Maybe part of the reason your board denied him the Maguire request is he could have got him from Hull for less than a third of the price the year before.
Jose Mourinho joins Sky Sports
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Sure. It’s still a hell of a lot better than before and after.
Imagine that you took over the 5th best team in the country on GD, and left it in 6th place eleven points off fourth after spending advantage over all your rivals. Real Progress isn't it?
Well he was replacing an even less successful manager with £400 million pounds of players
Why are you ignoring the progress made the year after?
Nah, screw this. Life is too short!
Its fecking lower though isnt it? And the player was also a year bloody younger. You just cant accept that it made more sense to get him last year a year younger for less.
You're painting an interesting narrative where Mourinho failing was a result of him being failed by someone else....
In terms of Mourinho being failed by the people above him, it's a bold claim. We spent the odd £370mill in transfer fees alone, not to mention the expensive free transfers of Zlatan and Sanchez, in order to bring in the players he wanted. £100 of those £370mill were on defenders. He started focusing more and more on the players he didn't get, instead of the players he actually signed, like complaining during the world cup about our failed attempt at signing Perisic the year before. Not signing every player, while splashing fortunes, isn't the same as failing the manager. No manager gets every single player they want at the exact moment they want them.
It's hardly a surprise that the board had reservations towards the end about how far Mourinho should be backed. Mkhi, a £30mill signing which he had to get, was no longer wanted after 1,5 season at the club, being replaced by an insanely expensive Sanchez who went on to fill a position we already had two players competing in (and both were doing quite well). Lindelof and Bailly, signed for a total of £60mill, were suddenly no longer good enough, wanting to sign a defender quoted at around £75mill (who was signed for 1/5th of that, less than Lindelof the season we signed him), and we got rid of Daley Blind as he was no longer wanted and he was suddenly performing very well for a strong Ajax side, Depay ? Not to mention that we were set to lose talented players for nothing at all while the desire was to replace them with the likes of Willian.
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So essentially you've abandoned your claims about bids and you've now resorted to trying to convince us that £5mill is much lower.
Mint.
Imagine a manager getting all the transfers he wants (Lukaku, Matic, Lindelof) prior to the season, predicting his team would challenge for the title and claiming the team was effectively his, subsequently getting another supposed world-class attacker from a rival in January (Sanchez), then failing to meet his target. Quite the achievement, huh?
Ultimately no United fan should give a feck what he or LVG says after their tenures. Their complete and utter incompetence in finding the right players and wasting nearly a billion on rubbish is indicative of their ability to manage in the modern game. No idea how as a "man" he can sit there and comment on United this season when it was his piss poor player management that has largely seen us to get to the point where the current manager is suffering because he's had to unload alot of average footballers.
He should just shut the feck up and stop embarrassing himself regarding United where they currently are.
He should just shut the feck up and stop embarrassing himself regarding United where they currently are.
My thoughts ecactly. The game has evolved beyond him.
Agreed.
Exactly. He keeps banging on about his "second place achievement." He never challenged City. Klopp challenged City last season. He never challenged City.
Yet, the style of football Mourinho popularized, is the approach most teams take in knock out competitions, or whenever they are underdogs.
Yeah why doesn't Mourinho bang on about how he never challenged Bournemouth, West Ham and Leicester?!! #Ole4lyfe
#Stayloyalunderperform
#Dumbfans
I think it’s fascinating. It’s uncomfortable. It’s cringeworthy. Great TV
I’ve never see such miserable people going on about a team that’s going through a bad patch. It’s not like united are going to stay bad forever. I’m just waiting for Keane to turn to Jose and lay some blame on him.
You mean the type of football the Italians were playing for decades?
This idea that Guardiola popularized total football or that Mourinho invented Catenaccio really needs to stop.
They coach in respective styles that existed long before them.
Keane was bad mouthing Jose for nearly the whole time he was United manager so you would think he'll say something eventually.
Love him or hate him he is paid to be a pundit now and everything he said about us was true. He was hardly going to lie and say we looked great.
