Cantina accepting an award as only he would

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I think someone should keep an eye on you too mate.
Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
 

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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Did Cantona steal your puppy?
 

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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Blastphemer!!!
 

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As always: "wise man said...but nobody paid attention".

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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
No harm admitting you don't understand what he's talking about. Some people prefer simpler subjects, that's fine, the world would be a boring place if we were all the same
 

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What a personality, imagine he would be a challenging team mate... but he is enthralling and unpredictable
 

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If he did not want to be there, why did he accept the invitation?
 

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Found this analysis of the Shakespeare quote relevant.

"As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods;
They kill us for their sport."

Gloucester speaks these words as he wanders on the heath after being blinded by Cornwall and Regan (4.1.37–38). They reflect the profound despair that grips him and drives him to desire his own death. More important, they emphasize one of the play’s chief themes—namely, the question of whether there is justice in the universe. Gloucester’s philosophical musing here offers an outlook of stark despair: he suggests that there is no order—or at least no good order—in the universe, and that man is incapable of imposing his own moral ideas upon the harsh and inflexible laws of the world. Instead of divine justice, there is only the “sport” of vicious, inscrutable gods, who reward cruelty and delight in suffering. In many ways, the events of the play bear out Gloucester’s understanding of the world, as the good die along with the wicked, and no reason is offered for the unbearable suffering that permeates the play.
As with the Seagul quote, I think he's having a dig at a lot of people in the room. My perception is that he likely speaks about the greed, injustice, lack of morale and misused power surrounded by him in the room and in the World.

It's brilliant.
 

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Classic Cantona, probably pissed himself laughing when he got back stage.

Brilliant.
 

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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
You either get him or you don’t. There’s no middle ground. You obviously don’t.
 

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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
did you prefer listening to Ronaldo talk about how great he is and looks?
 

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It’s interesting when he says ‘who are we to the Gods’, because who are ‘the Gods?’ In a football context, one would often look to stars like Messi and Ronaldo as ‘the Gods of the game’, and Cantona himself was nicknamed ‘Dieu’ by the fans. Yet, in a FIFA or UEFA setting, it rather points towards the people making the decisions, the powerful people in the perhaps corrupt Organisations, and the Money wielders from Quatar, China and the US, the recent documentary of Diego Maradona shows how he was more like a fly than a god when push came to shove. And then he invokes the contects of we as humans - both the flies getting swatted by old age and wars, and at the same time ourselves the Gods creating eternal life and wars, accidents and criminality.

Platini was a French football ‘god’ who then ascended to the real Olympus of the UEFA leadership, before criminality (his own and others’ brought him down.

I think Cantona points towards that after ‘God is dead’ as Nietzsche said’, when we in football and society create our own godheads and omniootents, and are unchecked by higher moral values (like joga bonito), it all becomes a back scratching cirkus of nice, politically correct and corruptly rich people, like Edmund the son of Gloucester, and Goneril and Regan, the treacherous daughters of the King.

To put it short, not too far from what you said, but also more complex.

And what does ‘I love football’ mean?
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Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
He’s just over your head, bud.
 

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Found this analysis of the Shakespeare quote relevant.



As with the Seagul quote, I think he's having a dig at a lot of people in the room. My perception is that he likely speaks about the greed, injustice, lack of morale and misused power surrounded by him in the room and in the World.

It's brilliant.
Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.

But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
 

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Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.

But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
He means that it’s ultimately a hollow distraction to all the burning injustices in the world and the folly of humankind. It also feels like he’s taking a shot at the corrupt and pompous organisations like UEFA and FIFA with their tacky pageantry.
 

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Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquium, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
Nah, Cantona just fancies himself a bit of a philosopher. It's not the first time that he's said something cryptic with the intent of leaving people wondering what he was trying to say. Speculating that he's suffering from ailing mental health is a bit much. At worst, he thinks he's more clever than he actually is.
 

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I genuinely thought some bloke was gonna stand up from the crowd, run up the stage and give Cantina a Flying Kungfu Kick for that!
 

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Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.

But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
A lot of meanings maybe? He simply loves football, but at the same time saying it after the other doomy sentences, it could both refer to how football is an untouched place/haven from all the stuff we humans interfere with and feck up. I'm a bit unsure whether how much of it is improvised. The whole speech sort of readings like the last apocalyptic ramblings of a man who has seen the dark and gloomy future of man. Like Bowie's last dark album or one of Picasso's very last self-portraits before his death.


- Maybe the "I love football" part is just a "nice" way of rounding everything off, or so to pass the microphone on on a "light" note.

The whole speech is what I love about Cantona - He gets people asking questions in other ways, and us normal persons to wonder about things. That's ultimately also what good art does, makes you see things from other perspectives, whether you're high or low.

The best part is the reactions, from the crowd that has all agreed this is a serious event. There's something about the crowd in that clip. The tax-evading Messi and Ronaldo, who character-wise are a planet away from Cantona. They are both left in stand-still for a moment. PSG's oil-president being present, and then of course the simplistic gingerhaired man, who reacts like WTF, as he's too much of a simpleton and unable/unwilling to dive into any sort of perspective of what Cantona is saying. I think he knows the camera is on him, and he's indirectly posing for the camera too as looking for others to also just get on with his own simple wtf-narrative of Cantona, as to help himself out. Everything goes over his head.
 

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He loves the game.

If you've read his book he says that he sees no difference in a beautiful pass to a beautiful painting or piece of music.
He means that it’s ultimately a hollow distraction to all the burning injustices in the world and the folly of humankind. It also feels like he’s taking a shot at the corrupt and pompous organisations like UEFA and FIFA with their tacky pageantry.
Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquium, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
Now, that’s three different interpretations for you!

Eric Cantona has always been and wanted to be an artist, The Seagulls episode was a classical poetic art performance nove, and I think it’s most reasonable to try to understand what he says in that light. It also isn’t too difficult to find meaning in it, yet in the end, there is also ambiguity in there. It’s not a cooking recipe.