People don't seem to see the problem backing a manager with no track record.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Since being made permanent manager. Games P13 W3 D3 L7 - Goals F13 A21
As a caretaker and courtesy of the new manager bump he started well, however it’s all gone to shit very quickly.
This summer was meant to fix it, but we weakened our already weak midfield and attack but only strengthened our defense!?
This is also a manager who gives me no clue that he is tactically sound and produces the most bizarrely timed substitutions.
If he wasn’t a legend most would call for his head. If I thought this team backed by these parasite owners and cretinous board really were heading us in the right direction I would be less concerned however after the summer window I do not have any faith in us going anywhere. A second consecutive year without CL will be a nail in our transfer plans coffin. I only think a shit tonne of money and a real top class manager can fix this.
Long season ahead and yes luck and decisions will go our way over the course, unlike today at times but that doesn’t change the fact that we are simply not very good.
As a caretaker and courtesy of the new manager bump he started well, however it’s all gone to shit very quickly.
This summer was meant to fix it, but we weakened our already weak midfield and attack but only strengthened our defense!?
This is also a manager who gives me no clue that he is tactically sound and produces the most bizarrely timed substitutions.
If he wasn’t a legend most would call for his head. If I thought this team backed by these parasite owners and cretinous board really were heading us in the right direction I would be less concerned however after the summer window I do not have any faith in us going anywhere. A second consecutive year without CL will be a nail in our transfer plans coffin. I only think a shit tonne of money and a real top class manager can fix this.
Long season ahead and yes luck and decisions will go our way over the course, unlike today at times but that doesn’t change the fact that we are simply not very good.
Absolutely. It won't change until we get a top class progressive coach.
Well, the transfer window is closed, the owners and admin are still in place, and Ole can't take the penalties or officiate, so, I think it's a bit unfair to go off on him after a game like today.
I’m almost certain it’s the board. It happened last summer and in Moyes first.
During the Summer, a lot of fans seemed to have forgotten how bad we were in the last few months of last season.
I predicted 2 things:
1, Ole will not be the manager on 1st Jan 2020
2, the fitness work that we are doing will not solve anything.
I also predicted that before the Summer transfer window opened, that we would not spend big and would penny pinch.
IMO, we will improve as the season progresses, but we will go through periods when we draw/lose consistently. And it is these periods which will see us stuck in a mid table position. And that is what will see Ole fired.
i do hope I'm wrong though, because this is painful to watch. LFC and MCFC will probably use CP, to work on their goal difference, while CP use us to get 3pts at OT.
Do not talk about Mourinho.. he was the cancer .. nobody was looking forward to his interviews.. nobody was looking forward to his games.. there was negativity hovering all around the club.. he is the worst manager we have ever had .. no wonder he is not finding jobs anymore
Yeah he was really poor when he walked the league with Cleverley and Carrick in midfield.
Talk about over exaggeration and entitlement.
First loss in the premier league against Palace. Ole is starting to break records. 
Why sack Ole now when we've got nobody to replace him with? This is our new reality. Better to simply accept it. And at least our football wasn't as negative and boring as it was under Moyes, LVG and Jose.
SAF used to get flak at times. No manager should be free from criticism. Yes the players made mistakes today and deserve the blame for it,
Losing 2-1 to Palace at home is pretty fecking negative mate.
You can see what he’s trying to do and it’s what most fans wanted.
Sanchez and Lukaku out. Smalling, Jones and Young dropped whilst finally buying a decent right back and central defender.
Problem is he didn’t get the full backing, there are obvious holes all over the squad namely in midfield and right wing.
Martial looks injured, god knows how long he’s out. Shaw out again. So we’ll end up with Young and probably Mata getting starts again.
We’re relying on a 17 year old kid to change the game for us for Christ sake.
City was in a similar position, they needed to gut the squad. They did it in one summer but the difference is they had the backing to fill all the holes whilst we have done half the job.
Wan-Bissaka and Maguire? great but we needed the likes of Pepe and maybe somebody like Fernandes too (to be honest there’s been plenty of top quality midfielders move this summer, we could have taken one of them surely)
I feel for Ole. We aren’t playing that bad and have missed vital penalties that should see us sat here with 7 points minimum.
He’s under huge pressure now though, a loss next week away at Southampton and feck knows what will happen.
Sanchez and Lukaku out. Smalling, Jones and Young dropped whilst finally buying a decent right back and central defender.
Problem is he didn’t get the full backing, there are obvious holes all over the squad namely in midfield and right wing.
Martial looks injured, god knows how long he’s out. Shaw out again. So we’ll end up with Young and probably Mata getting starts again.
We’re relying on a 17 year old kid to change the game for us for Christ sake.
City was in a similar position, they needed to gut the squad. They did it in one summer but the difference is they had the backing to fill all the holes whilst we have done half the job.
Wan-Bissaka and Maguire? great but we needed the likes of Pepe and maybe somebody like Fernandes too (to be honest there’s been plenty of top quality midfielders move this summer, we could have taken one of them surely)
I feel for Ole. We aren’t playing that bad and have missed vital penalties that should see us sat here with 7 points minimum.
He’s under huge pressure now though, a loss next week away at Southampton and feck knows what will happen.
With results like this I can see Pogba demanding to go, hell he’d probably even consider a move to Stockport County at this rate.
The only difference with me is I think he will get to see out the season.
