Romelu Lukaku claims he was scapegoated with two other players at Manchester United

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There's no real connection between the 3 he's mentioned. Pogba definitely has been a scapegoat at times but Sanchez? People have basically forgotten about him. He was given about a years worth of 'maybe he'll come good now' before going straight to forgotten, there was no real scapegoating of him at any point. Most players have been scapegoated at one point or another in recent years, so you could pick out pretty much any 3. Lukaku is closer to Fellaini really, he wasn't a very good player so was never going to be that popular. I grew to like Fellaini though for the same reasons I'm growing to dislike Lukaku.
 

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I don't think Lukaku was anymore scapegoated than any of the other United players who failed to live up to their billing.

I do however believe we played him in the wrong role, he was never going to be a C/F that received the ball with his back to the opponents goal and was then required to play others in, he didn't have the physique or the technique for that. Lukaku was best having the ball played over his head or in the channels for him to run onto, or as he did do effectively on a few occasions, drift out on the right wing, take the ball on the half turn then turn the full back or cut in towards goal, he was fairly dangerous in such situations; however our general style of attacking play didn't suit him and he's better off out of it. I wish him luck at his new club.
 

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I don't think Lukaku was anymore scapegoated than any of the other United players who failed to live up to their billing.

I do however believe we played him in the wrong role, he was never going to be a C/F that received the ball with his back to the opponents goal and was then required to play others in, he didn't have the physique or the technique for that. Lukaku was best having the ball played over his head or in the channels for him to run onto, or as he did do effectively on a few occasions, drift out on the right wing, take the ball on the half turn then turn the full back or cut in towards goal, he was fairly dangerous in such situations; however our general style of attacking play didn't suit him and he's better off out of it. I wish him luck at his new club.
I kind of agree, but we dont get the opportunities really to make use of that. Except against teams like City or Arsenal who he tended not to do particularly well against.
 

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I don't like him as a player but he's telling the truth about feeling like he wasn't protected.
Wut! He was hardly made the scapegoat here. Maybe if he stopped drooling over the thought of playing in Italy, he might have been more liked as well
 

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There's no real connection between the 3 he's mentioned. Pogba definitely has been a scapegoat at times but Sanchez? People have basically forgotten about him. He was given about a years worth of 'maybe he'll come good now' before going straight to forgotten, there was no real scapegoating of him at any point. Most players have been scapegoated at one point or another in recent years, so you could pick out pretty much any 3. Lukaku is closer to Fellaini really, he wasn't a very good player so was never going to be that popular. I grew to like Fellaini though for the same reasons I'm growing to dislike Lukaku.
Fellaini honestly deserves more appreciation, especially the way he has conducted himself. I don't remember many of our players who were booed by match going fans. He has been booed not once but on numerous occasion and yet he has acted professionally.
 

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He should actually stay in the US, McDonalds, Burger King and other shit wonderland for him. If he's still there I hope airlines decline his boarding due to his excessive weight.
:lol: I'll bet he's here by the time he hits 30. He'll probably have a fully American accent by then too :smirk:
 

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Don't think he's that fondly remembered by Everton fans either, is he? When we bought him there were people saying (unfairly perhaps?) that he used to score lots of goals when Everton were already winning games and that he was never a massive game changer. Can't remember him scoring in many Mersyside derby games either- Edit just checked, 3 goals in 8 games.
 

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Lukaku is absolutely right. Those three players do get a disproportionate amount of blame because of their transfer fees and salaries. It’s stupid. You don’t see similar behavior in other businesses. “We had a bad year here at McDonald’s because of Marge. It’s all her fault. She got a hundred pounds up front to join from Gregg’s and makes a pound more per hour than Bill, so Bill is not responsible.” Last I checked it’s a team game and success or failure is a team result.
 

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All the while I've never thought he showed a bad attitude on the pitch, there's some good examples there of how he did his best for us while he was here. It just soured badly in his second season when he turned up unfit, looked too often to be struggling to do the basics then popping up in the media talking about Serie A. I don't hate the bloke but it's so telling that most of us are happy to see him leave, pleased with recouping the money and looking forward to seeing who we get next. The move has got all the hallmarks of one that works for all parties.
Looks like somebody could not handle one of his team mates won the world cup and he did not. He fell off a cliff the season after.
 

