We need to get either Tuchel or the manager just joined the red bull team
Allegri is leaving Juventus
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Tuchel?! The PSG manager who got knocked out by our sh*tty team (PP not even playing) with clueless Ole in charge? Come on.
Some people seriously underestimate the devastating consequences of not competing in CL - we should be competing for CL, let alone failing to qualify for the f*cking tournament. Allegri can get the job done.
PSG are known bottlers and it’s been happening for years. We had been schooled in both games.
If it was not for a fluke penalty we would not have won the game.
Whether Ole is good enough or not, we should not be looking at this guy as a future United manager. Whether results will be so much better I’m not sure, but the fans will get sick of the football on show, there will be unrest and I think it will come around full circle to the point we are at now.
Besides, I don’t think he is as good as CV suggests. In terms of the product on the pitch, Conte was the mastermind behind Juve’s resurgence, Allegri was lucky enough to come into a great team and ran with it.
Besides, I don’t think he is as good as CV suggests. In terms of the product on the pitch, Conte was the mastermind behind Juve’s resurgence, Allegri was lucky enough to come into a great team and ran with it.
He might not even want to come here and I'm thinking more in terms of style of football the fans want and the heavy criticism he might face soon into the job, especially with high flying City and Liverpool scoring 80+ goals. Could be a fruitless career move for him with no long term prospect, a hiding to nothing.
If Ole is gone soon then beggers can't be choosers, I wouldn't be bothered too much if he became our manager. I do think we need experience. People citing Jose and Lvg as top managers who didn't work out so we shouldn't hire another is quite flawed when one had the Chelsea debacle which was repeated here and a guy going for retirement.
Like LVG said though, the setup is severely lacking even if he wasn't the man to help. He had enough time in to see a club with no clue post Fergie and that still applies to any manager who comes who isn't a Fergie/Klopp/Pep.
If Ole is gone soon then beggers can't be choosers, I wouldn't be bothered too much if he became our manager. I do think we need experience. People citing Jose and Lvg as top managers who didn't work out so we shouldn't hire another is quite flawed when one had the Chelsea debacle which was repeated here and a guy going for retirement.
Like LVG said though, the setup is severely lacking even if he wasn't the man to help. He had enough time in to see a club with no clue post Fergie and that still applies to any manager who comes who isn't a Fergie/Klopp/Pep.
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Woodward should not be telling any manager how to do their job.
This is the only top manager who is without a job, we need him desperately, he'd improve our defence by a lot and his Juve never played park the bus football either.
Oh my days. We lose 1 game. 1 game! And people are calling for a manager with a fancy name.
This is real life, not football manager.
Give Ole time for gods sake.
This is real life, not football manager.
Give Ole time for gods sake.
He needs time ? 3 wins in 17. Let that sink it in.
I wouldn’t accept if I was him
Is he still available? get him in
Is that Oles record right now? feck me I didn’t realise it was that bad. Christ
Yeah fully aware as everyone seems to be mentioning it... Awful record no doubt.
But, this is a new season mate. Last seasons results have done their business already so can we try and focus on this seasons results?
Not the best start but we will gather momentum. Ole, Phelan and Carrick aren’t daft. They will be looking at the positive parts of our games and drilling it into the team. So yeah patience is needed.
I am all for patience if we have a game plan. Sorry but I see nothing under Ole.
You've got to be blind if you can't see a distinct difference to how we are playing now than we did last year.
We've signed highly qualified managers post Fergie. None of them have been particularly wonderful to watch. Allegri was criticised all the time in Italy for being too rigid. He's not the answer for us.
We all know that we are much more aggressive off the ball now, pressing teams and trying to win the ball back as quickly as possible. We also have a counter attacking threat against teams that play a high line.
But I do agree, we look disjointed when we face teams that sit deep and we have a lot of possession. A lack of invention especially when Pogba is taken out of the game like he was today.
Is that the managers fault? Or is that because we don’t have enough creativity in our team (a recruitment issue)?
I’m sure the coaching staff will be well aware of our shortcomings against teams that are difficult to break down.
Ole isn't a good enough coach to get the results we desire with this group of players.
Two seasoned pros who won titles galore couldn't even manage it so Ole has no chance.
But Ole isn't the biggest issue. It's that cnut running the club and the 3 other cnuts who own us who are.
We are going nowhere without a takeover.
Two seasoned pros who won titles galore couldn't even manage it so Ole has no chance.
But Ole isn't the biggest issue. It's that cnut running the club and the 3 other cnuts who own us who are.
We are going nowhere without a takeover.
Rather not get another defensive manager.
What are we waiting for?
Why not? Our attacking is just impotent. Might as well end up 4th with a ton of catenaccio 1-0 victories and strategic 0-0 draws against Top6 clubs.
We are better off utilising him to balance the rebuild but the only way any new manager will become useful to the offfield success Solskjaer's had is with a DOF. The whole defensive football argument is withdrawn, Ole is a counter attacking manager ? That's the reason we look clueless when needing to command possession, I've seen Juventus have a more dynamic phase of play under Allegri then anything I've seen of Ole.
It would be another 2-3 years of transition and we don't even know if Allegri would be a success. Changes are needed at senior level.
All day. Top coach.
Borefest. He won most honours in a league with the only decent team being his ..
Even my mum could win the serie a with Juventus
We're watching some amazing stuff and are enjoying things now aren't we?
No we aren't. But we won't be watching amazing stuff under allegri either...
No. Just no.
You know what's entertaining? Winning
I'd rather just hire Jose back. More interesting
I doubt Allegri would want to become another punching bag and a shield from board's inability to address football issues.
Matić would love that.
And Dalot and Gomes
Appointing him would another huge mistake. Ole might not be up for it but going after the first available option for a quick fix once again will achieve nothing.
We have already tried that to many times.
We have already tried that to many times.
Perhaps... and perhaps we could attract better players, but it's a bit of presumption at this point.
Ah Dalot! I'd forgotten him.
Lash 20m on a right back, then decide he actually aint that good in defence. Marvellous.
Then buy a 50m player every so slightly older the next season!
It is. In the end it's a huge mess. As with Jose, Ole's got his faults. It's not helped by intrusion or resistance from the board among other things. I don't if we'd have that much better luck with a more experienced manager with Ed giving directions.
If we could get someone right in summer 2013 right after Fergie departed, then maybe we could be a bit more stable team now, but yes... top of command would probably get in the way.
Not even trying negotiating with Herrera right before a massive cop out of not upgrading the midfield for me is a sign that things are out of control in almost every department. I just wonder if anyone will react if Matić and Pogba leave.
Sigh. I don't like talking about Herrera. He was in every match of Ole's winning start wasn't he? And then as soon as he was out injured we lost form entirely. And of course didn't replace him..