Paul Pogba player of the year 2019-2020

manunited1919 · Aug 23, 2019

I believe Paul Pogba will continue playing the way he has played in the first 2 games and improve his consistency, and he will finally shut out Gary fxxxng Neville and all the media critics.

Paul Pogba is a beast of a player and will be a Ballon d’Or contender within the next 3 years. I hope we are able to keep hold of him and see the return of glory days.

Do any of you see it?

gerdm07 · Aug 23, 2019

It's possible because he is that talented. However, there are a number of other very talented players so he will have plenty of competition.

WireMUFC · Aug 23, 2019

manunited1919 said:
I believe Paul Pogba will continue playing the way he has played in the first 2 games and improve his consistency, and he will finally shut out Gary fxxxng Neville and all the media critics.

Paul Pogba is a beast of a player and will be a Ballon d’Or contender within the next 3 years. I hope we are able to keep hold of him and see the return of glory days.

Do any of you see it?

Who did Gary Neville pick to win PL player of the year? You got any idea?

RedTiger · Aug 23, 2019

manunited1919 said:
I believe Paul Pogba will continue playing the way he has played in the first 2 games and improve his consistency, and he will finally shut out Gary fxxxng Neville and all the media critics.

Paul Pogba is a beast of a player and will be a Ballon d’Or contender within the next 3 years. I hope we are able to keep hold of him and see the return of glory days.

Do any of you see it?

I can. I've always seen it.

meamth · Aug 23, 2019

I rate Pogba, but I rate KDB even higher. The Belgian Beckham+Scholes easily is the best PL player.

Amarsdd · Aug 23, 2019

manunited1919 said:
I believe Paul Pogba will continue playing the way he has played in the first 2 games and improve his consistency, and he will finally shut out Gary fxxxng Neville and all the media critics.

Paul Pogba is a beast of a player and will be a Ballon d’Or contender within the next 3 years. I hope we are able to keep hold of him and see the return of glory days.

Do any of you see it?

guess what! Gary thinks the same

WireMUFC · Aug 23, 2019

Amarsdd said:
guess what? Gary thinks the same

I wanted him to answer my question :lol:

VJ1762 · Aug 23, 2019

I think it wil be a player from city/liverpool. It might even be an arsenal player, who I think are the dark horses in the title race this year.

Ludens the Red · Aug 23, 2019

WireMUFC said:
Who did Gary Neville pick to win PL player of the year? You got any idea?

Haha, I don’t know what’s funnier, the op’s obliviousness to Neville saying Pogba would be player of the year or Neville thinking Pogba is going to be the player of the year.

Eddy_JukeZ · Aug 23, 2019

PFA Player of the Year?

Doubt it.

WireMUFC · Aug 23, 2019

Leroy The Red said:
Haha, I don’t know what’s funnier, the op’s obliviousness to Neville saying Pogba would be player of the year or Neville thinking Pogba is going to be the player of the year.

manunited1919 · Aug 23, 2019

WireMUFC said:
Who did Gary Neville pick to win PL player of the year? You got any idea?

So Gary Neville plays both sides of the aisle? I didn’t know that he could waffle so quickly. Thanks for the heads up. Pogba still needs to shut the fexxxr up. Gary leads the criticism of Pogba at every opportunity.

Man of Leisure · Aug 23, 2019

I like Pogba but not sure if he's even the favorite to win the club's player of the year, never mind the league's.

lewwoo · Aug 23, 2019

I hope so because it will mean he is switching it on in the majority of games over the course of the season.

manunited1919 · Aug 23, 2019

Amarsdd said:
guess what! Gary thinks the same

So what if he thinks the same. He still puts his studs into Pogba at any chance he gets. Pogba needs to shine to shut the obnoxious Neville.

