*Hypothetically* Would Sir Alex come back to steady the ship and how would that go?

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I would love to see him tear apart some of the chief under performing players and lay out a clear structured training programme that actually shows direction however i wouldn't want him to have to be subjected to the state the club is in currently and like people have said he's had his health problems and has earnt his right to enjoy his retirement and he went out a winner.

I would however absolutely love to know what he is thinking about the players etc when watching us and exactly what his thoughts are on the current state of the club/ what he feels needs to change etc/ players he would get rid of etc. I know we will obviously never know but it would be so interesting to hear his thoughts. I expect he still looks at games with a manager's perspective eg I would do x y and a, set the team up like this etc
 

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It is not all on SAF that isn’t what I said they are your words not mine. I said that he isnt the best at managing succession and this is based on his recommendation of Moyes “The Chosen One”.
By all accounts Moyes was a fair way down the list and they approached a number of people preferred over Moyes, including Guardiola, Klopp and Mourinho, but all were unavailable
 

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Same thread every year!

It'd be an absolute disaster, nothing to gain at all.

This is the 7th year since he's gone, there's about 2-3 players in the squad he signed, it'd just be such a risk to his legacy and current health!
 

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No temporary is silly as a new DOF would come in and have conflicting ideas.

SAF is best manager in history bar none imo but he isnt the best at managing succession as was proven with the transition to moyes......need someone who is best in world at Dof role rather than more pissing about
Totally agree that a permanent post would be better but Utd is an old boys club. Any DOF in his right mind wouldn't dare take an axe to the place which is what it needs. They wouldn't get the support and would be out the door in days. Imagine if a DOF came in even an ex player and recommend sacking Ole, half the team and half the staff, Told the Glazers a few truths about thier ownership and recommended a completely new overhaul of recruitment, training, sales and lay the foundations of a new plan for 1, 3, 5,10 years. Sir Alex is the only one who could get away with it.
 

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I can safely say that SAF would suffer a massive stroke with the built up anger and frustration at this team. He also might throttle Woodward for assembling this mess. He's a legend and should rightly be riding off into the sunset.
 

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Let the poor man enjoy his retirement. We need to move on as well.

From his point of view, his reputation has never been higher. Why would he risk tarnishing that even slightly by coming back?
 

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He would want to tear his way through this dressing room and it wouldn't go down well. This lot have no respect for standards or authority. They'd be downing tools and trying to get him fired within weeks.
 

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Let the poor man enjoy his retirement. We need to move on as well.

From his point of view, his reputation has never been higher. Why would he risk tarnishing that even slightly by coming back?
Remember when Sir Matt had to come in after poor Wilf started to flounder?
It was another car crash decision. Not saying the current regime are that much wiser but sticking it out with Ole at the moment is better than bringing back people that have retired.
 

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Fergie ended on a high, winning the league. I wouldn't want him to come back and tarnish that memory, no matter how badly we're doing.

We won it all, and all of it I witnessed when I was 9 years old, all the way to 2013 when I was 29. I've seen United at our best to last me a lifetime.

My kid is 2 next year. I wouldn't mind us being shit for the next 10 years if it meant he could have a similar experience as mine.
 

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Fergie is nearly 80

The bloke had a major brain haemorrhage not long ago

I know times are desperate but let’s be fecking realistic :lol:

We need to stop with this nostalgia bullshit

It’s very simple, we need to have a root and branch review and hire modern and competent people to fill the management and coaching roles, while also instituting a football based representation at board level

The fans are totally culpable in all this, because we keep sucking it up and pumping money into the club
 

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Not really fergie won shits under glazer as well.

The glazer arent perfect, far from it. But if we keep deluding ourself that we wont win shits under them then we're giving a blank pass to every manager after ole.

We just need to find the good manager and everything will be back to normal, or at least better.

Liverpool owner was a laughing stock before they got klopp, spurs arsenal bournemouth too. You just need to find a good manager and won the pot.

Put it this way. Would fergie won more if given 800m to spend and he decided to give it 5 more years? If the answer is definite yes then glazer isnt the be all and all.

Fergie won shits? Wtf does that mean? Whatever, Fergie was the best manager we’ve ever seen and is not a fair comparison. There won’t be another Fergie. He won, despite, not because of the Glazers.

