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But Martial and Greenwood perform better ...
Martial is done if doesn't sort out his game. He can't choose when to perform and when not too. Better to give chance to hungrier player.

Greenwood is a forward. Competition is not between him and james. It is between him and Rashford.
 

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Only positive things apparently. You can write all day how superb is AWB, how good is Greenwood, how good is Chong but not "bad" things despite how obvious they are. If you see that you should ignore it. Because top reds will attack you
Yes it’s also irrational to praise those players for a couple of good pre-season games. But it would take an outright miserable person to ask people to stop being happy. On the other hand, it really is okay to tell someone to stop being sad for irrational reasons.
 

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...James completed the medical and did all the media photos with Leeds. However Swansea backed out last minute which ultimately scrapped the deal in January.

From would-have-been Leeds player (virtually done and dusted) to United. Crazy how things work out!
 

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Do we know why Swansea pulled the plug? Do we know how much he'd of cost Leeds?
 

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Do we know why Swansea pulled the plug? Do we know how much he'd of cost Leeds?
Probably either us or another premier league club showing interest in taking him in the summer. Means they keep him another half a season, get in all likelihood a bigger fee and he doesn't end up with a rival championship team.
 

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Just watched the Daniel James episode of the Leeds documentary and it is crazy how close he really was!

Poor form on Swansea’s part but our gain!
 

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Daniel James in the match against Wolves showed that he is better than Andreas Pereira and should play at the start XI
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They don't really play in the same position though. One is exclusively a winger (and mostly a left one) and the other one is a #10/CM that can also perhaps play as RM/RW due to having a good delivery. It's Lingard who's more in direct competition with Pereira atm, since they tend to play in the sane positions (#10/RW) more. And I certainly prefer Pereira to Lingard as the former possesses crossing, set-piece and long shot abilities that are absent from the latter's toolkit.

Not that Dan James showed his better than Pereira in any way. His first full game was very disappointing.
 

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They don't really play in the same position though. One is exclusively a winger (and mostly a left one) and the other one is a #10/CM that can also perhaps play as RM/RW due to having a good delivery. It's Lingard who's more in direct competition with Pereira atm, since they tend to play in the sane positions (#10/RW) more. And I certainly prefer Pereira to Lingard as the former possesses crossing, set-piece and long shot abilities that are absent from the latter's toolkit.

Not that Dan James showed his better than Pereira in any way. His first full game was very disappointing.
I’d really disagree that he was disappointing what are you realistically expecting from him in that game?

He worked hard, got in behind, linked with others in the team well, drew fouls and caused very good players like Neves to make cardable tackles against him which clearly shows he’s considered a threat.

When is the last time we had a RW who did all of the above?
 

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I’d really disagree that he was disappointing what are you realistically expecting from him in that game?

He worked hard, got in behind, linked with others in the team well, drew fouls and caused very good players like Neves to make cardable tackles against him which clearly shows he’s considered a threat.

When is the last time we had a RW who did all of the above?
He also had zero quality on the ball, was bullied by Jonny for the whole game, didn't create a single goal scoring chance from what I can remember. He was a bit better in the second half where he drew fouls on the counter etc.

His movement was also not great when AWB would advance with the ball, he wouldn't make any runs in behind Jonny which was just odd
 

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I’d really disagree that he was disappointing what are you realistically expecting from him in that game?

He worked hard, got in behind, linked with others in the team well, drew fouls and caused very good players like Neves to make cardable tackles against him which clearly shows he’s considered a threat.

When is the last time we had a RW who did all of the above?
You're describing a water carrier. Someone who harassed, worked his socks off but ultimately had 0 end product. He lost possession too often by looking for a foul or poor control, smashed many crosses against then shins of defenders, made the wrong choices with his final pass when it mattered (notably the pass to Martial). That's not good enough for a RW of a team aspiring to be top 4. Drawing a yellow card is not an indication of being a threat. I expected more actual threat from him. Hopefully he'll improve, he's still young, but he doesn't seem ready.

As for you last question, when was the last time we had a right winger? That's the time we had all of the above and a lot more. All our other rivals seem to have it.
 

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You're describing a water carrier. Someone who harassed, worked his socks off but ultimately had 0 end product. He lost possession too often by looking for a foul or poor control, smashed many crosses against then shins of defenders, made the wrong choices with his final pass when it mattered (notably the pass to Martial). That's not good enough for a RW of a team aspiring to be top 4. Drawing a yellow card is not an indication of being a threat. I expected more actual threat from him. Hopefully he'll improve, he's still young, but he doesn't seem ready.

