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Robert Mugabe dies aged 95
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Good
Good riddance
Shame that....
Finally
As usual, the villains have a happy ending.
Good riddance! A classic example of a liberator turning into a tyrant.
Do we have anyone on the caf from Zimbabwe? I'd be interested in their take.
All my opinions on Mugabe are formed from the western media so I naturally think he was a tyrant who destroyed his nations economy.
All my opinions on Mugabe are formed from the western media so I naturally think he was a tyrant who destroyed his nations economy.
Ruled with an iron fist is putting it lightly. Awful man.
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Meh. Was he that bad or is it similar to Gaddafi in that the Western media have painted him badly?
The responses are sensational
I hope it was a long and painful death
Bit of both I think
Hang on.. Are you saying Gadaffi was a good guy who was treated unfair by the western media?
Dunno, maybe ask the people from North Matebeleland.
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I remember learning in school in the 90s that Mugabe was an example of a progressive African leader and if there were more leaders like him in Africa the continent would be better off.
What he did in the first years in the transition from the apartheid Rhodesia was quite progressive, he put a lot of focus on education.
He ended up like your stereotypical tyrant though.
What he did in the first years in the transition from the apartheid Rhodesia was quite progressive, he put a lot of focus on education.
He ended up like your stereotypical tyrant though.
A great leader and wonderful man.
Ah no wait, he was cnut. Feck em.
Ah no wait, he was cnut. Feck em.
He lived too long. Did great liberating Rhodesia from minority rule (no one can take that away from him). Despite his heart being in the right place regarding land seizure, he clearly didn't have a solid grasp of economics. And he did the dictator thing wrong (if you're gonna be a dictator, be like LKY, or Kagame).
As often in Africa, leaders embody the saying 'Die young or live long enough to become the villain'. Power has a way of corrupting. Many leaders rise up from among the underprivileged with promises to make things better, but lose themselves along the way.
When a leader has ruled for that long, it means they've removed the checks and balances, and silenced (by violence and fear) any opposition. They're bound to be isolated from the underprivileged and surrounded by sycophants who play to their ego while enriching themselves.
When a leader has ruled for that long, it means they've removed the checks and balances, and silenced (by violence and fear) any opposition. They're bound to be isolated from the underprivileged and surrounded by sycophants who play to their ego while enriching themselves.
Pretty sure even very early he was murdering lots of people. It just wasn't well reported.
This. Started off a hero of sorts and died an absolute cnut tbh. His family and his cronies lived in absolute luxury, waltzing around the globe, spending millions of dollars, whilst his people basically starved and struggled to put food on the table.
I don't know about that, but I wouldn't find it hard to believe. Some politicians start out good and get drunk on power, lose their way, others are nefarious from the beginning. It would be easy for a new relatively unknown politician to paint themselves as a savior if they run a good PR campaign.
He was just a poundland Daenerys.
I just really hate what follows when any past world leader dies, especially one with any kind of left wing tendencies that some people lower themselves and start flinging muck.
It was similar when Castro died. Again, not a politician I have a heap of affection for, but why people feel the need to stoop immediately to vulgarity is beyond me.
It was similar when Castro died. Again, not a politician I have a heap of affection for, but why people feel the need to stoop immediately to vulgarity is beyond me.
Why do the good always have to die so young?
Good summation, mate.
Is it me or several of these high profile terrible men are passing on recently.
Off the top of my head:
David Koch - One of the biggest destroyers of our climate
Nuon Chea - The no.2 in the Khmer Rouge era. Brutalized an entire nation.
Off the top of my head:
David Koch - One of the biggest destroyers of our climate
Nuon Chea - The no.2 in the Khmer Rouge era. Brutalized an entire nation.
It's generational so nothing special, really.
Well not him but people on his behalf. They were talking about it on 5live this morning.
Just amazing how some of these people managed to live exceedingly long lives. Read somewhere that Zimbabwe's life expectancy was once reduced to 40 under his rule.
RIP
Quentin Letts really is an outrageous prick.
Had a good innings,unlike many of the people he ruled over.
With great wealth comes pretty sweet healthcare.
He was no angel. But look at the mess left behind since the USA/Brits got rid of him.
My vague impression of post-colonial African politics is that there have been a good few far worse dictators across the continent than him.
by what criteria do you judge these dictators to come to this opinion?
Not really. He will go down as one of the worst.
The problem is he is a liberation hero and a lot of the countries value this more than the disaster he caused after liberation. Politicians will speak highly of him but actual people on the street do not. We have two Zimbabweans in my office. Both came into the office today grinning.
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