My point is simple. Ole had basically free half season last year. Time to know the squad, implement his style and ideas. We looked worse in june. Ok, then came pre-season and transfer window. Another chance and time to build style of play and squad. Now, 9 months after he came, what is his signature? Are we playing better than last year? Running more? Pressing more? Defending better? Attacking better? What is the reason why he should get more time?
Lampard is in Chelsea 2 months, without buying single player and he already have something to show. It is not looking great and i am not saying thst he is good or bad manager but so far his team is playing football, not sitting back. Rodgers also came after Ole and also has something to show.
I said before Chelsea game that Ole's results will be mix of everything. WLDWDLWD and so on. And that will not change i am afraid.
Lampard is in Chelsea 2 months, without buying single player and he already have something to show. It is not looking great and i am not saying thst he is good or bad manager but so far his team is playing football, not sitting back. Rodgers also came after Ole and also has something to show.
I said before Chelsea game that Ole's results will be mix of everything. WLDWDLWD and so on. And that will not change i am afraid.
The result was sure. But the football is more entertaining.
Yes the cancer that won us 2 trophies & champions league football.
Ole will get nowhere close to achieving half of what Jose did
Rashford missed a penalty, ref should have given atleast 2 more penalties, Lindelof out jumped by Schlupp who is 4 inches shorter than him, and De Gea with another ridiculous mistake, that shot should never go in at the near post. Also
Lingard was doing a Lukaku impression with his first touch today. None of these things can’t really be blamed on Ole, the players were just horrendous.
Was it feck.
It's like people forgot Jose's first season where we peppered opposition at OT and drew every game 1-1. If you don't get results, get the feck out.
The best signing we would have made would have been a progressive coach on Ole's backroom staff to help implement technical possession.
It appears our underlying system is shit, whilst theirs is rather impressive.
Pretty much this even though we have made 3 poor mistakes that might have cost us 5 points.
2 penalty misses and the defending for Palace's first goal.
Than the tumescent shit we served up under Moyes, the aimless boring backpassing with LVG, and parking the bus under Jose? Yah, I find our football more entertaining. Little consolation after a result like today I know.
I meant Greenwood should have come on at half-time.....has Solskjaer really thought Lingard would improve his 0/10 first-half performance to a 8/10 performance in the first minutes of the 2nd half......we have wasted 8 minutes in the 2nd half because it was 100% clear that Lingard would be awful in the 2nd half too.
Please Ole. No Lingard.
So like Jose's first season where we finished 6th? Pepper the opposition and draw every game. In this case, lose at home to Palace. First half was fecking shit as well.
Lampard and Rodgers have a better squad, simple as that.
Apart from our defense, which was shored up well in my mind, which players do you see getting into the first XI of our top 4 rivals?
I think you could really only say Pogba, who probably sees this and clearly thinks he deserves to play with better.
What a post.
- We didn't try to keep Ronaldo although we did everything we could to convince him to stay
- SAF should have retired earlier although he won the league in his last season
- Moyes should have been given more time and apparently sacking him was the mistake we shouldn't repeat
- Mourinho should have been sacked after finishing 2nd which now seems like a pipe dream
- Implying Manchester United could not get a better manager than OGS
It's a laugh that we there are people talking about posession-based system when it comes to OGS, the only reason we dominate possession is because the opponents allow us to hold possession, almost all our play is this, CB pass to Pogba, Pogba passes to Lingard, Lingard switches it to Shaw or AWB rinse and repeat.
I stopped taking this seriously after this point.
In 2011-12 we lost the title on goal difference
And in 2012-13 we won the title running away (and were robbed of a run to the CL semis by a weak red card to Nani vs Real).... how is that awful?
Obviously, I agree Ole isn’t the long term answer. But what can we do about it now? We’re 3 games into the season ffs.
Some will say his hands are tied but the Maguire thing today is not a good look for Ole's management, that's something you see at the playground. Before that though we were crying out for someone who can deliver dead balls and cross, to bring in Maguire have no-one who can put a ball to him or have no plan and seemingly no-one working on this with Maguire taking it upon himself is poor. Late subs, not getting Shaw off, we face a brick wall and have no Gomes and Pogba playing too deep. Playing a non entity in Lingard and trusting on a keeper who hasn't signed and winding down his last year.
With last season we had a mega run and equally opposite shite run. I fear Ole's real form of managing and selecting will see more draws and loses.
The stream I had on had some of Ole's shouts, nothing tactical, just keep playing.
With last season we had a mega run and equally opposite shite run. I fear Ole's real form of managing and selecting will see more draws and loses.
The stream I had on had some of Ole's shouts, nothing tactical, just keep playing.
Well we cant sack him now, I'll give him that.
He's obviously not good enough but neither is the squad so what are we supposed to do? If we sack him it looks stupid because the team is shit and we didn't back him, but if we don't sack him we will probably continue to be useless because he's a poor manager. It's a dire situation to be in.
Guy is not fit for purpose at this level, let alone being close to best-in-class.
Stopped reading after that
I stopped after his 1st point.
I understand what you are trying to say but would heavens fall if he made a comment like this ; 'I am glad about our transfer business. We obviously couldn't get what all the players we set out to before the window. .The market is always dynamic but I know the club's ambitions and they are in tandem with mine and we will not rest on our laurels. We are always striving to improve our squad, both the players that are here and the ones we will get in future and I believe the board is constantly thinking of ways to add to our squad"........
That comment would have made fans more understanding of his predicament instead of ' I am VERY HAPPY with our business....just out curiosity, can't a coach say it the way I said it without being disrespectful or antagonistic towards the board?
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