Steven7290 · Aug 23, 2019

manunited1919 said:
So what if he thinks the same. He still puts his studs into Pogba at any chance he gets. Pogba needs to shine to shut the obnoxious Neville.

how would it shut him up? if he shines and wins POTY then Neville would be proven right and if anything would open his mouth even more obnoxiously.

amolbhatia50k · Aug 23, 2019

He will not win player of the year.

Also, Neville appeared to say that either to appear balanced/positive or to highlight his expectation from Pogba as a player. Doubt he really believes he'll win it, and I'm sure he'll come down hardest on him as soon as anything goes wrong, as usual.

Amarsdd · Aug 23, 2019

manunited1919 said:
So what if he thinks the same. He still puts his studs into Pogba at any chance he gets. Pogba needs to shine to shut the obnoxious Neville.

I don't understand why people can't get it into their heads. When you are THE big player of the team/the center-piece/the center of attention then you are always bound to get the brunt of the criticism. When Argentina is not doing well Messi gets the most criticism. When United weren't doing well in Rooney's later years, he got the brunt of the criticism. Its the same in other areas like a business, organization etc. Of course, Gary gets more passionate about it as he's a United fan and he wants the team to do well and Pogba is critical to it. Just look at the matchday threads or threads after a match in which the whole team is subpar, I can guarantee you most of the criticism will be directed towards Pogba.

I would understand if you were criticizing someone like Souness for his criticism of Pogba which sometimes gets non-sensical, but with Gary, I don't understand it at all.

Amadaeus · Aug 23, 2019

In a midfield two? I doubt it. As a free roaming number 10 in a midfield three? Definitely. Pogba showed last season the level he can reach when played in his favorite position. That level can get him ballon d’dor. However, in a midfield two, he seems restricted.

RedRonaldo · Aug 23, 2019

No doubt Pogba has the talent, but consistency is hardest thing to achieve, the one thing which separates between Ballon D’or winner or just good player.

elmo · Aug 23, 2019

I'll believe it when he actually plays well for more than 1/3 of the season.

Micky Targaryen · Aug 23, 2019

Amarsdd said:
I don't understand why people can't get it into their heads. When you are THE big player of the team/the center-piece/the center of attention then you are always bound to get the brunt of the criticism. When Argentina is not doing well Messi gets the most criticism. When United weren't doing well in Rooney's later years, he got the brunt of the criticism. Its the same in other areas like a business, organization etc. Of course, Gary gets more passionate about it as he's a United fan and he wants the team to do well and Pogba is critical to it. Just look at the matchday threads or threads after a match in which the whole team is subpar, I can guarantee you most of the criticism will be directed towards Pogba.

I would understand if you were criticizing someone like Souness for his criticism of Pogba which sometimes gets non-sensical, but with Gary, I don't understand it at all.

There's that and there's also the question as to why people take it so personally when said player gets criticism. You'd wonder if the OP has Pogba posters plastered all over his bedroom. Criticism works 2 ways, it either motivates you or makes you crumble. If it's the latter in regards to Pogba, then he isn't Player of the Year material.

WR10 · Aug 23, 2019

Pogba playing = we have a chance finishing top 4
Pogba not playing = we might - at best - finish 8th.

That’s how important he is. Of course he can be player of the year

finneh · Aug 23, 2019

He'll be behind Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and De Gea at a minimum I believe (as he was in the first two games).

Whether he'll also be behind Shaw and Lindelof as was the case last season remains to be seen.

Classical Mechanic · Aug 23, 2019

I don't see it no. I probably wouldn't even make him favourite to win player of the year at United because I doubt he'll start performing in big games and iron out all the other bottom level games he plays in a season.

I just don't see him winning the Ballon D'Or ever, no matter who he plays for.

Falcow · Aug 23, 2019

The overeating of pogba on this forum is unbelievable. Neither klopp or pep would have him in their side's as they require their players to work really hard something which unfortunately he is just not capable of doing. Two very good assists to be fair in opening game but apart from that he has been poor. I hope he wins player of the year but I'll be shocked if he is anywhere near consistent enough to do it.

