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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Disgraceful. Banning him for all Portugal and CL games this season is the only suitable punishment.
Yeah I suffer from racism everyday and I have a problem with someone in an influential position publically making racially provoking jokes.I'm sure the people that suffer from racism everyday are really worried about an internal joke of two friends. I see you have all your priorities completely right
Typical post on here. A white person with a lifetime of facing racism telling people of colour how they should react and feel. You're not on the receiving end of these kind of jokes, you have no right to tell anyone how they should react.Here comes all the people outraged because they don't have anything else to do
Other than the skin colour I don’t see how Mendy resembles that character at all.Saying Mendy resembles that character is hardly racist. The video is bad though.
Everyone can react has they want. I can also make fun. That's how liberty worksTypical post on here. A white person with a lifetime of facing racism telling people of colour how they should react and feel. You're not on the receiving end of these kind of jokes, you have no right to tell anyone how they should react.
So, what is public what isn't? If I make that joke on the street to a friend is that public or private? Should I only do that joke only inside my house. Do you really want people to hear you and your problems when you go for stuff that everyone will think it's extremist?Yeah I suffer from racism everyday and I have a problem with someone in an influential position publically making racially provoking jokes.
If you and your friend let feel those jokes are appropriate then make them with each other. Not publicly
Yes if you and your friend believe that joke is appropriate do it in a place you both know no one will see or hear the joke. Because someone might hear that a be very offended.Everyone can react has they want. I can also make fun. That's how liberty works
So, what is public what isn't? If I make that joke on the street to a friend is that public or private? Should I only do that joke only inside my house. Do you really want people to hear you and your problems when you go for stuff that everyone will think it's extremist?
And just visit his Twitter. Full off racist posts and stuff.
Any action can be deemed has offensive. You stating that Bernardo Silva is a racist offends me. You should stop.Yes if you and your friend believe that joke is appropriate do it in a place you both know no one will see or hear the joke. Because someone might hear that a be very offended.
Sorry if you are sad that you can't be offensive in public. But I've had people making racist jokes to me my whole life because they think it's OK. I will fight for that to no longer be the case. I want everyone to understand that these jokes are not right.
Silva is someone of influence with that comes with even more responsibility than the everyday person. So he should know better than to publically post something clearly racially provocative.
The people on here defending this are the kind of people that make these kind of jokes. On a public forum, keep private jokes that might offend to yourself.Yes if you and your friend believe that joke is appropriate do it in a place you both know no one will see or hear the joke. Because someone might hear that a be very offended.
Sorry if you are sad that you can't be offensive in public. But I've had people making racist jokes to me my whole life because they think it's OK. I will fight for that to no longer be the case. I want everyone to understand that these jokes are not right.
Silva is someone of influence with that comes with even more responsibility than the everyday person. So he should know better than to publically post something clearly racially provocative.
Where did he state that Bernardo is a racist? Making something up to suit your argument won't get you far on here, you will get called out.Any action can be deemed has offensive. You stating that Bernardo Silva is a racist offends me. You should stop.
See why creating stuff like laws or whatever based on personal beliefs his a bit stupid.
Bernardo Silva is making a joke to a friend, not to you. If you don't like the joke you can not visit his profile page. You don't have the right to be offended by actions that aren't directed at you, that don't incite violence or don't incite actions against someone.
The rest, is keyboard warrioring.
Yes - if you have that relationship and if it is not meant maliciously. God knows me and my mates have made horrendous jokes in the name of banter. Doing it on social media though is stupid af.Can I ask if this was a private conversation as “banter” between friends is that ok?
It's not just a joke. It's a racist "joke".Any action can be deemed has offensive. You stating that Bernardo Silva is a racist offends me. You should stop.
See why creating stuff like laws or whatever based on personal beliefs his a bit stupid.
Bernardo Silva is making a joke to a friend, not to you. If you don't like the joke you can not visit his profile page. You don't have the right to be offended by actions that aren't directed at you, that don't incite violence or don't incite actions against someone.
The rest, is keyboard warrioring.
I dont care of what people feel and no one should care. Feelings isn't enough "material" to change situations.Where did he state that Bernardo is a racist? Making something up to suit your argument won't get you far on here, you will get called out.
Now get back to telling people how they should feel.
Caricatures of black peoples' facial and other physical features is very much a form of racism in my opinion and if you let your friends get away with it then that is your choice but it doesn't make it any less racist.Meh, everythings considered racism these days. As a man of colour, I've had friends make similar jokes. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Personally. The original joke, that is - yet to watch the video.
Doesnt make it right in the eyes of who? The ones that aren't really involved in the conversation? So you expect people to act by whos guidelines. Who will be the one saying what is right or wrong. Will it be you? Will it be me? You can't use personal feelings has a rule.It's not just a joke. It's a racist "joke".
I didn't call him racist I said he made racist jokes. This is what people like you don't understand. It's not about you it's about the people you may offend. Racism is not a joke and just because you might make one with your friends doesn't make it right. The least you can do is make those racist jokes in private.
