Been so shit ever since he hit someone in the nets.English cricket thread
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Been so shit ever since he hit someone in the nets.Now if England can just nip a quick eight or nine more out...
Just tuned in to the game. What happened to England, I thought the pitch was meant to be ok for batting today?
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Can't drop Roy for the 4th test.
2nd highest scorer in the innings.
2nd highest scorer in the innings.
It's seaming, not swinging, although England seem to be getting it to talk a bit through the air right now. And England are bad at batting.
Is the time away from Test cricket what's affecting Warner so badly?
He's never been much good outside of Australia, especially in England, but he's never been this bad before.
He's never been much good outside of Australia, especially in England, but he's never been this bad before.
He hasn't been that great since coming back. Even in this year's IPL he looked rusty even though he scored some good runs. Then in WC also he didn't look that great. He is much better than this and maybe it's only matter of time before we see the old ruthless Warner back.
Well the difference between the two sides was that one stand between Lambsandwich and Warner
Agree. We'll probably bowl him until he drops though.
Australia have got a third of our total in about 20 minutes of play
Australia should get 150 and then declare for a laugh.
They'd still win.
Australia should get 150 and then declare for a laugh.
They'd still win.
England’s batting is a shambles, the top order is even more shite than those of the 80’s & 90’s. But who do they pick in Godsname at the top of the order? Desperate times call for desperate meassurea.
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Root's going to have to bowl Leach all day and rotate the pace bowlers otherwise he's just going to break them down.
The top order of the 90s was much, much better than the one we have now. Atherton, Stewart, Hussain or Thorpe would walk into the current team.You don't mean...?!
Don't forget that every other team had at least one high-class bowler back then, so there was nowhere to hide. England had good batsmen - it's just that they were facing world-class opponents every time they took the field.
Even the Aussie batsmen of that era were only averaging early 40s, which shows how deflated the batting statistics were back then. If you want proof, here you go: Usman Khawaja averages the same as Mark Waugh.
No doubt. I'm just having a giggle at bringing Nas in in 2019.
It's actually a serious question whether you'd have Cook back, maybe with a couple of weeks to train up.
And I bet there still won't be wholesale changes.
This was a very astute observation last night.
Only difference between Australia and England innings was the Warner/Labuschagne partnership, albeit very different weather conditions.
England will have to win this game batting day 3 and perhaps 4, but with spin also coming into play.
Edit: Leach already takes a wicket!
That wicket just brings it home, if they batted sensibly England would have pissed this test.
I mean... Aus have given wickets away as well. Couldn’t you say that if Aus batted sensibly when 2-130 odd that they’d have pissed the test too...?
Yeah, it's a tricky pitch to be fair, but the England wickets were worse considering the overhead conditions Australia had to deal with. Australia rode their luck and it evened out over the innings, England were just rubbish.
To be fair apart from Archer and Broad to some extent, your other bowlers have been poor. Woakes should be bowling better but he has been pretty poor this match.
Edit: And he takes a wicket.
I don't think Woakes is fit. Nor was in the last match. I doubt he'll play the next match.
That's another thing. This Australian attack is the best I've seen from them over here since 2001.
What changes do you suggest? The batsman required don’t seem to exist right now.
Sibley, Vince in. Denly and Buttler out. Burns, Sibley, Vince, Root, Stokes, Roy, Bairstow, Woakes, Archer, Leach, Broad.
23 wickets have fallen in 93 overs, basically one full days play.
Worth a try, but by no means guaranteed to offer any better - just another pie at the wall.
Well it's batting everyone where they like to bat. You could even turf out Roy for Pope but if you're gonna bother with Roy in tests you have to give him a long dart at 6.
Haseeb Hameed being let go by Lancashire. Feels like only a few months ago he was debuting in test cricket against India 
Think we need to move on don't we. Obviously Cook wouldn't come back but even if he was up for it, we need to start thinking about the future.
No I agree. Doesn't look himself at all. He's usually a quality bowler in English conditions.
Pope looks like a good bet, given he's just scored a double-hundred for Surrey. Sibley as well. But yeah, after that you're getting a bit thin on the ground.
Of course we could always put Sam Curran in the top order, as I've been droning on about for months.
Yeah Curran & Pope, but not lower than 4. That’s the problem, big pool of talent for the middel order and nothing for the top 3 positions. I guess we could try Sibley instead of Roy, bring in Stokes at 3, Root at 4, drop Denly for Pope and play him at 5, then Bairstow at 6 and finaliteit drop Buttler for Curran at 7. So:
Burns
Sibley
Stokes
Root
Pope
Bairstow
Curran
Woakes
Archer/Anderson
Broad/Anderson
Leache
I don't think the Aussies will mind Archer charging in for the rest of the day. Keep *arching* your back banging it in short. His workload in the last week is going to look immense by the end of this test.
Vince? You got to be kidding right?
The cupboard is bare in terms of guys that bat in the top 3.