.Guardian said:
you can only laughI think i understand what you're saying, but the fact is racial abuse worked as intended enough times to generate that perception(it only needed to work a couple times and for it to become a major talking point/a couple players admitting it worked, for that to happen)
Excellent read. Though I am not sure if it is only English language guilty of this. Of the languages you have listed I know Hindi and it is replete with idioms or other cultural mores that equate black with evil, shame etc.
Yeah, India is such a vast country with a vast palette of skin colours and accompanying racism within the country towards darker skin colours.
The bold part is true for the Northern India mostly. And though Southern cultures have majority dark skin but still there is an association of beauty with fairness. You only have to see the movie actresses in the south to confirm this.
Wrong thread.
The fact that it was so misinterpreted shows it wasn't very well done. I'm not going to apologize for that, no one should. I'm just glad it was a parody, even if it was a poor one. Let's move on.
Thank you for the PDF. You are clearly well read on this subject and this was a very good read.
But Hindi doesn't really refer to individuals as black. The colour denotes evil because our belief system revolves around night being evil (dark arts etc.) and days being good (serene, spiritual etc.)
Don't agree with that. A lot of our kings were dark coloured. In fact, one of our most successful empires was the Cholas, who were Tamilians and dark skinned. (I've already said what I think about our colour related references in Hindi).
That is a very recent trend based on our colonial history. Being fair is seen as a sign of being better off now, but this wasn't always the case.
My post was in no way intended to classify you as anything! Just making the point about that line. Apologies if I made you feel bad.Thank you for the PDF. You are clearly well read on this subject and this was a very good read.
Also, yes - I do speak Hindi (its my mother tongue and I speak Bengali also). In isolation of my remaining post - what you've highlighted is very damning! It made me feel like I'm racist
The point I was making is that skin colour is a fact, but the use of that for any purpose other than identification is racism (regardless of what's the purpose or intent of the usage).
I have big eyes, brown colour, black hair etc - all these are identifiers. That's all. Somebody pointing that out isn't racist. However, when I travel to US, UK or parts of Europe - the surprise that people show on my English language proficiency is racist. It's meant well but it's racist. I prefer to call it 'White Preference'.
Although the language itself is inherently racist - that's entirely expected. It's been put together by people who were racist.
On the Article itself - it's fair to say that history is always written by the victorious. As an Indian, this is a soft one for me. Our reality is that almost all of our history books were written by the British to eradicate 5000 years of culture, religion and history - and they were rebranded as 'myths'. The only history we were really taught is our period of servitude under the Mughals and the English. The cultural "whitewash" was so deep that even today there is a lot of infighting in India on recognising this exact fact.
Here is a link if you are interested: https://www.google.com/amp/s/franco...6/rewriting-indian-history-complete-book/amp/
It does seem to have gone off somewhat off at a tangent........
I don't know. There was a legit white supremacist rampant in the current events forum for months until he finally got banned.
What a joke.
swansonstache
That's very condescending. Surely, you see the irony in that.
He's not wrong though is he. Bigots arent too afraid to reveal themselves on here. Its a sad reflection of the society we live in unfortunately.
While not condoning obvious flaws in character nor judgment, I find that thinking one's point of view to be the only one worth merit troubling. At least, it goes against true freedom of expression. Being progressive for example, is conflated with being good, which is not the case. As a political movement, it's flawed but the word has a positive connotation.
The self-aggrandizing part, the absolute handle on morality, the steadfast belief in being 'right'.
There's fecking loads of that sort popping up on here recently.
I'll agree with this. It's just about finding the right balance when you wanna joke about it.
I have lived and worked in Malaysia and Singapore. Like you said, it's a culture where people are more open to making fun of each others race and it's often times done in a playful way. However it also has horrible knock on effects.
Serie A and the FA as institutions care about one thing only, and that is money. Acknowledging racism would be bad for business
I will never forget Opti Poba, it was surreal.
Imagine our reaction when the guy still got elected anywaysI will never forget Opti Poba, it was surreal.
The guy said that he wouldn't want to spend any personal time with racists or homophobes. He didnt say neither had the right to Express themselves, which was your interpretation. Thats not condescending. He has every right to feel that way.
Usually ends up in some kind of rant about free speech, snowflakes and how things were better in the good old days before people got offended about everything.
