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Not sure if its just me but has anyone else noticed that our throw ins are absolutely abysmal. Absolutely no movement, 30 seconds to throw the ball to the tightest marked player followed by a far too narrow sequence of half baked passes along a 2m wide stretch of the touchline?
 

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I have noticed it for 2 years now. It's like our players are afraid that their bad technique is gonna be on display, afraid of losing the ball. Zero movement and the thrower left scratching his head. Amateur teams deal better with this than us *facepalm*
 

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Everything with a dead ball is shocking, corners Free kicks throw ins just woeful
 

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I have been thinking of this for the longest time. We really struggle with keeping possession from a throw in and we barely win possession when the opposition have one.
 

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Wan bissaka is a wierd guy. Everytime he is on the throw ins , he waits for the opponents player to man mark our players. When they are free he just stands. Brainless from the players and management.
 

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They're as bad as our corners. We try to throw them to feet and invariably end up losing the ball. I'd rather we launch it upfield and lose it there than lose it on the turn in our own half.
 

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Vardy should have scored virtually straight from a throw in we had close to the half way line. Wan Bissaka to Greenwood under pressure, and intercepted.

Wan Bissaka is similar to Antonio Valencia in having never took a legal throw in
 

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There was one yesterday where we were on the attack and martial could've thrown it to telles, who could've passed it and by that time martial would've been in the box (I know, I know unlikely) and a chance could've been created.

But no, instead he waits for telles to trot forward, gives him the throw then ambles off. Telles then fannies about for 30 seconds and eventually sends it back down the line and by then, Leicester are back in formation and the whole attack is dead.

It's maddening, how can professional players not see something so obvious?
 

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Vardy should have scored virtually straight from a throw in we had close to the half way line. Wan Bissaka to Greenwood under pressure, and intercepted.

Wan Bissaka is similar to Antonio Valencia in having never took a legal throw in
That was the one I was thinking of when I bumped this thread.

I read an interesting article on how Liverpool massively improved their throw-in stats with specialist coaching. Kind of crazy to me that you or I can see the problem and read about solutions but a billion dollar football club leaves it unfixed.
 

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For anyone who hasn’t read the article I’m referring to.

Klopp contacted Grønnemark after a season in which Liverpool’s statistics on throw-ins under pressure were the third-worst in the Premier League with a success rate of 45.4%, according to Tifo Football. After Grønnemark had worked with the team for a season, Liverpool ranked as the second-best team in Europe within the same parameters, on 68.4%. They were second only to FC Midtjylland, who also work with Grønnemark.
 

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It is maddening. So many times you see a quick attacking throw option from the guy who had the ball when it went out, but no, they'll wait for the full back to trot over from wherever he is while the opponents reset and close off all the spaces. Only Bruno occasionally takes the quick one himself. Watch home many times Citeh take a quick throw from whichever player is closest to the ball and keep up the attack. Anyway, see "we're an awfully coached team" thread...
 

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Not sure if its just me but has anyone else noticed that our throw ins are absolutely abysmal. Absolutely no movement, 30 seconds to throw the ball to the tightest marked player followed by a far too narrow sequence of half baked passes along a 2m wide stretch of the touchline?
Yeah, I've noticed that too. Quite often they work against us, as in we get people under pressure quite needlessly. Just one more thing where there is a lack of organisation.
 

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Grønnemark has extended his contract for another season with Liverpool and selects his clients carefully. “I don’t want to coach teams that compete with Liverpool at the top, and I don’t want to coach teams that have a historical rivalry. For instance, coaching Liverpool and Manchester United in the same season wouldn’t work. I’ve had several offers from top teams in the Premier League that I’ve turned down – including in this season. Liverpool isn’t holding me back. My own ethics are.”
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Wan Bissaka lofting the ball to his teammate's waists is one of the most infuriating things in football.
 

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They're as bad as our corners. We try to throw them to feet and invariably end up losing the ball. I'd rather we launch it upfield and lose it there than lose it on the turn in our own half.
Agree. I’m of the opinion we should consider knocking a corner short, then putting it out for a goal kick. We probably score more off the ensuing pattern of play after intercepting a goal kick than we score from a corner kick.
 

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That was the one I was thinking of when I bumped this thread.

I read an interesting article on how Liverpool massively improved their throw-in stats with specialist coaching. Kind of crazy to me that you or I can see the problem and read about solutions but a billion dollar football club leaves it unfixed.
If I remember correctly for that throw in Wan Bissaka was taking ages because there was absolutely no one making any sort of movement towards him. He ended up almost throwing it away to avoid a yellow. How the feck do our players not know how to make a simple zig zag run to find space to receive instead of standing still and marked
 

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It been happening for years, which is why I absolutely don't get when our players allow a ball in play go out for a throw-in, particularly in the defensive or attacking third.

Throw-ins have never consistently been hugely advantageous to the team in possession (apart those long throws into the opponent's box), they allow the opposition time to crowd your players out and greatly reduces available options.

I'd have thought the better option if a ball was going out off an opponent where a United player was close to it under no pressure would be to get the ball under control and find a pass. It's particularly frustrating when we're applying pressure, maybe just after a corner, or when we're under pressure ourselves.
 
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“The speed of the throw is probably the singular most important thing" said Grønnemark
“The golden time to throw is 4 seconds after the ball goes out.
"If you throw at 4 seconds, less than 15 metres, the chance of retaining possession is 70.1%. Your chance of retaining possession drops by around 6% for every additional second."
We take forever to take a throw in. As mentioned above, Wan-Bissaka in particular actively waits for unmarked players to be marked before throwing.
 

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I’ve started paying more attention to this now. Honest to god, it’s fecking infuriating. It’s got to the point where a United throw-in has about a 50:50 chance of ending up with us losing the ball.
I didn’t know whether to bump this thread or the ‘awfully coached’ one but I had the same epiphany myself about the time of your post. Our ball retention off our own throw-ins is absolutely abysmal and akin to an alehouse team.

How anybody can look at us and how poor we are at the absolute basic fundamentals of the game and think we are a well-coached outfit is beyond me. It gets worse by the week, it really does.
 

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This reminds me of that Arsenal threat with all the celebrations.
 

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I’ve started paying more attention to this now. Honest to god, it’s fecking infuriating. It’s got to the point where a United throw-in has about a 50:50 chance of ending up with us losing the ball.
50/50? Christ I'm happy if it doesn't end up in a shot on goal for the opposition within 10-30 seconds. It usually does. We just throw it to whoever is marked by two players and lose it instantly.
 

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I didn’t know whether to bump this thread or the ‘awfully coached’ one but I had the same epiphany myself about the time of your post. Our ball retention off our own throw-ins is absolutely abysmal and akin to an alehouse team.

How anybody can look at us and how poor we are at the absolute basic fundamentals of the game and think we are a well-coached outfit is beyond me. It gets worse by the week, it really does.
For me, our throw-in sum so much of what is problematic with the team, something that can be summed up in a single word: hesitancy. Think Rashford cutting in and then stopping and waiting; Harry Maguire or Lindelof bringing the ball up the pitch, stopping and waiting before passing it back to one another. It's a lack of pace and decisiveness that is infuriating to watch.