What have Spurs, Arsenal and Bournemouth won ffs?

Of course he would. Although I doubt he’d have been given that much to spend. Irrelevant argument anyway. One thing you did get right: the are definitely not the be all and end all. No manager will be given the freedom to build their own team with these leeches in charge. They have put no money of their own into the club and have helped themselves to millions, whilst putting the burden of their debt, not on themselves, but lifelong, genuine fans who have an emotional attachment to the club, unlike themselves, who don’t give a shite beyond making a profit. Give your head a fecking shake, pal. It’s bad enough them being here without idiots condoning them. You clearly have limited attachment or knowledge of United. One of a new breed that only knows a Glazer era, and therefore no better. Sorry if any of that offends but I’m more concerned about the club than the sensitivity of clueless, distant, non-genuine fans.
 

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Then they will gang against him and he will be toast. A tough manager needs an efficient board at his back. The only way you sort this mess is to have their P45 ready while 7-8 new players are on their way in
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Fergie won shits? Wtf does that mean? Whatever, Fergie was the best manager we’ve ever seen and is not a fair comparison. There won’t be another Fergie. He won, despite, not because of the Glazers.

What have Spurs, Arsenal and Bournemouth won ffs?

Of course he would. Although I doubt he’d have been given that much to spend. Irrelevant argument anyway. One thing you did get right: the are definitely not the be all and end all. No manager will be given the freedom to build their own team with these leeches in charge. They have put no money of their own into the club and have helped themselves to millions, whilst putting the burden of their debt, not on themselves, but lifelong, genuine fans who have an emotional attachment to the club, unlike themselves, who don’t give a shite beyond making a profit. Give your head a fecking shake, pal. It’s bad enough them being here without idiots condoning them. You clearly have limited attachment or knowledge of United. One of a new breed that only knows a Glazer era, and therefore no better. Sorry if any of that offends but I’m more concerned about the club than the sensitivity of clueless, distant, non-genuine fans.
Were you calling people idiot and clueless distant plastic fans when we're winning under glazer?
 

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His figure alone would bring some stability to the team and he would bring players with a proper competitive mentality but other than that there's only so much he can do and you guys need to move on from him. Even in his last seasons the football was unimpressive and rather antiquated, so clinging to the past is not the solution.
 

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His figure alone would bring some stability to the team and he would bring players with a proper competitive mentality but other than that there's only so much he can do and you guys need to move on from him. Even in his last seasons the football was unimpressive and rather antiquated, so clinging to the past is not the solution.
Yeah. He'll have to step down eventually for the 2nd time and we repeat the whole growing pain period.

Speaking of madrid. How do they set up.overthere? Managerial exits doesnt seems to effect you much, or is it the same
 

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Given the dire times we're going through, do we think it's viable that Fergus would agree to come back on a part time basis to help get us back on track while we appoint the right manager finally? I don't think there's a chance but i just wondered how everyone thinks that would go down if it actually happened. Could he still work his magic or had the game moved on?
Give it a rest.
 

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Were you calling people idiot and clueless distant plastic fans when we're winning under glazer?
Show some respect. He's one of our brave local toxic supporters who can't even do a motherfecking protest and get outsung by a handful of away supporters every match week.
Let's return to our plastic and distant insignificance.
 

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Yeah. He'll have to step down eventually for the 2nd time and we repeat the whole growing pain period.

Speaking of madrid. How do they set up.overthere? Managerial exits doesnt seems to effect you much, or is it the same
Broadly speaking there are 4 figures that run the club; the president of the directive board, the general director, the football director and the manager. As for the manager, giving the nature of the club I've always think of him as someone whose main task is to deal with the egos of the squad, so it needs to be someone the players would respect and follow. It can go very bad when someone like Benitez is appointed for example as his persona was the complete opposite of Zidane.
 

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Outrageous suggestion.

He's a 77 year old man who has just had a massive health scare.

Leave him be.
 

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Broadly speaking there are 4 figures that run the club; the president of the directive board, the general director, the football director and the manager. As for the manager, giving the nature of the club I've always think of him as someone whose main task is to deal with the egos of the squad, so it needs to be someone the players would respect and follow. It can go very bad when someone like Benitez is appointed for example as his persona was the complete opposite of Zidane.
Ah. Interesting