Do we have a difficult decision to make soon with him and DDG?
Dean Henderson signed new contract | Loaned out to Sheffield United
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A contract for De Gea will mean Henderson will leave. He will not want to be a substitute after being a first-team goalkeeper. It is inevitable: it is either Henderson or De Gea.
Well at least it means we have more control over De Gea. We can at least sell him in a season if he doesn’t perform.
Henderson has signed a contract. He'll be settled on loan to Sheffield unless he impresses enough to actually compete with De Gea. I'm sure he'll back himself to displace him if he gets a good chance to do so. That is probably a couple of years down the road though.
We can always loan him to Sheffield every year (or another team if they get relegated) like what Chelsea did with Courtois.
The key point is not letting him sit on the bench on crucial years of his development.
Has anyone actually watched him over 90 mins for a few games? I read about his coach giving him a talking to due to poor distribution.
I really don't get all the fuss around him, he just seems really over confident and looks like he's easily distracted (A bit like Joe Hart dare I say) If I'm proven wrong in a few years time I'll be happy to get a few laughs on here.
Clean sheet.
Yeah, last year and this one too. IMO he has the same strengths and weaknesses like DDG. Obviously would take some time to reach(if he ever) DDG level at his peak, but there is potential to become an excellent shot stopper. He's not the best when it comes of distribution of the ball and won't trust him to take the ball out of the back.
I’ve only watched him with England but his distribution in those games has been better than what we see from DDG.
What about dealing with crosses?
I agree, he's a good keeper but I get big Hart/Pickford vibes off him as a personality - gobby, brash, vaguely arrogant. I don't think it matters because he'll be leaving permanently soon - DDG is our #1 for life now pretty much, on that salary, even if he's in bad form. He's been made essentially undroppable.
Think he has stalled quite a bit in that area. That was one of his positives when he was with us in the academy from memory, but last year his numbers were pretty average in the Championship. Doesn't really strike me as that being one of his better qualities and he's long way to go to reach one of the better keepers in that area in PL.
Can't comment on his form with England as I haven't seen him, but just going off stats this season he has rather poor one - 1 in 3. Bear in mind Sheffield doesn't really use the back to build up and most of the time he boots it forward.
For me it's a weak point. Both that and commanding his area. Certainly was the same last year, despite having most clean sheets and generally being the best keeper in the Championship.
Positive point is that he leaves his line more than DDG and most of the errors he makes will be dealt with when he comes of age.
He's doing well at the moment and needs 1-2 seasons to be a #1 at a PL team to probably have a better judgement of his potential and also ceiling as he's one of those promising English keepers at the moment who might make it or not.
I can see him going on loan again next season. 2 years time he should be challenging DDG for the number 1 position.
I've mostly watched him for England and from the little i've seen he is far from ready to be the nr 1 keeper for a big club. 3, 4 years down the line that might change though.
I'll be surprised if he'd be happy to be #2 for you next year. I want us to go all out for him next summer but it'll end in tears
England call up 
Bayern are interested. Will be a great replacement for Neuer. It will be a shame he won't be our No. 1 but Fair play to the lad if he can go on and become Bayern's No. 1 .
€100M
Keep reading this in the media but he can only go there if we agree to sell. Haven’t seen much of him at all but it seems we’ve never been so well off for keepers. i must say I like Romero but again, haven’t seen enough of him and not aware of any weakness in his game.
Why is it a given he’ll join them?
This guy is an unbelievable talent.
United fans owe it to themselves to actually watch Sheffield United play this season, to see just how composed and good Deano is.
He is 22 years old, and plays with the conviction and confidence of a veteran goalkeeper. His ambition is both to be England number one and to play at the highest club level, and he is really fearless in all aspects of his game. He also commands his defence, is really good 1v1, lightning fast reaction and reach, as well as strong in the air. His footwork is also very, very good.
In my opinion, he is without any shadow of a doubt the biggest talent we've had in the club for ages. I think his future is brighter than Rashford's, and I'm not even being hyperbolic.
We'd be beyond stupid to let him go, so I guess we probably will.
He is 22 years old, and plays with the conviction and confidence of a veteran goalkeeper. His ambition is both to be England number one and to play at the highest club level, and he is really fearless in all aspects of his game. He also commands his defence, is really good 1v1, lightning fast reaction and reach, as well as strong in the air. His footwork is also very, very good.
In my opinion, he is without any shadow of a doubt the biggest talent we've had in the club for ages. I think his future is brighter than Rashford's, and I'm not even being hyperbolic.
