That's not a given
Alexis offered to Roma
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Why?
Let's just say I highly doubt this coaching team but I'm welcome to be proven wrong over time.
...or more games with Lingard as starter
The fact is, Sanchez is wretched. His legs have gone. It’s Rooney all over again. Energy, work rate and tenacity is what elevated them to world class players. Just like Rooney, there’ll be no recapturing old form, because you can’t get your legs back when they’ve gone. He won’t ever be able to play himself back into be anything close to what he once was; the very definition of a busted flush.
Whilst I agree we’ve left ourselves very thin on the ground in the attacking positions, that’s no reason to keep Sanchez. When you’ve got a player that is shot, if you’re offered the chance to get something, anything, in for them, you take it. I can absolutely guarantee, though, if he goes to Inter on loan, there is absolutely zero chance they’ll make it permanent.
Whilst I agree we’ve left ourselves very thin on the ground in the attacking positions, that’s no reason to keep Sanchez. When you’ve got a player that is shot, if you’re offered the chance to get something, anything, in for them, you take it. I can absolutely guarantee, though, if he goes to Inter on loan, there is absolutely zero chance they’ll make it permanent.
Edit: Misread. Edit2: Not really misread anyway. Improved on as in upgrading him by replacing him with a better player. Sanchez is, as I wrote, a downgrade.
Got to play someone mate, we can't start with 10 men.
Plus, it's a bit harsh to be judging how often the coaching team will play youth players when only 2 games of football have been played so far...
Ed somehow needs to convince Conte that Alexis plays better with Rojo and Mata.
It's more than 2 games for me and my gripe concerns more than just playing youngsters decent minutes. I just don't rate Ole generally speaking. I hope to have my opinion changed over the course of the season.
All it's going to take is for Rashford or Martial to pull a hamstring or something and Llorente will be here in January on a free, or Mandzukic for a lot more than we would have bought him for in the summer. This isn't me advocating Sanchez staying, I hate his presence here. Its me highlighting how poorly planned our summer was yet again - we had every intention of shipping both Lukaku and Sanchez but didn't secure a replacement for either to provide us with the necessary squad depth to compete.
Lukaku is being replaced by Greenwood, Sanchez been replaced by James.
Not really.
LW: Martial/James/Chong
ST: Rashford/Martial/Greenwood
RW: Lingard/James/Greenwood
10: Pereira/Mata/Lingard/Gomes
That's 6 senior players and 3 youth players. At least 3 options per position.
We could bring in Llorente on a free whenever we want. Don't have to wait untill January. That is unless he signs somewhere else of course. I actually think we might bring him in as soon as we ditch Sanchez, but even if we don't all it means is more chances for youth players like Gomes and Greenwood. Would that really be such a big deal considering they're highly rated and everyone on here is calling for them to get more minutes?
Oh I agree with you here. Like @Fer says, it's equally likely we'll be seeing more of Lingard as a starter.
They might even decide to play Young as a left winger. Who knows? Only time will tell.
Transfer window has passed mate. We need the upgrade now. It’s the only obvious reason I’m saying we hold him till January. No matter how bad sanchez is I’ll still take him over lingard because we haven’t given him a run in the middle under Ole consistently.
Well, mate. Transfer window is a totally different discussion. Based on Alexis Sanchez last two seasons, Lingard is comfortably a better player, which was my initial point. Sanchez has been shit for two years now. Lingard is decent, but nothing more. He'll be replaced within a couple of windows.
Has he left yet?
Now this would be a poll worthy of the caf (Lingard vs Sanchez)
Lingard will obviously win because he isn’t sitting on his ass taking home 500k/wk. mind you I’m only all for Sanchez because the window has closed and if we take a chance on him in the middle and it works out the positives are better than sticking with lingard who isn’t a good playmaker.
It’s also interesting how everyone’s ignoring the fact we haven’t tried Sanchez down the middle in a position most people thought he would exceed even under mourinho. I even remember him scoring through the middle in preseason last year. Now we are under Ole and are lacking quality after another poorly planned transfer window. Yet we are willing to let him go?
