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40
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4
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eggwithsideburns

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Another game Lingard starts and another game we regret it, no idea how he keeps getting into the team.
 

Santoryo

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I just read this bit on reddit :

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Q. Did Jesse Lingard get a PL goal or assist in the following months?

May 18? No

Augt 18? No

Sep 18? No

Oct 18? No

Nov 18? No

Dec 2018? YES (4 Goals, 2 assists)

Jan 19? No

Feb 19? No

Mar 19? No

Apr 19? No

May 19? No

Aug 19? No
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I mean if this true than this is beyond tragic. Something needs to be done. You can't and I repeat just CAN'T have your number 10 in a 4231 system be this toothless. Literally No end product. He needs to be replaced from the starting 11.

Those stats are unacceptable if true.
 

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I just don't really understand how we're in this position again.

Lingard's fine, really, but you know what you get with him and you know what you don't get. What you don't get is the output to suggest he should be a first choice attacking player at United. We knew that. Going into the season, then, why did we settle on 4-2-3-1 if we aren't able to get anybody else in?
What about us over the years suggests consistent logical planning? Ole has done well with AWB & Maguire but it's 2 steps forward, 1 step back when we lose Herrera on a free with no replacement.

Not replacing Herrera means Pogba deeper so we have to rely on players like Lingard to create for us, which equals a whole world of pain, as the stats above show.
 

Santoryo

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Pointless.
Literally. From reddit :

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Q. Did Jesse Lingard get a PL goal or assist in the following months?

May 18? No

Augt 18? No

Sep 18? No

Oct 18? No

Nov 18? No

Dec 2018? YES (4 Goals, 2 assists)

Jan 19? No

Feb 19? No

Mar 19? No

Apr 19? No

May 19? No

Aug 19? No "
 

Yagami

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Think we might have invented the defensive Number 10.
Thing is, we've had 10s in the past like Rooney who did as much defensively as him but had actual quality, too. In fact, Rooney and Tevez used to kind of rotate who'd stay up and who'd drop deep to offer support which was one of the reasons I loved that partnership. Even Yorke would play as a sort of 10, helping out defensively, contributing to the build-up, etc, but was a quality footballer alongside his good work rate.

I don't know how, after all his years of .mediocrity/rubbish, he's our starting #10 in 2019.
 

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Thing is, we've had 10s in the past like Rooney who did as much defensively as him but had actual quality, too. In fact, Rooney and Tevez used to kind of rotate who'd stay up and who'd drop deep to offer support which was one of the reasons I loved that partnership. Even Yorke would play as a sort of 10, helping out defensively, contributing to the build-up, etc, but was a quality footballer alongside his good work rate.

I don't know how, after all his years of .mediocrity/rubbish, he's our starting #10 in 2019.
The same trap about Jones is Duncan Edwards Mk.II.
Lingard one is that he is a late bloomer a great man once said, dont know how late obviously.
United literally took those words as gospel unfortunately.
 

drdoityourself

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Can't wait until December. Christmas, maybe a Lingard goal and even an assist. What a month.

Mata is even worse now, I don't see him trusting Gomes anytime soon. To have no creative option in this attacking midfield role going into this season is shockingly naive.

His performances over the years have just become worse and worse, yet his place in the starting eleven has never been more safe it seems.
 

Joga Bonito

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Not good enough to be starting. As average as they come. Question being who? Mata looks poor and I'd love for Gomes to take his place but can understand the rationale behind bedding him in slowly. However at this point, I'd much rather see anyone else other than Lingard.
 

RussellWilson

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Now lukaku is gone, he wins the award for worst first touch in the team.

He'll either miss control a ball completely or control it so he's always running back to his own goal. Terrible footballer.
 

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He needs to play beside Pogba instead of in front of him, and allow Pogba to get forward. Since pressing is his best asset let him take over the Herrera role, and we move back to our 4-3-3.

Simply not good enough to be a no. 10, and it's very weird we're making Pogba stay back to accommodate him.
 

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We should bench Lingard by playing 433. We don't have a top No.10.

I would like to see Gomes in a midfield of 3.
 

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He has consistently offered far too little to the team in an attacking sense.

Has to be the least creative attacking midfielder I've seen at the club.
 