As for you last question, when was the last time we had a right winger? That's the time we had all of the above and a lot more. All our other rivals seem to have it.
Those crosses resulted in corners which with the likes of Maguire now become potential goal scenarios. He also linked well with Wan Bissaka too.

I appreciate he did not set up a goal but he clearly was causing Wolves some problems particularly in the second half with his pace.

I absolutely agree he isn’t a top 4 winger at the moment but he’s doing the basics of what we need for the system to work. Our higher quality players Pogba, Martial and Rashford should take the responsibility for now of the more productive football.

Wolves defended with a deep block and considering his age and that this was his first premier league start I see more positives than negatives from him. He will learn the movements of Rashford and Martial as he plays with them more but for once it was refreshing to see a wide RW spreading the play for United instead of us being so narrow and easy to counter.

I think he will come good as a rotation first team player.

He also had zero quality on the ball, was bullied by Jonny for the whole game, didn't create a single goal scoring chance from what I can remember. He was a bit better in the second half where he drew fouls on the counter etc.

His movement was also not great when AWB would advance with the ball, he wouldn't make any runs in behind Jonny which was just odd
He did not have zero quality on the ball why exaggerate? He made sensible passes in the majority and made some good incisive runs. He wasn’t bullied by Jonny he was fouled a lot yes but I got the sense more that he was being fouled and pushed because they didn’t know what else to do against his pace.

His dribble into the box to pass to Wan Bissaka was positive attacking play and while he personally didn’t play a final ball to a goal scoring opportunity there was a lot of good pieces of play attacking wise from him.

He wasn’t making runs in behind when there was no space to do so! Wolves had a very deep block which meant when AWB progressed forward there was no space in behind so James took up a supportive position.

I wonder how many of the posters here have coached before when people are so critical of an ok performance.

I’m not saying it was outstanding but to say it was poor given the context is unfair.

I stand by my belief he will come good soon.
 

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Ofcourse we need to be patient with him and he needs to be given the time and the space to establish himself in the team,but to propagate rubbish like he had a great game against wolves is just ridiculous.He had a poor game...We need much more from him...
 

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:lol: at those subtitles.

"Fighting Neves"
"Shots fired in the box"
"Attempting to play with head"

and my favorite - "Win the out" (..ball goes into a throw in). :lol:
:lol: and "Interaction with Wan-Bissaka" You'd think They are enemies outside of the match because their interaction seemed very important and unusual.
 

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:lol: and "Interaction with Wan-Bissaka" You'd think They are enemies outside of the match because their interaction seemed very important and unusual.
I guess it's positive that he didn't write interracial with AWB in an attempt to explain how well they get along. :D
 

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Ofcourse we need to be patient with him and he needs to be given the time and the space to establish himself in the team,but to propagate rubbish like he had a great game against wolves is just ridiculous.He had a poor game...We need much more from him...
Who said he had a great game?

He had a completely fine performance for someone making his first PL start.

He did all the basics we need from him and didn’t embarrass himself.

Equally he didn’t look great in that there was no outstanding moment where you thought WOW but he offered width, worked hard for the team and pressed really well. That to me was fine for his first start.

Would I be happy with that same performance after he’s got more games under his belt absolutely not but right now he’s young and needs support! Not people being overly critical that he’s not right away scoring or assisting.

We don’t need much more from him. He needs to use his pace more and take his defender on more when he starts doing that with confidence (which comes with people having faith and trust) we’ll see the best of him.
 

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Ofcourse we need to be patient with him and he needs to be given the time and the space to establish himself in the team,but to propagate rubbish like he had a great game against wolves is just ridiculous.He had a poor game...We need much more from him...
Disagree that he had a poor game against Wolves.
I did not like the dives and fortunately neither did the ref. So I hope that this element of his game will stop.
That aside, the positives outweighed the negatives.
He has attitude which is very important.
He is quick and works hard. Especially when tracking back to win the ball back.
Wolves are not an easy team to play against and he needs more of an end product.
But. He has lots of potential and needs to be coached well.
 

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Ofcourse we need to be patient with him and he needs to be given the time and the space to establish himself in the team,but to propagate rubbish like he had a great game against wolves is just ridiculous.He had a poor game...We need much more from him...
He was ok. Neither poor nor great.

About average performance which is to be expected from an inexperienced young player. His end product is woeful, but that will get better when he matures.
 

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Appreciate it was his first start but he looked very raw and a good distance of first team quality tbf.
Maybe a few games in the u23's would give him time to establish himself?
 