Eh? You mean there was football before Sky hype and Jamesie Redknapp ?
I was surprised to hear him say/ admit we did good business this summer.
Good God! This topic looks like those relationships that ended badly and people say they moved on, but in reality they are still completely sour inside 
Facts. Totally agree with you.
Surprised to see Mourinho not getting more stick for saying we’re worse now.
Yes we’re playing crap (arguably as bad as us under Mou last season, I’d honestly say not quite...) but at least our manager isn’t pulling the roof in and going to war with our squad, owners, fans, the press and wiping his arse on everything about us as a club while constantly bigging himself up...
Our mediocrity this season is in no small part due to his legacy.
People seem to fall for this shit every time, just like we did when we hired him.
God help the club who gets him next.
Yes we’re playing crap (arguably as bad as us under Mou last season, I’d honestly say not quite...) but at least our manager isn’t pulling the roof in and going to war with our squad, owners, fans, the press and wiping his arse on everything about us as a club while constantly bigging himself up...
Our mediocrity this season is in no small part due to his legacy.
People seem to fall for this shit every time, just like we did when we hired him.
God help the club who gets him next.
Don't forget signing two CBs and then moaning that he didn't have the CBs he wanted, that was the cherry on the cake for me.
I'm absolutely loving the bitterness here
Our mediocrity is caused by our players being bad, and our management being incompetent.
Oh. Well thank God we don't have to worry about that anymore.
This too.
The argument is basically "Mourinho should have been allowed to continually make mistakes and spend money until he got it right". Madness.
Isnt it the same with ole? Because of the perception that he'll get it right in year 3?
Mourinho spends 30m matic for a quick fix and got europa cup for it. Not bad for a quick fix. Lindelof is still our cb. Pogba has his own issue with not wanting to be here but it wasnt a bad purchase. Zlatan comes in for free and did his job. Baily was a 15m punt.
Cough... is ole a glazer yes men thread somewhere
Yeah typical Mourinho, he came to the club and found a club legend as goalkeeper, England's number one, decides to spend 17 million on a new keeper then decides that keeper isnt good enough and wanted to spend 37 million on another goalkeeper... oh wait that was Pep.
No one could get it right enough in year 1 that’s for fecking sure.
He spent over 40m for Matic and the europa cup was won the year before so he has a 2nd place to show for it which means feck all to us today. Lindelöf is a good center back in the wrong league. Zlatan was good but was always a stop gap. Bailly was signed in the region of 30 million. Pogba, by all accounts, was worked on long before Mourinho became a candidate for the job and would’ve been gone if Mourinho had his say.
How long is he going to be blamed for the crap situation club is in? Mediocrity is due to his legacy? I thought when he was gone all of our problems will disappear. Soon it will be a year since he's gone and I bet he'll still be blamed.
Basically all of his transfers were shit and ones that weren't wasn't his anyway? Pogba will go anyway.
And obsession.I'm absolutely loving the bitterness here
I don't mind with all that if that's your opinion.
But you created another set of standards for Ole.
2nd place means feck all, when Ole gets top 4 is lauded as genius.
Remind me how many windows Mourinho had vs Ole.
Where are you getting your transfer figures from? 15M for Bailly when it was reported 30M? 30M for Matic when it was reported 40M?
I have no idea where you got that quick fix bit from, but it certainly never came from Mourinho. Bailly a punt? Haha
But of course, let's ignore all the failed transfers.
Because his tenure lead to the current state of the squad on the back of mediocre signings combined with mediocre management. His legacy will continue at this club until such time as we bring in the right playing staff, that he let decay while trying to sign ageing established stars, so that he could make up for his inadequacies in developing players.
How fecking hard is that to get through posters on this forum's head? Mourinho was a fecking cancer for this club, arguably as bad as Moyes. He spent nearly 500 million and we have feck all to show for it. It is simply incompetency at its highest level and you can blame the Glazers or Woodward, but he was hired as a winner and we won two tin pots and a second place. He failed entirely.