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I felt a bit bad for the guy. I don't anymore. If he thinks Italians are going to be nicer about things he probably has a new thing coming.

I'd argue Lingard and Martial got more abuse than he did in a way. Or hell, several of our players, and yes that includes Pogba. But they typically respond on the pitch - Rom didn't. He d get eaten alive in the US if he would be a celebrity here. In other words - is criticism way over the top many times - it sure is. But it's not just woe is me when you play for United.
 

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He sounds like he is on verge of joining a club and now doing PR exercise to make sure they dont change their minds.
 

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Ole doesn't believe in Lukaku and Conte does. If Ole really wanted Lukaku, he would have stayed and fought for his place. He said that himself.
 

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Lukaku is absolutely right. Those three players do get a disproportionate amount of blame because of their transfer fees and salaries. It’s stupid. You don’t see similar behavior in other businesses. “We had a bad year here at McDonald’s because of Marge. It’s all her fault. She got a hundred pounds up front to join from Gregg’s and makes a pound more per hour than Bill, so Bill is not responsible.” Last I checked it’s a team game and success or failure is a team result.
Weird analogy.

Multi nationals like Mcdonalds wouldn't even put their employees on decent contracts
 

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Lukaku is absolutely right. Those three players do get a disproportionate amount of blame because of their transfer fees and salaries. It’s stupid. You don’t see similar behavior in other businesses. “We had a bad year here at McDonald’s because of Marge. It’s all her fault. She got a hundred pounds up front to join from Gregg’s and makes a pound more per hour than Bill, so Bill is not responsible.” Last I checked it’s a team game and success or failure is a team result.
Obviously if you're getting paid the amount Alexis does, then you're going to expect greater production from him than from the likes of Lingard. When such expectations are so spectacularly not met, it's hardly surprising that criticism follows.
 

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Lukaku is absolutely right. Those three players do get a disproportionate amount of blame because of their transfer fees and salaries. It’s stupid. You don’t see similar behavior in other businesses. “We had a bad year here at McDonald’s because of Marge. It’s all her fault. She got a hundred pounds up front to join from Gregg’s and makes a pound more per hour than Bill, so Bill is not responsible.” Last I checked it’s a team game and success or failure is a team result.
Yeah because life doesn't revolve around Mcdonalds for one

If one person in a sales team earns much higher than the rest but does close to nothing, i doubt the others will be happy, including management
 

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All the while I've never thought he showed a bad attitude on the pitch, there's some good examples there of how he did his best for us while he was here. It just soured badly in his second season when he turned up unfit, looked too often to be struggling to do the basics then popping up in the media talking about Serie A. I don't hate the bloke but it's so telling that most of us are happy to see him leave, pleased with recouping the money and looking forward to seeing who we get next. The move has got all the hallmarks of one that works for all parties.
I agree for the most part. I wanted him here and was happy that we signed him, I was even fairly content after his first season thinking that with better service he will improve. He gave his best on the pitch, but his best kept getting worse and worse hampered by his own lack of fitness. I'd have had no ill feelings about it not working out here, but he's been such a bitch about it that I kind of want to see him fail now in Italy too. Which I acknowledge is fairly petty of me. It's not even his performances or how he got into the shape he did, it's him running his mouth.
 

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When we were deciding between Morata and him I knew whoever we chose we'd get an overpriced mediocre striker but I liked Lukaku better. He was decent for Everton and showed in his first season with us that he can be very useful.
But the way he ballooned was just stupid and irresponsible. I don't care if it's not fat but muscle. Whatever it is, it made him a worse player, one that don't work as hard as he should without the ball and one that can't control simple balls.

It's mostly his fault that he failed here.
Agreed on all points.
When he was getting heavier and clearly struggling during matches, why on Earth did he not lose weight?
Was he comfort eating (making it near impossible for him to lose weight)?
 

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Regarding the interview, what's wrong with French players celebrating winning the WC despite them not being picked for the squad?