Canagel · Aug 23, 2019

No, because every world class players needs great players to play with him him. He doesn't have the support and quality around him in midfield to get considered for the big individual awards. As simple as that. He already knows this which is why he wants to leave.
He doesnt have to prove anything new about his quality. There are already enough accolades next to his name that speak for themselves, those that his detractors could only dream to have.

roonster09 · Aug 23, 2019

Falcow said:
The overeating of pogba on this forum is unbelievable. Neither klopp or pep would have him in their side's as they require their players to work really hard something which unfortunately he is just not capable of doing. Two very good assists to be fair in opening game but apart from that he has been poor. I hope he wins player of the year but I'll be shocked if he is anywhere near consistent enough to do it.

He is anything but poor. He had 2 good games. That's the problem with people's expectations. Pogba should keep creating chances for 90 mins, otherwise it's a poor game.

Also what Klopp or Pep wants is just your assumption, it's as good as me saying they would make Pogba their captain and highest paid player in the history of the sport. Both statements cant be proved. We don't even know what role they would ask Pogba to play, especially Pep who would have been dream manager for Pogba.

Conte who makes his team work like donkeys never had problem with Pogba. So all this "Klopp, Pep wouldn't play him" is all just nonsense.

Adam-Utd · Aug 23, 2019

Falcow said:
The overeating of pogba on this forum is unbelievable. Neither klopp or pep would have him in their side's as they require their players to work really hard something which unfortunately he is just not capable of doing. Two very good assists to be fair in opening game but apart from that he has been poor. I hope he wins player of the year but I'll be shocked if he is anywhere near consistent enough to do it.

What was poor about his 2 performances? he dominated the match against Wolves and had a fairly normal game against chelsea in the first half, then got 2 beautiful assists.

That's anything but poor.

Falcow · Aug 23, 2019

roonster09 said:
He is anything but poor. He had 2 good games. That's the problem with people's expectations. Pogba should keep creating chances for 90 mins, otherwise it's a poor game.

Also what Klopp or Pep wants is just your assumption, it's as good as me saying they would make Pogba their captain and highest paid player in the history of the sport. Both statements cant be proved. We don't even know what role they would ask Pogba to play, especially Pep who would have been dream manager for Pogba.

Conte who makes his team work like donkeys never had problem with Pogba. So all this "Klopp, Pep wouldn't play him" is all just nonsense.

Fair enough we cant prove whether or not pep or klopp would play him but I'm very certain that his ball retention and work rate would need to improve significantly under pep as neither have been good enough since he arrived at united(as for pep being his dream manager...seriously? Pep would treat him similar to Toure in my view) Also I dont expect him to create chances for the 90 mins but yes I would have higher expectations for a player who was recently the most expensive in the world and who should now be in his prime. For supposedly one of the best midfielders in the world he doesnt seem to be good enough to play in a midfield two and as for him being player of the year well he probably needs to become uniteds best player over the course of a full season first something which he hasn't come anywhere near to doing yet.

Mcking · Aug 23, 2019

Falcow said:
The overeating of pogba on this forum is unbelievable. Neither klopp or pep would have him in their side's as they require their players to work really hard something which unfortunately he is just not capable of doing. Two very good assists to be fair in opening game but apart from that he has been poor. I hope he wins player of the year but I'll be shocked if he is anywhere near consistent enough to do it.

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Good thing we've got a Klopp-Pep wannabe as manager now. Pogba's doing pretty well so far.

Falcow · Aug 23, 2019

Adam-Utd said:
What was poor about his 2 performances? he dominated the match against Wolves and had a fairly normal game against chelsea in the first half, then got 2 beautiful assists.

That's anything but poor.

You really need to watch that chelsea game again. If pogba was the midfielder people on here make him out to be then there wouldn't be the urgency for bringing in two more midfielders but there is that urgency.

