Is not good enough to start for the club, according to the clubs fans. It's so weird how both the entire coaching staff of Manchester United AND Englands manager both get it wrong with this guy. Really, really weird. Puzzling.
Is it time to burst “Rashy’s” bubble?
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He did but Ronaldo at 21 was a completely different player than Ronaldo at 18. Things had long since clicked and he was well on his way to being a superstar. Rashford at 21 isn't much better than he was at 18.
no he isn't just a hysterical person saying things on a forumThat can’t be right. He’s on higher wages than Aguero?!
True but Ronado was developing alongside great players. I’d like to see Rashford playing alongside 2007 era Utd. It’s a completely different situation. If anything we should be more patient now.
Rashford has a very strong argument to be, after Mbappé, the best young centre forward in the world. Fans must be patient with him while he puts his game together. He has such an extreme range of gifts and such a high potential that it’s perfectly understandable for the refinement process to take a minute.
People are often frustrated with the things that he tries, but the reality is, everything he is trying is something he’s done at least once in top level football. The capability to do it is there, and the potential to do it consistently is there, if only he keeps at it. We’ve seen him step up and score a couple free-kicks. We’ve seen him score from range, we’ve seen him leave defenders for dead with the ball at his feet. Why would anyone want him to just resign himself to playing everything ‘simple’ at the age of 21, when there’s been demonstrable evidence already that he could be so much more than simple?
Bare with him would be my suggestion. We shouldn’t be trying to take the wind out of his sails. He’s scoring goals in the teens since he was 20-odd, that is respectable for now. He will move into the 20s if he scores 3 or 4 more free kicks a season and 3 or 4 more long range efforts. He also needs to score 3 or 4 more tap-ins.
I’m note worried about him at all. I share the same frustration watching him at the moment, but I have accepted that this is part of the process. A time will come when we will need to call it one way or another, but that time is not while he is a 21 year old striker.
People are often frustrated with the things that he tries, but the reality is, everything he is trying is something he’s done at least once in top level football. The capability to do it is there, and the potential to do it consistently is there, if only he keeps at it. We’ve seen him step up and score a couple free-kicks. We’ve seen him score from range, we’ve seen him leave defenders for dead with the ball at his feet. Why would anyone want him to just resign himself to playing everything ‘simple’ at the age of 21, when there’s been demonstrable evidence already that he could be so much more than simple?
Bare with him would be my suggestion. We shouldn’t be trying to take the wind out of his sails. He’s scoring goals in the teens since he was 20-odd, that is respectable for now. He will move into the 20s if he scores 3 or 4 more free kicks a season and 3 or 4 more long range efforts. He also needs to score 3 or 4 more tap-ins.
I’m note worried about him at all. I share the same frustration watching him at the moment, but I have accepted that this is part of the process. A time will come when we will need to call it one way or another, but that time is not while he is a 21 year old striker.
Regardless of how you view his ceiling, there are far more immediate issues in the side than Rashford. He's young, sharp, is improving both physically and technically, works hard and loves the club. Yes his freekicks are indulgent, to say the least, but it's not like we've got someone else waiting to mercilessly bang them in.
Ronaldo was getting a say in the squad despite those greats. Rashford likely wouldn't even get in that squad
That should be the standard at Utd. In Fergie's teams, he would be a bench option. There is no finesse to his game. Everything about his game is speed and power, perfect for a substitute role. Lingard shouldn't be even in the squad. Such is the drop in standards at Utd these days.
Set pieces has been an issue for so long. Pereira is the best at the club but he isn't in the first team. We really need a no 10 who can create but is also fantastic at corners and free kicks. Christian Eriksen really does tick so many boxes for us (shame he doesn't want to come here).
Actually I like the way Marcus isn't afraid to try to do different things. Young players need confidence in themselves otherwise they will never get to the next level. How on earth do some fans expect him to develop if he always goes for the safe option and is too anxious to try something and risk mistakes?
The comments by some poster about how Marcus supposedly has it 'made' because he is 21 and playing for his favourite club etc are simply snide. Nobody anywhere could credibly accuse Marcus of complacency, of the wrong attitude, of 'not being up to it' etc. Marcus and the other young/younger players don't have the reassurance that the class of 92 had, for example, the experienced players coming off of title success to guide them and lead them.
Fairweather fans are not fans.