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He was ok. Neither poor nor great.

About average performance which is to be expected from an inexperienced young player. His end product is woeful, but that will get better when he matures.
This!

I honestly don’t know what people expect from his first start in a new league against a well drilled team.

He was good against Wolves for a first showing. Plenty to improve on but nothing to worry about.
 

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He needs space to run into. Starting him against a team that defends with 9 players probably wasn't the greatest idea.
 

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They don't really play in the same position though. One is exclusively a winger (and mostly a left one) and the other one is a #10/CM that can also perhaps play as RM/RW due to having a good delivery. It's Lingard who's more in direct competition with Pereira atm, since they tend to play in the sane positions (#10/RW) more. And I certainly prefer Pereira to Lingard as the former possesses crossing, set-piece and long shot abilities that are absent from the latter's toolkit.

Not that Dan James showed his better than Pereira in any way. His first full game was very disappointing.
let's be realistic - Dan James not RW, Paul Pogba not DM, Andreas Pereira not RW, Anthony Martial not CF, Marcus Rashford not LW. Half of squad isn't playing at its positions, what Solskjær are foking doing?
Can he influence the transfer policy of the club, or the club buys him players and he already adjusting them to the position?
 

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let's be realistic - Dan James not RW, Paul Pogba not DM, Andreas Pereira not RW, Anthony Martial not CF, Marcus Rashford not LW. Half of squad isn't playing at its positions, what Solskjær are foking doing?
Can he influence the transfer policy of the club, or the club buys him players and he already adjusting them to the position?
I disagree with the bolded part, Martial can be a great CF in this system. I would say James would be better on the left and we should probably use him there either as an impact sub or to give Rashford or Martial a break in the cup games. James does have the versatility to play across the front as a back-up but I would not start him on the right or through the middle.
 

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Disagree that he had a poor game against Wolves.
I did not like the dives and fortunately neither did the ref. So I hope that this element of his game will stop.
That aside, the positives outweighed the negatives.
He has attitude which is very important.
He is quick and works hard. Especially when tracking back to win the ball back.
Wolves are not an easy team to play against and he needs more of an end product.
But. He has lots of potential and needs to be coached well.
Agree. I don't think he should be starting matches at this stage, that said he was busy, attacked and defended with gusto, and worked hard. The coaching will be key, he has this extra touch he takes when it's time to shoot, for instance - that needs to go. It worked against Chelsea, but only due to a deflection, and gave the defender time against Wolves to get a block in. I haven't seen him deliver a killer cross yet. The pieces are there though, and he has a great attitude and a good character, so he has a chance.

He does indeed need to stop diving. I imagine it's an early self-preservation response after getting kicked quite a lot so far, but he needs to work out a different solution.
 

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He should take a look at Adama Traore:

1. How to use the pace
2. How to train in the gym

;)
 

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He's 20 isn't he? Too young to be sending to bulk up when it's going to happen naturally anyway
 

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He could do with not diving around like a massive fanny though. Especially not when 8 of his team mates are in front of him waiting for a ball into the box
 

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He's 20 isn't he? Too young to be sending to bulk up when it's going to happen naturally anyway
bulking wont happen naturally... u have to eat a lot / hit the gym if u want to bulk... it doesnt happen if u eat a balanced caloric diet and run for a living.
 

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bulking wont happen naturally... u have to eat a lot / hit the gym if u want to bulk... it doesnt happen if u eat a balanced caloric diet and run for a living.
Well not naturally but I wouldn't be sending him to put weight on when he's still not fully filled out. It's not going to have a massive effect on his game in terms of improvement but it might have a negative impact in terms of agility/speed and natural fitness.
 

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Anyway I was actually quite impressed with him in some ways against Wolves. He wasn't afraid to get on the ball and take people on. He showed he can drive into dangerous positions. He was in the game and having an impact in the second half and I was actually slightly surprised he was taken off. A couple of times he just needed a final ball and he could have won us the game.

Lots of things to work on aswell but the ability is there and it was good to see him not shrinking under the spotlight...that's one of the big tests in itself.

He just the composure/confidence when it comes to decision making, and needs to cut down the frustrating parts of his game, and he looks like he has a decent chance.
 

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He could do with not diving around like a massive fanny though. Especially not when 8 of his team mates are in front of him waiting for a ball into the box
They showed on replays that when he got the yellow, the defender actually ever so slightly caught his shin. Not enough to warrant a free kick perhaps, but neither was it diving.
 
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