But anyway I'm done replying I don't know how anyone who claims not to be racist can not see a problem with this.
Yes because most people are ignorant. So someone can do something racist without full knowledge of what they did or said. But if you keep doing racist acts or they do them knowing they are racist then you are a racist.I dont care of what people feel and no one should care. Feelings isn't enough "material" to change situations.
So a post can be racist when the person doing isn't racist. Is that your point of view. Are you telling that a post is somekind of entity that has properties like being racist?
What makes racist jokes worse than other dark(no pun intended) humored jokes?It's not just a joke. It's a racist "joke".
I didn't call him racist I said he made racist jokes. This is what people like you don't understand. It's not about you it's about the people you may offend. Racism is not a joke and just because you might make one with your friends doesn't make it right. The least you can do is make those racist jokes in private.
But anyway I'm done replying I don't know how anyone who claims not to be racist can not see a problem with this.
You're not making a lot of good points anywhere in this thread but the bolded part shows that you don't even understand what the argument is about or why people are upset.Any action can be deemed has offensive. You stating that Bernardo Silva is a racist offends me. You should stop.
See why creating stuff like laws or whatever based on personal beliefs his a bit stupid.
Bernardo Silva is making a joke to a friend, not to you. If you don't like the joke you can not visit his profile page. You don't have the right to be offended by actions that aren't directed at you, that don't incite violence or don't incite actions against someone.
The rest, is keyboard warrioring.
Read the tweets below silvas post. Tell me he didn't just empower a whole load of actual racists to post more nonsense. That's why he cannot do these jokes in public.Doesnt make it right in the eyes of who? The ones that aren't really involved in the conversation? So you expect people to act by whos guidelines. Who will be the one saying what is right or wrong. Will it be you? Will it be me? You can't use personal feelings has a rule.
I understand that you didn't like the joke. That's how you acted personally. But you cant expect someone to not do a joke because you dont like it. What about the ones who liked it? Like you say, if a non-racist can do a racist joke then n on-racists can laugh at a so called racist joke.
A thing can only be racist or whatever if it was created with that intent. If you are removing the intent of something then nothing resides.
I will be with you, side by side, when someone posts something really racist or inciting someone to do somehting against someone else because of their color, religion or whatever but not on this case or similar ones.
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Really?What makes racist jokes worse than other dark(no pun intended) humored jokes?
No wonder music is shit nowadays, everybody is offended by absolutely everything.
Of course you don't care what people feel. That's why you're resorting to making things up. You're having a shocker in this thread. There is hope for mankind though, most people on here have some sense of respect for others. No one has called Bernardo a racist (I certainly wouldn't based solely on this), but is he guilty of committing an act that may be considered racist (by other black people), yes.I dont care of what people feel and no one should care. Feelings isn't enough "material" to change situations.
So a post can be racist when the person doing isn't racist. Is that your point of view. Are you telling that a post is somekind of entity that has properties like being racist?
I cant agree that someone should be blamed for the actions of others if it's not inciting anything. The racists that posted below where already racist and interpreted the post has racism but thats because they grasp to get someone to pass the message they believe.Read the tweets below silvas post. Tell me he didn't just empower a whole load of actual racists to post more nonsense. That's why he cannot do these jokes in public.
It's simple. Do it in privacy with a friend if you need to. Not publicly its not hard to understand. Racism is racism. You can decide to make the joke but someone will call you out on it and it can be called in as a hate crime and you can be prosecuted.
Who said anything about it being worse? What was I comparing it to?What makes racist jokes worse than other dark(no pun intended) humored jokes?
No wonder music is shit nowadays, everybody is offended by absolutely everything.
You totally missed the point on that one.Who said anything about it being worse? What was I comparing it to?
I didn't compare it to anything.
If it's clearly offensive and has historically been offensive then don't do it in public.
Also if you need racist or offensive material for music to be good then you probably need to look at yourself not others.
Do you believe Donald trump has had no influence on empowering racists?I cant agree that someone should be blamed for the actions of others if it's not inciting anything. The racists that posted below where already racist and interpreted the post has racism but thats because they grasp to get someone to pass the message they believe.
@mancan92 i dont think that anything else that we can say will change the way we think so i will stop because i dont have anything to add since i already stated my toughts. I hope you can solve all your problems and good luck to you in those matters
So if I make a holocaust joke to my Jewish friend it’s fine because I’m just ‘poking fun’ with a mate and not advocating violence towards anyone. Gotcha.What people think is offensive really doesn't matter. Silva and Mendy are clearly friends that like to poke fun at each other and enjoy doing it. Silva isn't advocating for violence towards anyone or any group of people so why anyone should take offense is beyond me.
Do you know what else makes people racist? Being misstreated by a group of people. I always heard that you get more flies with honey than with vinnegar. If you think that ending racism equals having a mob jumping on someone that was having fun with his friend you should expect the oposite result.Do you believe Donald trump has had no influence on empowering racists?
Normalising that behaviour is what makes people believe being racist is OK.
How hard is that to understand. That's why he should not post racist jokes on twitter or in public places.