Will the club ever call Gary Neville out on his bs?

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So ironic how people here with clear agendas are criticising someone for what they perceive to be a clear agenda.

Agree with him or not, Gary Neville has far more right to his opinion than anyone here, as someone who sweated blood for all of his career to contribute to our most successful period in our illustrious history.

And to think, some "fans" think he should be silenced. Disgraceful. Nobody should be silenced, but if I had to choose between G-Nev and some of the over-entitled fans on here....
 

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He was wrong about giving Moyes time, was completely blind to Rooney’s downfall, was over critical of De Gea when he first came to the club, and now Pogba.
That’s just off the top of my head.

That’s just poor punditry.
 

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I don't care about Gary Neville's opinion as a pundit. He's paid to be controversial and create heated discussions. When Neville has a strong opinion then you know it's personal against a foreign "star". Nothing new...
 

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If it was just his opinion, not too many would care.. If people think Pogba is a problem behind the scenes, the idiots will feel justified in abusing the player.

Everything coming out of United, at all times, for years, suggests Pogba is great behind the scenes.



Easy solution .. Don't watch it.
I dont listen to or watch any "pundits" talk. I dont care for any of them..

I have said this before, I'll watch it every single time if they did a pre match analysis after the lineups were announced (1 hr before) and talked about how both teams would play, talk about tactics and talk about how they see the match playing out. Doesnt matter if they get it wrong.. but if they know about football more than me, tell me, in depth, what to expect..

I have no interest in "monday morning quaterbacks" drawing triangles on a touchscreen and picking 2 second clips to fit their narrative.
Yeah I feel I have a measure of who Pogba is now - a young guy who loves playing football and is very visually performative but actually quite hardworking, humble and goofy behind that.

I agree that the hindsight is absurd. If they really are experts, I'd love them to illuminate what might be seen in a match, rather than attempt to generate clickbait (and Neville was very much trying to generate ratings and clickbait) with post-game comments. Facts are it was a draw, so didn't fit either "United are back" or "United are in crisis" as a narrative, so he was trying to get everyone responding about something else, because the PL costs SKY a fortune and is essentially still what turns them a profit.
 

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He was wrong about giving Moyes time, was completely blind to Rooney’s downfall, was over critical of De Gea when he first came to the club, and now Pogba.
That’s just off the top of my head.

That’s just poor punditry.
Yes, and I don't think there's anything wrong with criticising him for poor punditry. It's when posters directly suggest that he is responsible for the disgusting, clearly deepset mindsets of other people out there that the problems begin. Then again, football fandom is its own kind of impotence isn't it, watching from the sidelines and yet identifying your own self with the performances of people who don't know you exist. It's a recipe for rage in a certain kind of person.
 

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I see a lot of discussion of Nev the player. I think there’s a line to be drawn between the player and the pundit.

As a player, selfless, loyal, determined.

As a pundit selfish, bigoted, malicious.
He's highly opinioned, a little overzealous or passionate when discussing United, often allowing his heart to rule his head, but accusing him of bigotry and maliciousness is too much.
 

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"Gary can start an argument in a empty room", said SAF...or was that Roy Keane he was referring too?
 

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Why is it ok to hate Pogba?
Why wouldn't it be?

Plenty of people on this forum hate Gary Neville passionately.

Pogba left the club once already and wanted to leave again this summer and even offered himself to City last year - yet it's ok to hate club legend of undisputed, 20 year loyalty but not Paul Pogba?
 

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Fair enough to point out that Nev has been somewhat soft on players he worked with as part of the England setup - and players he's mates with (silent domination and all that). That's him not being 100% objective, though, it's not proof that he's pushing an "agenda" against certain players just because they're "foreign".

And the idea that he's been "found out" as a pundit because he failed in his ONE (very short lived) managerial stint (or stunt) is obviously very silly for all sorts of reasons.
 

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Are we not allowed to have a different opinion than someone else now? We have free speech in this country he can say what he likes. People are going way over the top with this. Get over it!
 

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People still want to look fondly at Neville with "He just cares too much!" rose-tinted glasses.

Gary Neville is clickbait with a high-pitched voice. Nothing of what he says carries any merit. He is rolled put by Sky, his string is pulled and "controversy" splatters out. Retweets, views and likes pour in. Job done.

Feck Gary Neville.
 

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He was one of my favourite Manchester United players and when he first started his punditry was a breath of fresh air. However, it seems like now, especially after his failed managerial stint that he's become a parody of himself.
Anyone that heard his rant post Wolves game about penalty takers where he analysed every little action of the players leading up to the penalties will agree his comments were an absolute embarrassment.
Quite frankly, he sounded like a fool ranting about "this is a manchester united penalty" and some of his ridiculous statements ran counter to the footage being player in front of him. Specifically, when he's saying how the players are arguing on the pitch about who's taking it when actually the replays show them doing one of their clique handshakes and looking perfectly at ease with one another.
 

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For the people who believe Neville only oversteps the mark with Pogba because he believes him to be unprofessional, and that he treats British players the same as foreign players what was his excuse for his attack on David Luiz years ago? Does anyone really believe he would have spoken of any British player in the same tone?
I remember questioning his bias when he did this and he’s done nothing since then to prove otherwise.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ds-respect-Gary-Neville-PlayStation-jibe.html
 

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He's generally been spot on with most of his punditry so I feel like this is an outlier more than the norm for him but we'll see what path he goes down.
 

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I would say Gary knows a whole lot more behind the scenes than anyone here. Gary Neville is one of the few pundits I like.
 

