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The Caf's Roy Keane.
CANTONA WAS A GREAT PLAYER BUT A DIFFICULT PERSONALITYIT'S THE PHONE
CANTONA WAS A GREAT PLAYER BUT A DIFFICULT PERSONALITYIT'S THE PHONE
Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.I think someone should keep an eye on you too mate.
Did Cantona steal your puppy?Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
To be fair, when I was texting my mate about king Eric earlier today it also auto corrected to Cantina.How the feck can a united fan spell His name wrong ffs.
Blastphemer!!!Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Right, that's Teemu Pukki off the table then.Apparently, having a beard means you're a likely murder suspect. Bad news for Father Christmas.
No harm admitting you don't understand what he's talking about. Some people prefer simpler subjects, that's fine, the world would be a boring place if we were all the sameApologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Do you think it's a spelling mistake or just a typing mistake?How the feck can a united fan spell His name wrong ffs.
As with the Seagul quote, I think he's having a dig at a lot of people in the room. My perception is that he likely speaks about the greed, injustice, lack of morale and misused power surrounded by him in the room and in the World."As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods;
They kill us for their sport."
Gloucester speaks these words as he wanders on the heath after being blinded by Cornwall and Regan (4.1.37–38). They reflect the profound despair that grips him and drives him to desire his own death. More important, they emphasize one of the play’s chief themes—namely, the question of whether there is justice in the universe. Gloucester’s philosophical musing here offers an outlook of stark despair: he suggests that there is no order—or at least no good order—in the universe, and that man is incapable of imposing his own moral ideas upon the harsh and inflexible laws of the world. Instead of divine justice, there is only the “sport” of vicious, inscrutable gods, who reward cruelty and delight in suffering. In many ways, the events of the play bear out Gloucester’s understanding of the world, as the good die along with the wicked, and no reason is offered for the unbearable suffering that permeates the play.
Same here.Easily my favourite united player I've ever had the pleasure to watch live.
Judge Holden aka Gianni Infantino?Reminiscent of the Judge in McCarthy's Blood Meridian.
You either get him or you don’t. There’s no middle ground. You obviously don’t.Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Could be, mate.Judge Holden aka Gianni Infantino?
did you prefer listening to Ronaldo talk about how great he is and looks?Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Smelly pirate hookerI know he likes his drink, but I think he is also taking drugs now.
It was as if he wrote works randomly picked out of a dictionary and read them out.
You don't really fit in around hereIt’s interesting when he says ‘who are we to the Gods’, because who are ‘the Gods?’ In a football context, one would often look to stars like Messi and Ronaldo as ‘the Gods of the game’, and Cantona himself was nicknamed ‘Dieu’ by the fans. Yet, in a FIFA or UEFA setting, it rather points towards the people making the decisions, the powerful people in the perhaps corrupt Organisations, and the Money wielders from Quatar, China and the US, the recent documentary of Diego Maradona shows how he was more like a fly than a god when push came to shove. And then he invokes the contects of we as humans - both the flies getting swatted by old age and wars, and at the same time ourselves the Gods creating eternal life and wars, accidents and criminality.
Platini was a French football ‘god’ who then ascended to the real Olympus of the UEFA leadership, before criminality (his own and others’ brought him down.
I think Cantona points towards that after ‘God is dead’ as Nietzsche said’, when we in football and society create our own godheads and omniootents, and are unchecked by higher moral values (like joga bonito), it all becomes a back scratching cirkus of nice, politically correct and corruptly rich people, like Edmund the son of Gloucester, and Goneril and Regan, the treacherous daughters of the King.
To put it short, not too far from what you said, but also more complex.
And what does ‘I love football’ mean?
You’re like a Cantona Rosetta Stone here. Well done.Eric quotes Shakespeare to tell the world that we are fecked before mocking the facile and distractive nature of football.
Perfect for such a pompous and vapid event.
He’s just over your head, bud.Apologies if my ‘criticism’ of Cantona offends you, but after the ‘oh, isn’t he profound’ clamour dies down, what we are left with is unintelligible psycho babble bullshit from an old pro who looks and sounds like he’s capable of mass murder. It in no way diminishes what he did 25 years ago, but we’re talking 2019.
Merci.You don't really fit in around here
Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.Found this analysis of the Shakespeare quote relevant.
As with the Seagul quote, I think he's having a dig at a lot of people in the room. My perception is that he likely speaks about the greed, injustice, lack of morale and misused power surrounded by him in the room and in the World.
It's brilliant.
He loves the game.Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.
But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
He means that it’s ultimately a hollow distraction to all the burning injustices in the world and the folly of humankind. It also feels like he’s taking a shot at the corrupt and pompous organisations like UEFA and FIFA with their tacky pageantry.Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.
But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
Nah, Cantona just fancies himself a bit of a philosopher. It's not the first time that he's said something cryptic with the intent of leaving people wondering what he was trying to say. Speculating that he's suffering from ailing mental health is a bit much. At worst, he thinks he's more clever than he actually is.Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquium, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
Because if you're a United fan you're immune to miss spelling?How the feck can a united fan spell His name wrong ffs.
Typical snowflake millennial response from you Steve.IT'S THE PHONE
A lot of meanings maybe? He simply loves football, but at the same time saying it after the other doomy sentences, it could both refer to how football is an untouched place/haven from all the stuff we humans interfere with and feck up. I'm a bit unsure whether how much of it is improvised. The whole speech sort of readings like the last apocalyptic ramblings of a man who has seen the dark and gloomy future of man. Like Bowie's last dark album or one of Picasso's very last self-portraits before his death.Agree. He even points towards his own ironic role in it all.
But what does he mean by ‘I love football’?
I'm the voice of degeneration.Typical snowflake millennial response from you Steve.
He loves the game.
If you've read his book he says that he sees no difference in a beautiful pass to a beautiful painting or piece of music.
He means that it’s ultimately a hollow distraction to all the burning injustices in the world and the folly of humankind. It also feels like he’s taking a shot at the corrupt and pompous organisations like UEFA and FIFA with their tacky pageantry.
Now, that’s three different interpretations for you!Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquium, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
I seriously doubt that, bud.He’s just over your head, bud.