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Up until the next manager comes along, and then they're also shit and part of the deadwood gang who are making the job impossible for the man in charge.

Plenty of people on here were praising Mourinho for all the great work he was doing with the players he bought, and the deadwood he was clearing out. Same with Louis Van Gaal prior to him.
 

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Yes, recruitment has been terrible for a while now, just like coaching. That's nothing new though.
 

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It's a fair point and definitely shows the issue with recruitment that we are getting managers without a thought to recruitment and style to implement
One man is at fault for overseeing it all though and his job is as secure as ever due to other things he does well
 

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True but I think many managers can utilise the signings Ole brought in. They're not like Fred, Schneiderlin, Depay, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Sanchez, etc who didn't even perform well under the managers that brought them in.

The important thing is having some consistency between managerial appointments. Let's not do something so stupid as hiring Jose after LVG again.
 

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It's a fair point and definitely shows the issue with recruitment that we are getting managers without a thought to recruitment and style to implement
One man is at fault for overseeing it all though and his job is as secure as ever due to other things he does well
It's not just style, it's about holding managers accountable for making good use of the players already at the club and trying to improve them. You can't just wash away years of investment everytime you need to change manager.

The first question the club should ask any candidate for the job is - what do you think you can achieve with the group of players we have at the club? But it seems like we ask them, what can we get you before we can expect any results?
 

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True but I think many managers can utilise the signings Ole brought in. They're not like Fred, Schneiderlin, Depay, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Sanchez, etc who didn't even perform well under the managers that brought them in.

The important thing is having some consistency between managerial appointments. Let's not do something so stupid as hiring Jose after LVG again.
What if we get someone like Klopp next who says he needs two extremely quick CBs to play his high line? Or someone who needs two full backs who are excellent at attacking?
 

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It's not just style, it's about holding managers accountable for making good use of the players already at the club and trying to improve them. You can't just wash away years of investment everytime you need to change manager.

The first question the club should ask any candidate for the job is - what do you think you can achieve with the group of players we have at the club? But it seems like we ask them, what can we get you before we can expect any results?
I dont think were doing either. I think theres no plan in place and it seems more day to day with our approach.
Ole got a tune out of the players before he became permanent.
But we lost more than we gained and thus our squad is weaker. That isnt really backing a manager.

Or if were asking 'what can we get you', its useless as we arent doing it anyway.
 

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Yeah, the next manager could want attacking full backs and AWB would be surplus to requirements. I think most will be happy enough to have all three new signings though, in fairness to the latest batch.
 

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What's not sustainable is changing managers every two years or even more often and expecting to have any sort of continuity within the team. It's obvious that a new manager will want to have new players that are more suitable to his ideas than the current bunch but you can't allow them to make too many changes unless you are 100% confident you will allow them to be here long enough to oversee the whole rebuilding process.

In our current situation transfers should not be handled by managers, they should not be the ones deciding who is bought. I think even Klopp does not handle Liverpool's transfers, he can suggest players to be bought but ultimately the decision belongs to people higher up in the organization. Giving complete authority to managers only works in environment like the one built by Fergie, where you knew he would be here for the entire time of rebuild.

We are bad at identifying talent, and bad at integrating them into the team. We basically sign whoever is available and recognized as a 'big name' - this was the first Summer in a while we didn't do that, the issue this Summer was that we only managed to sign three players because of it and one of them was a youngster from Championship who shouldn't be heavily relied on.
 

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We are back to where a manager dictated signings and philosophy. Next manager we hire, we could see a shift again. People thought the club and Ole would work together in implementing a strategy, but it looks to me like Ole is the one calling the shots. The club thinks we have a new Fergie here, which is nonsense. We need a strategy independent of managers to a high degree, which we dont have