Right I'd love to debate this further but I've reached my 3 strike limit for the day. Let's hope he proves me wrong and makes the balon dor short list this year or next.

Kostur · Aug 23, 2019

No, unless he stops being inconsistent as he has always been there will be somebody who's going to be here with lower ability but with more consistent input to our season which will contribute more to our success (as in, finishing 6th of course) than spurs every now and then.

JohnnyChimpo · Aug 23, 2019

WireMUFC said:
I wanted him to answer my question

WireMUFC said:
Who did Gary Neville pick to win PL player of the year? You got any idea?

Gary Neville picked KDB to win the Player of the Year. He picked Pogba as a "One to Watch".

I'm just a newbie and havnt figured out how to embed images, but the link is here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ir...ary-neville-jamie-carragher-make-18966645.amp

I've heard numerous times over the week that Neville predicted Pogba to be POTY - but that's not true. He said Pogba is a one to watch and that he could be player of the year, but didn't actually predict it. Both Neville and Carragher went with KDB.

Classical Mechanic · Aug 23, 2019

Mcking said:
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Good thing we've got a Klopp-Pep wannabe as manager now. Pogba's doing pretty well so far.

Statman Dave is a retweet whore. This might give you the impression that he's been making loads of tackles and interceptions when he's actually made a paltry 2 across two games.

I can only assume this relates to 'ball recoveries' where he's picking up balls that have gone loose?

Pogba actually turned the ball over to Chelsea 24 times on the opening day. I'd guess that could be a record, or close to it, for a central midfielder in the PL this season.

Mcking · Aug 23, 2019

Classical Mechanic said:
Statman Dave is a retweet whore. This might give you the impression that he's been making loads of tackles and interceptions when he's actually made a paltry 2 across two games.

I can only assume this relates to 'ball recoveries' where he's picking up balls that have gone loose?

Pogba actually turned the ball over to Chelsea 24 times on the opening day. I'd guess that could be a record, or close to it, for a central midfielder in the PL this season.

If the stat is correct, then he's doing well to get to them loose balls more than any other player in the league. Dunno how losing possession against Chelsea fits in here though.

Classical Mechanic · Aug 23, 2019

Mcking said:
If the stat is correct, then he's doing well to get to them loose balls more than any other player in the league. Dunno how losing possession against Chelsea fits in here though.

Is he though, or is it as a DLP he's the player in position to collect them? Him turnover the ball so much against Chelsea is relevant because it shows the pronounced negatives in his game too. He was better in that regard against Wolves because they sat off but still made two hospital passes that led to Wolves having attacks on goals.

Beagle · Aug 23, 2019

It might happen. Same way as anything under the sun might happen. But it's very very unlikely.

The amount of times he gives the ball away cheaply is his biggest problem. He did this quite a few times against Chelsea. Looked like he was out on a stroll.

finneh · Aug 23, 2019

Beagle said:
It might happen. Same way as anything under the sun might happen. But it's very very unlikely.

The amount of times he gives the ball away cheaply is his biggest problem. He did this quite a few times against Chelsea. Looked like he was out on a stroll.

One of the reasons I think Wan-Bissaka is one to watch for us. The amount of times already this season that Pogba has lost possession on the right of midfield with the opposition breaking but the former has won it back against the odds.

With Young at right back I highly doubt we'd be winning at half time Vs Chelsea for example, which changes the dynamic of the second half.

EireRed_GS · Aug 23, 2019

Its definitely very possible considering his potential.. But he would need to be quite consistent, with the rest of the team performing pretty decent around him,. But he has shown me nothing to say he can be consistent himself, and after the end of last season I don't have much confidence in the rest of them when the going gets tough.

On top of him almost certainly going to go missing for a good few games, and the fact he doesn't even want to be there. Id say nah.. not gonna happen.

Hope i'm proved wrong and he puts his head down & gives it a good go. Im not confident though

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