The comments by some poster about how Marcus supposedly has it 'made' because he is 21 and playing for his favourite club etc are simply snide. Nobody anywhere could credibly accuse Marcus of complacency, of the wrong attitude, of 'not being up to it' etc. Marcus and the other young/younger players don't have the reassurance that the class of 92 had, for example, the experienced players coming off of title success to guide them and lead them.
Fairweather fans are not fans.
Ronaldo and Rashford is an unfair comparison despite the goals Rashford has scored. Different level of footballer all round.
Just using your eyes it’s simple to understand Ronaldo was unaturally talented with his tricks and stepovers in his early years. Rashford will never have that kind of flare it’s just not in him.
Sure their trajectories will likely end up different but the point is that 18-21 is a long way from most players peak. Some on this forum seem to think Rashford should be the finished article and not even the best players in the world were that at his age.
That "Rashy's"Why do people keep saying he's 'leading the line' when he's played on the left every game? Do you people even watch our games?
He can be frustrating with his free-kicks and rushed shots but there's a player in there - hopefully it clicks this season
He can be frustrating with his free-kicks and rushed shots but there's a player in there - hopefully it clicks this season
This is a really good post. I'd also add that strikers need confidence, so the idea of bursting his bubble when he's a young player with the world at his feet seems ridiculous. You support, and support, and support. If it doesn't work out, you bring in another striker who may take their place, or you ship them out.
The players themselves should be challenging him in different ways all the time in training, and part of the clearout I like is that Man Utd seemed in the last few years to have become far too cozy with mediocrity. The new signings will benefit our attack as well as defence. Better defenders will make Rashford a better striker, now he has to face Maguire in training, that'll make a big difference, for instance, and he can pick his brain about what a top CB likes or doesn't like to face. Same with AWB, I can imagine training/ practice matches with those two pitched against each other really raising his game another level.
He needs to be dropped with his friend. But sadly we lack any options.
He’s absolutely woeful and I actually think he has regressed over past 18 months.
Certainly lack of brain for footballing decision at this moment.
Terrible today
Good battle between him and Pogba for worst player on the pitch.
Good battle between him and Pogba for worst player on the pitch.
A Lack of a proper footballing brain will hamper him from ever being an elite forward despite his physical gifts
3 balls across the six yard box between the gk and defender and he hasnt been near one of them.
No sense of awareness or strikers instinct in the box.
No sense of awareness or strikers instinct in the box.
He is brainless. Can’t believe people think he should be playing striker.
Agbolahor
Horrendous again today. I’m wondering how just “getting older” is going to trigger the huge improvement in technique which is obviously needed
Lingard 2.0
It's worrying that he still lacks many key fundamentals of being a good player, let alone world class talent that many believe to describe
Thankfully it won’t be long until Greenwood displaces him. 18 months and counting.
useless, has no anticipation.
His low is way too low and his high is barely good
He’s absolutely garbage. Offers nothing, ruins all our attacks, can’t pass, can’t take a man on. His only ability is running off the shoulder of a defender than taking a crap shot that doesn’t trouble the goalkeeper.
He might be good enough one day to lead the line but giving a monster contract to an inconsistent as feck 21 year old who hasn't in any way shown he's capable of being the main man up front is up there with the dumbest decisions the club has made. He should be a 2nd or 3rd choice striker right now.
It's so frustrating that he seems never anticipated the balls that are crossed in
A training cone would have given Southampton defense more problem than he did today.
He is shit up front. He has no awareness his link up play is shit and he is shit in the air. He has absolutely nothing that makes a good number nine. Starts for us though. Because academy.
He is a kick and run merchant. The sooner our management realise it the better. Martial and possibly Greenwood are much bigger talents.
The most over rated player I think I've ever seen. The problem is he actually thinks he is good .
What made him ok when he broke through was that he didn't think he was that great and therefore mad E up for it by working hard and playing the percentages.
.What made him ok when he broke through was that he didn't think he was that great and therefore mad E up for it by working hard and playing the percentages.
He's really not cutting it
Rashbonlahor
How about his heading ability
?Said it before but he’s the most frustrating player with some degree of talent I’ve ever seen at Utd.
HUGE ego. Thinks he’s Ronaldo. Any free kick he has to take it and has to shoot no matter how far out it is. Same with taking crazy long shots in open play.
I get he’s young but his decision making can be atrocious, constant stupid flicks.
HUGE ego. Thinks he’s Ronaldo. Any free kick he has to take it and has to shoot no matter how far out it is. Same with taking crazy long shots in open play.
I get he’s young but his decision making can be atrocious, constant stupid flicks.
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