All I’m asking is we stick with him till the January window before letting him go. That way we can bring in a quality midfielder that can support our attack.
I will bet any money that James and Greenwood combined will not score the 12 goals that Lukaku contributed last season.
Criminal squad management. No matter which way you cut it, Ole has been sold down the river in terms of his squad. He can say what he likes, he thought he was at least getting Mandzukic and potentially Dybala too. He ended up with neither and still lost Lukaku. Indefensible behaviour from the board and Ole's positive words for the cameras do not mask the FACT that he was told he might be getting 2 replacement forwards for Lukaku. FACT.
Dog walking is underrated tbh
I feel you man, I'm not far from thinking the same, my opinion changes a lot on the subject. For what it's worth, I'd take Sanchez ahead of Lingard in that role
This opportunity might not come around again in January. If we don't sell him now who else will be daft enough to take him? Inter are the only ones interested.
If we can get a fee for him and do a deal on the wages it'll save us a fortune. Far less riskier than hoping by some miracle he might suddenly become a good player again.
The guy's clearly not mentally interested in being here, best to cut our ties.
Same for me. Opinion changes all the time. Sometime I feel we should offload him no matter what, sometimes I start to worry about depth and also "can he be worse than Lingard".
Maybe in the longer run it's better to offload him now and take a short term hit.
You leave Atom and Humber out of this!
Exactly, which means we’ve upgraded the team and our financial situation at the same time, outstanding business.
But like the poster said, if both get hit it suddenly it becomes:
LW: James/Chong
ST: Greenwood
RW: Lingard/Chong
10: Pereira/Mata/Lingard/Gomes
(Took James and Greenwood off RW as James would go LW and Greenwood ST)
Suddenly it all looks very sparse. I’m all for giving the kids a chance as Greenwood and Gomes especially look class, but that is a lot of pressure to put on them.
Why isn't this potential transfer in the transfer forum?
Nope. Lingard can play false 9. Gomes can play LW. Pereira and Mata can also fill in on the wings. It would mean a more possession based style of play but we have the numbers. And yes we would be asking something of our youth players but let's be honest, this is a hypothetical emergency situation where both our strikers are injured at the same time. The chances of this happening are slim. It's no shame to have to fall back on youth players in such a situation. It's how Rashford got his chance.
What are Inter Milan thinking exactly?
Ah Man Utd - they had a terrible season - what attackers didn't have a good season for them? Ah Lukaku and Sanchez, perfect - get them in!!
Ah Man Utd - they had a terrible season - what attackers didn't have a good season for them? Ah Lukaku and Sanchez, perfect - get them in!!
Reminds me of when Chelsea took Falcao after the shit show we saw at united, it was like they were trying to prove they were a better run club and would show they knew how to get the best out of him.
Tbf it might work out for them in Serie A. The standard is definitely lower than epl
Aye I can see a method in their madness, I expect Lukaku to bag a few not sure about Sanchez though I get the feeling that juicy contract has put him into semi-retirement mode.
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I will bet you any money that Greenwood and James won’t lose-the-ball/require-4-touches-to-control-it more than the 4,768 times Lukaku did last season combined.
They also weigh less combined. FACT.
I’d have liked at least one more in but we’ve brought in 3 that look like good characters and shipped out 1, hopefully soon to be 2, overrated (or over the hill in Sanchez’s case) utter bell ends. We look better so far, and frankly, more like United
Sanchez is our Bale
We have no other players ? Front 4 we have rashford martial James andreas Mata lingard. At a push pogba can play second striker? We have packed schedules they will play mins out of necessity
Although Bale without the talent.
Lingard can run around and provide absolutely nothing off note in any position tbf. I am happy for Alex to go but let's not suggest Lingard as a replacement.
Atleast Bale contributes
Bale already has an assist for this season. All we have had from Alexis is shots of Atom and Humber on social media.