So only those who played can celebrate? Someone better tell the other few million French people.
 

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Lukaku is absolutely right. Those three players do get a disproportionate amount of blame because of their transfer fees and salaries. It’s stupid. You don’t see similar behavior in other businesses. “We had a bad year here at McDonald’s because of Marge. It’s all her fault. She got a hundred pounds up front to join from Gregg’s and makes a pound more per hour than Bill, so Bill is not responsible.” Last I checked it’s a team game and success or failure is a team result.
Have you seen the heat the likes of Smalling, Jones, Lingard and Matic get? Then look at the likes of Shaw, Bailly, Young, McT, Fred and Mata! He got as much criticism as the rest of the squad, the only player who got the worst in terms of criticism and abuse was Pogba. Maybe he is too self centered to look at the shit others have thrown at them or he is just soft.
 

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He had a first touch of donkey. He was 104 kgs but still could not dominate the opposition defenders. He is foul mouthed player who is a mourinho legacy and was never suitable for modern game.
 

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“No, no, dear god, no” was my response to us signing him as I knew he was little more than Darren Bent on steroids. People point at his goal record and say “look, he must be class, he’s Belgium’s top scorer ever” but don’t realise that he’s scored all his goals against Gibraltar and the Faroe Islands and the sum total of c*ck all against anyone in the world’s top 30 nations.
When he first signed, people were raving over him as he scored every game to begin with, but we had the gentlest fixture list imaginable to start and as soon as he came up against quality opposition his abysmal lack of touch was shown up.
This is what frustrates me the most about him, because he’s such a unit, he shields the ball when he fails to trap it, so he doesn’t technically lose possession as he takes 3 or 4 touches to control it, but it slows down the attack every bloody time.
As I’ve said repeatedly, if he played for Pep, he’d be transfer listed before lunch on day one.
There’s only 2 united players I’ve genuinely disliked in over 30 years of supporting them; Michael Owen (for obvious reasons) and Romelu Lukaku. I never thought anyone could take Mickey’s crown, but all this cry-baby stuff is starting to run him close. I’m so very, very glad he’s gone.
 

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What the feck is Lakaku on about he was fecking shite last year. Ive seen walrus' with better fecking ball skills than that useless cnut. Of course he is blamed. Hes the starting number 9. Twat!
 

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What the feck is Lakaku on about he was fecking shite last year. Ive seen walrus' with better fecking ball skills than that useless cnut. Of course he is blamed. Hes the starting number 9. Twat!
Sign him up Woody!
 

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Lukaku should watch a video of himself playing.

I have seen brick walls with better first touches and Turtles with higher vertical leaps.

"So is it me?"
Oh Feck off.

Worst first touch any United Striker ever had and a disgrace to the red shirt alongwith many others.

I hope Ole is ruthless and we get rid some of the others as well in next transfer window (of the likes of Lingard, Perrera, Matic, Mata, Rojo, Jones, Sanchez and Bailly).
If you planted a tree up front and bounced the ball off of it .... id say that tree could ping some nice passes down the channel's the odd time.
Its control would be brutal in General and a complete lack of first touch would be evident. But.... the odd time the ball will go where it's makes a difference.

Thats the Lukaku tree.
One of the most unlikable personalities in football.

Utter bellend
First touch of an AT-AT.
Everton fan's disliked him for the same reasons we did. All talk about how he's too big for Everton and constantly name checking bigger clubs, while having the first touch of a baby elephant.
He had a first touch of donkey. He was 104 kgs but still could not dominate the opposition defenders. He is foul mouthed player who is a mourinho legacy and was never suitable for modern game.
What the feck is Lakaku on about he was fecking shite last year. Ive seen walrus' with better fecking ball skills than that useless cnut. Of course he is blamed. Hes the starting number 9. Twat!
Take your pick as to the most accurate description of Lukaku's ...er...touch!:lol:
 

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I didn't think we were signing such a delicate chap. Thank God we got rid when we did.
 