We'd be beyond stupid to let him go, so I guess we probably will.
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can’t understand the de Gea mega deal, means we can’t sign him in the bench or sell
Him so he’ll have to be first choice til the end of his contract no matter how well Henderson progresses
Him so he’ll have to be first choice til the end of his contract no matter how well Henderson progresses
I mean, we can still sell De Gea in a year's time. Should loan him out to a European club next season and take it from there.
Edit: oh shit wages
Edit: oh shit wages
Yep. Makes no sense. De Gea is such a limited goalkeeper. Fantastic shot-stopper (maybe even the best), but a liability in every other area.
Not to mention his value; right now it is incredibly overblown, as he is somehow rated as the most valuable goalkeeper in the world. This value is guaranteed to decline, so this would have been the perfect time to sell him. We'd make close to a 100 million, and still have two fantastic goalkeepers in Deano and Romero.
Instead we award de Gea with a massive pay rise. Just senseless.
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You say that, but the post literally just before yours is a quote from the man himself talking about what it means to actually make it at United. Doesn’t exactly sound like he’s incorporating bratwurst into his diet just yet.
That said, what happens next season? Another loan? Keep him around and start the transition so he’s primed as first choice for 2021/22 (that sounds mental)?
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Chris Wilder, the Sheffield United manager, hailed Henderson’s display as “outstanding” after the final whistle and said talks have begun with Old Trafford in order to keep him on.
“He wants to play first-team football,” Wilder said. “Maybe I shouldn’t be saying this, but I’m not so sure he’ll play backup to anybody. Maybe he’ll come out and say it.
“If there’s a decision for Manchester United, for him to come out to us for another year, we’ll gladly take that up. We’ve already started talking with them but obviously he’s their player.”
Wilder added: “That decision on behalf of Manchester United and the player, but he’s been outstanding for us.”
Him going on loan for one more season might be perfect, get another year of experience. I think we will need to replace DDG in 2 years and having a PL ready keeper slot in would be brilliant.
The contract to DDG might be a bigger issue for this very reason. I like DDG, but I think in terms of progressing, Henderson would make more sense surely. But then again, our plans are a bit weird. we binned off Smalling for not being able to use the ball properly, but then have DDG who doesnt come off his line and isnt great at passing (anymore?). And we have AWB who is inconsistent with the ball (tho has shown he can do some good passing in tight areas).
A third loan isnt the worst thing but I do think end of next season he should be our number 1.
A third loan isnt the worst thing but I do think end of next season he should be our number 1.
Id rather Henderson was our keeper next season
I would take him as our keeper next season if we can sell DDG, with his wages I doubt we will get any suitors.
That's the reason I would say another year loan.
I don't think we can have DDG as 2nd choice
Juve or PSG we can only hope, new tax rules in Italy, maybe Inter could do us a favour but I doubt he would go there
But DDG causes us issues . and I think as a club we need to act, doesn't command his box and we keep conceding from set pieces
Dean has a few howler moments to sort out so another year away wont do him any harm.
Bring him in and sell DDG for 30m to PSG in 2 years and we are laughing
Bring him in and sell DDG for 30m to PSG in 2 years and we are laughing
Dave’s got a deal until 2023, plus the option of 1 more year. Unless the club are prepared to drop him and his massive wage, Henderson will obviously get offers from better clubs than Sheffield United and may well be tempted to move on. Our club has been overly sentimental with players and hung onto them for too long. Let’s hope this doesn’t repeat itself in this case.
Next year is 2021? Perfect time to sell him.
Dont want to scare you but 2023 isnt far away and thats if he goes on a free
We can only hope, but rumours have it that Juve are in for Pogba, maybe they can take them both for £200m.
Dean signed a new contract last year, I hope that the club realise that he is the long term keeper for United rather than letting him go and then spending another £60m in 4 years time.
We should be looking to sell DDG in the next window.
And whom would you suggest would we sell him to? Highest paid keeper in the world, but not even the best performing in his own league?
I’m afraid you’re both a tad away with the fairies if you think he’ll have clubs interested in paying a fee for him. Bit like Bale at Madrid, no one would want him, unless on a free. After United for Dave I don’t see anyone other than PSG after him and that’s far from a certain thing. I’m not sure how he got such a good deal last time round, his agent called the clubs bluff and it worked wonderfully well.
It’s a club issue, I’m not going to panic about Henderson, as I do like him as a keeper and I believe he’s better suited to our current defensive set up, but I also believe we have an even better keeping prospect already on the books.