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I don't think Ole is playing Lingard thinking "yeah he's going to get me a goal or an assist". I think he's played for his work rate, his pressing and general link up play. Sure he's got a goal in him but it's clear he's being played for other reasons which Ole rates higher, and Jose before him and LVG before him.
I agree with you, but then the question is why are we playing him in a position which end product is crucial?

At least, in a midfield 3 he can get away with poor stats as Herrera did, as well as not prevent Pogba from roaming forward.
 

VJ1762

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Bro, this stat just pissed me off.
Lingard: 113 PL games, 10 assists
Di Maria: 27 PL games, 10 assists
 

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Oh I know Nani did at least have a couple of solid seasons with us before going off the boil.

I’m not so much comparing their playing style, it’s the frustration that I’m reminded off.

The fluffed chances.
Passes that should be shots.
Shots that should be passes.
The complete mis-control of basic passes.
Failing to beat the full back and get in a decent cross.
Mate, on his day Nani was a world class winger who could shoot, dribble, pass, cross, had great movement and had match winning credentials.

J Lings can't even spell his fecking name properly let alone provide an attacking threat in a top four team.

People use to call Anderson a clown but given the opportunities Lingard has had in this team, he'd be putting up double figures in goals and assists.

Needs to be fecked off to some mid level PL side or to a bit part role where he belongs.
 

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Shouldn't be starting games, but that's probably a measure of the strength of our squad at the moment.
Frustrating again tonight.
 

Jacob

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We should bench Lingard by playing 433. We don't have a top No.10.

I would like to see Gomes in a midfield of 3.
Pogba 10, Fred 6. Problem solved.

Fred isn't great but I think this change benefits us more than Having Pogba at 6 and Lingard 10.
 

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Don't like having a go at the academy players we have brought through but he defo has regressed on the ball, tried his balls off closing down, but on the ball was poor and tbh he just did'nt look focused and imo should have been off earlier, that swipe for a shot was Sunday league stuff, great ball by AWB adjust your feet and place it, pace was on the ball, was'nt just that, there were several instances before and after of very casual and sloppy play.
 

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It's gone to his head, he was a useful squad player eighteen months ago but now he's as pointless as Mata.

Thank god he hands out free t-shirts to his local team or I'd have to start questioning his inclusion as a regular starter for us.
 

criticalanalysis

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Been saying it all along, whytf do we play with Lingard in front of Pogba?

I'd rather we press less but have more creative and stability in the middle with Fred/Matic/Peirera behind Pogba.

Imagine finding Pogba in the opposition's half with Rashford/Martial/James in front of him?

FFS. Just too obvious.
 

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He needs to be doing much more as a number 10. His output just isn’t good enough for a team that wants to challenge the league.

Yes he runs around and huffs and puffs but he just doesn’t get into good enough attacking areas - and when he does he fluffs it! Couldn’t believe that airshot. He scored that and 2-0 game over.
 

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Kieron Richardson was better and a bigger goal threat.
Jokeeeeeee. Kinda.
 

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Consistent in his productivity. Gotta give him that.

We'll win nothing with him starting the majority of matches as part of an attacking unit.
 

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I don't think Ole is playing Lingard thinking "yeah he's going to get me a goal or an assist". I think he's played for his work rate, his pressing and general link up play. Sure he's got a goal in him but it's clear he's being played for other reasons which Ole rates higher, and Jose before him and LVG before him.
That is the truth unfortunately. I don't understand why our coaches are fine with attacking player who is total shit but they rate him. And that is the reason why he will play next game and game after that and game after that.
 

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Pathetic performance. Was below average and easily the worst player on the pitch.

When we play this way, especially against teams which sit back, the #10 position is so crucial. He couldn't even perform the basics right.

Every time the ball went to him, our attack died down. I'd honestly start Periera, Gomes or greenwood over him. He offers absolutely nothing.
 

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Played like a total wanker. There’s only so far pressing and energy will take a player. Tonight wasn’t remotely good enough.

It’s easy to see why Eriksen was of interest.
 

Bojan11

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Gomes*

Although Maddison would be a good addition.
Rather than worrying about next year with the likes of Sancho or Maddison, we should have strengthened this season especially Lingard. It’s not hard to be upgrade over him. Those players won’t want to come next year if we finish another season outside top four.
 
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