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just got around to listening to the whole podcast and I don't think he said anything bad about United or anything that wrong. Did people even listen to what he said or were going by what the media took out of context? All he said was he wasn't given assurances about his place in the United team whether its bench or first team thus he had to make a decision to leave. He even said if he was told he would be on the bench, he was ready to fight for his place. He also didn't say he was the best player with the best touch but he was good facing the goal and could have contributed to the team Ole is trying to create as he has done with Belgium. He said he along with Sanchez and Pogba were made scapegoats for the team's failure and not that he had it worst which is quite true, you only have to look at the caf and the media around that time. Of course, he didn't deny he wasn't playing well and people have higher expectations of them but still, no one can deny they were made a scapegoat.

Also people mocking him about picking up an American accent. As a multilingual person myself, I know its very easy to subconciosuly pick up accent when you are around that. So I don't know why anyone is mocking that as he was in LA doing that podcast and probably had been there during the summer.
 

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just got around to listening to the whole podcast and I don't think he said anything bad about United or anything that wrong. Did people even listen to what he said or were going by what the media took out of context? All he said was he wasn't given assurances about his place in the United team whether its bench or first team thus he had to make a decision to leave. He even said if he was told he would be on the bench, he was ready to fight for his place. He also didn't say he was the best player with the best touch but he was good facing the goal and could have contributed to the team Ole is trying to create as he has done with Belgium. He said he along with Sanchez and Pogba were made scapegoats for the team's failure and not that he had it worst which is quite true, you only have to look at the caf and the media around that time. Of course, he didn't deny he wasn't playing well and people have higher expectations of them but still, no one can deny they were made a scapegoat.

Also people mocking him about picking up an American accent. As a multilingual person myself, I know its very easy to subconciosuly pick up accent when you are around that. So I don't know why anyone is mocking that as he was in LA doing that podcast and probably had been there during the summer.
No one bothered to listen to the podcast because it would threaten to change the negative opinion they had before it was even released.
 

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If this big lump was scapegoated then Fellaini was murdered. Even our own "fans" booed him at Old Trafford in a friendly game when he was probably the most determined player in our squad and always gave his all. He kept his head down and never sulked on the pitch. His goal in the last minute was a good slap in those idiot's faces.

On the other hand we have a "grown ass man" who can not dealt with the fact that he has clear deficiencies to be a top level striker and refuses to accept it. Ole's best decision since he came was to make Martial/Rashford his no1 striker and marginalise this guy.

Wake the feck up Romelu. You're not as good as you think you are.
 

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No one bothered to listen to the podcast because it would threaten to change the negative opinion they had before it was even released.
Facts. You can say that about every thread on here recently.
 

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He's the player's version of David Moyes. We'll be hearing about his unfair treatment at United for years :lol:

Grown ass man, more like grown ass baby. :lol:
Moyes' case was more acceptable since his management career went down the toilet after getting the sack from ManUnited and He became a football joke for everyone.

Lukaku just got paid a hefty sum amount of money to play for Inter under Conte, a manager that fancies him and He still came up with this crap instead of talking about his new club. Sums up just how insecure He is, wouldn't surprise me if He cuts onions looking at picture of Jose at night.
 

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The gall of him to turn around with arms out looking for answers from people after the first goal.

Useless lump of shit.
He well knows he fecked it up but trying to deflect the blame exactly like his boss. They are very much alike in that sense. That's why he could "run through walls for him".
 

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I'm telling you guys, this guy was like the hidden poison in this club. He was the reason our players, especially pogba, would half ass things.
 

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Here's the whole interview in case anyone's interested.

The relevant stuff starts around the 45 minutes mark.
 
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He should have been shipped to reserves for his comments before Barcelona game. Club is sometimes so soft.
 
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No one bothered to listen to the podcast because it would threaten to change the negative opinion they had before it was even released.
As if that's going to change anything. If we rate players by their words, then Lukaku will be world class player and one of the best of his generation.

Even if he says something in this interview, it won't change what he said back in October, his agent in April and again Lukaku in June.

Your selective memory is hilarious.
 

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Also remember reading none of the ManUtd players wished him on social media, if that's true then sort of sums up the situation.