'd rather pay £150k per week for him to (hopefully do well) at Roma rather than £300k per week for him to sit on our bench and contribute sweet fa (as evidenced by his entire career at United thus far).

there have been some reports saying there would be an option to buy for 15m. our best hope is he does well for Roma in an easier league, and they then buy him (or someone else in Italy does). he's not going to do anything in England.



yeah there will, because Sanchez is utter crap. but the more opportunity the better. i don't want Ole to feel obliged to give Sanchez minutes out of pity, or whatever. better him out of the club and the dressing room completely. he doesn't fit into anything the club is wanting to do right now and especially going forward.
Yes we will be paying less for not having the player at all as an option which is stupid imo. And it’s not like 150k is peanuts.

Ole is not obliged to play anyone. Yes he has been a bad signing but also lots of it is down to injuries. He has had some solid games and he can be still useful.

If he does bad in his loan, then we are stuck with him for sure. Obligation to buy would be a different story imo.
 

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I certainty don’t want him to stay - but we have a very realistic scenario where we are paying the majority of his wages for the next year. If Inter won’t pay all of his wages this year, then there’s no chance of them doing so next year.

He then comes back, and a year older, we have even less of a chance of getting rid of him permanently.
It's better to get half his wages off the books for 1 season, that pay the full whack. If he's not going to play here it makes him no more viable to sell or give away next summer, at least at Inter he's got a manager who wants him and will use him, so he's in the shop window. It's the best option we have, can't even offload him to China.
 
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It's better to get half his wages off the books for 1 season, that pay the full whack. If he's not going to play here it makes him no more viable to sell or give away next summer, at least at Inter he's got a manager who wants him and will use him, so he's in the shop window. It's the best option we have, can't even offload him to China.
Potentially it is. On the plus side, perhaps he has a revival at Inter and we can get him off of our books next summer.

Just a shame we can’t get rid of him now, even for free.
 

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we usually only play with one striker. we lose one of them, we have Greenwood as back up.

we can play James on the left as back up. Lingard can play there too. any of those options are better than Sanchez.
I’m really surprised that someone who has seen Lingard play thinks he is a good option in his own position never mind further forward.
 

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Yes, technically we play with one striker, but in reality we play with 2 even 3 players whos job is to share the striker responsibility.

Rashford
Martial
Lingard

Thats almost certainly going to be the first choice attack. Lose one and we can put James in while still having Greenwood as an option. However, lose two and things go south very quickly. Greenwood comes in and we are left with, erm... Mata as our sole attacking option, assuming Mata isnt actually ahead of someone like Greenwood.

With possibly 70+ games this season, it is a risk and one that if it backfires.... well we are fecked as a club because we saw this past transfer window that we cannot afford not to finish in the top 4 this season. Our squad right now, exactly as it is, is more than capable of doing that if everyone stays fit.... but we all know that will not happen.
The key thing you’re forgetting is that even if Alexis plays with all those scenarios we are still not going to win any matches as he’s pony! If he’s produced the odd moment of class i’d agree but I’d much rather give Chong and Gomes opportunities than a player on over 20 million a season wages
 

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I certainty don’t want him to stay - but we have a very realistic scenario where we are paying the majority of his wages for the next year. If Inter won’t pay all of his wages this year, then there’s no chance of them doing so next year.

He then comes back, and a year older, we have even less of a chance of getting rid of him permanently.
But its not like Sanchez can come to us and complain if that happens. If we deny him this move, continue to not play him, we will end up with a very unhappy players on our hands for the next three years. Atleast this way we keep Sanchez happy for a year, while giving a chance to our youngsters.
 

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It is a weird one, I want him to go, but then I think at some point this season he’d probably be a handy option to have. Then I’m like, yeah Ole, clear the lot you don’t want out and we’ll just kinda see what happens this season.
Does seem some what scary going in to the season with such a young inexperienced team but still it’s kinda exciting.
 

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Get rid. The more ruthless decisions the better. Get United back to having hungry players who are motivated to play for the club.
 

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He s like a car with very high mileage even for its age. It comes to a point where eveything starts to fall down.
 

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Thats all well and good, except that between now and january, there are 25-30 games and should Rashford or Martial get injured, we are going to be very toothless.
Having Sanchez here makes no difference in that regard, as his performances have been so bad (with absolutely no reason to think anything will change in the future) that he has been the most toothless of them all.

Lingard, Mata, James, Greenwood, Chong, Gomes, Pereira, Dalot. That's eight players off the top of my head that we have capable of playing in the three main attacking positions and it would be disappointing if any of those eight were as bad as what Sanchez generally has been for us. I would absolutely want any of the first six to be picked there ahead of him, and probably Pereira as well. That leaves Sanchez battling it out with a rightback to be our 10th choice in the three attacking positions (I expect Pogba would move into a more attacking role in this situation so we'd only have three positions to cover rather than four). The highest paid player in the league, whose wages seems to have caused us significant problems with our other players, who generally tends to cause a number of our other top players to play poorly as he constantly gets in their way...and we'd keep him around to be that far down the pecking order?
 
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