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I would say Gary knows a whole lot more behind the scenes than anyone here.
What about when people who know even more behind the scenes directly contradict him? I'm not sure he knows as much as he tries to let on.

Gary Neville is one of the few pundits I like.
Ideally, you shouldn't be liking or believing the words of any pundit really. They're usually not there to give any sort of informed, or objective take on things.
 

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I don't have an issue with Gary Neville voicing opinions as part of Sky, I have an issue with how shite he seems to be at analysis. The show seems to be cartoonish debate with Carragher rather than offer dispassionate analysis and tactical insight on the game. It's garbage and cliched.
 

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Why wouldn't it be?

Plenty of people on this forum hate Gary Neville passionately.

Pogba left the club once already and wanted to leave again this summer and even offered himself to City last year - yet it's ok to hate club legend of undisputed, 20 year loyalty but not Paul Pogba?
Who hates Neville?

Hating someone you don't even know is particularly sad IMO. And i'm glad I don't suffer from such episides of vitriol against our best player who is regarded as a fantastic person by all who know him.
 

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So you concede that Zidane is the only one who wants him. Why is it that no one knows anything about football unless you yourself say so? I could list a few clubs that could afford Pogba but couldn't be arsed even mentioning him this summer. Also, if Madrid fans jeer Ronaldo over his bullshit imagine what they would do to poor Paul. The fans of Pogba FC would have to go to war.
He's wanted by a manager who has won the Champions League 3x on the bounce and was one of the greatest players to ever grace the game. He knows much more about football compared to Florentino Perez and the spoilt Madrid fans. It's like backing Woodward and our fans over someone like Ole over a potential player transfer when Ole has already delivered multiple European Cups and even a League title in 3 seasons.

Juventus also want him as was reported by the reliable outlets in Italy. So that's two of the greatest clubs in world football wanting him.

Barca didn't need Pogba which is easy to see when you look at their squad. Bayern wouldn't pay the money we would want for him and have always been shrewd operators in the market. So tell me who these clubs are that could've bought him but didn't?

I don't think Pogba would be too worried about being jeered by some spoilt Madrid fans tbh.
 

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He's an excellent pundit, probably still the best on TV. He's doing the job he's been paid to do - Sky will be delighted with him.
 

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He's an excellent pundit, probably still the best on TV. He's doing the job he's been paid to do - Sky will be delighted with him.
In what way...?

Generating clicks, maybe - but in terms of offering insight into the game he offers very little these days.

His punditry is presently lowly. I'd rank Shearer and Murphy etc above Neville at this point as pundits, which says a lot.
 

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Gary Neville should be censured for his opinion but our largely rabid, nonsensical fanbase should be allowed to pollute the internet with their feckless wittering about transfers, Woodward and Jesse Lingard? What absolute bollox.
 

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In what way...?

Generating clicks, maybe - but in terms of offering insight into the game he offers very little these days.

His punditry is presently lowly. I'd rank Shearer and Murphy etc above Neville at this point as pundits, which says a lot.
Shearer! That's absolute madness. He is dreadful.
 

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Presently better than Neville imo.

For me only Souness would be immediately worse than G.Nev at the moment, oh and that Craig Burley guy...
Well, on this, I think we are in total agreement.

Can you honestly name three better pundits than Neville, though (don't say Shearer again!)
 

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Another thread about this. Can people understand few things?

1. Neville is no longer our player.
2. He is pundit/expert and his job is to give HIS opinion. It doesn't matter what other people think and he only speaks for himself.
3. He is former professional player in the club so you can argue that he knows one or two about the club and about winning.
4. If people have hard time listning to his comments then they should relax a little bit. There is lot of other things to get upset with in this world.
5. And if you dont want to listen and read then you don't have do that. There is also a mute button on control remote if you don't want to hear him.

I don't agree with him all the time and I have my own opinion but this anti-Neville agenda is just to much. Same that it was against Keane.
 

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One of the best pundits on television. Getting criticised as he is not brownnosing certain players all the time, like many supporters on football boards like this. How boring it would be if the only comments on TV were fawning over all the players however poor.
 
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Come on, really? He’s bound too, he’s not Jon Snow.
Everyone at the club including staff have always said Pogba is very professional and talks to everyone, Ole has also contradicted things Gary has said. The man is clearly a Jon Snow.
 

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I just dont agree with you, telling a legend to shut up?

He has every right to say what he thinks, and most of the time its not BS.
 

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It really isnt. I am paid in my job to advise people to make certain decisions that greatly affect how company does business. I see first hand how decisions by uninformed or uneducated persons can seriously impact on their profitability or decision making processes.
It's not dangerous to subdue freedom of speech?
 

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So who should we listen to. You?
The guy gave his life to the club, was smart enough and respectful enough to finish his own career when he knew he was done and is one of the best pundits in an industry of stupid cliches. He knows more about football and the running of a club than almost anyone else on tv.
Na mate, I respect Gary but he was way out of order on Monday-was quite taken aback by it myself. I don’t expect anyone to be an apologist for underperforming players but he went ballistic over a nothing issue and all it does is put pressure on the players
 
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You watch ex-Liverpool players talk about Liverpool, they always defend them, always praise them. And then always criticising United over every like detail. Gary seems to like to act like he was a Liverpool player too, is this to fit in? Because negative United stories generate clicks?
 

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To be fair Keane and Scholes have been much more disruptive towards United thrn Nev, but I always wonder if they feel they have to show criticism towards United being ex players which gives off like they are completely unbiased. But given Neville has more exposure and on the biggest platform then those 3 then yes i agree with the OP.