Internationals October (Euro Qualifiers + Friendlies)

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Watching Italy v Greece. Any idea why Italy are playing in green? Seems odd, they ain’t very good either.
 

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Santi Cazorla and Jesus Navas on the pitch...is this a testimonial.
The fact that Cazorla has somehow made a comeback from an injury, that could have meant he was in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, and is now playing for the national team again, that is truly remarkable.

It also should serve as a huge embarrassment to our very own Juan Mata, who has generally been healthy and in good shape for a long time, yet hasn't featured for Spain in years - not even a benchwarmer but we thought he deserves a 3-year deal at United?
 

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Watching Italy v Greece. Any idea why Italy are playing in green? Seems odd, they ain’t very good either.
Puma wanking themselves and calling it "an inspiration from the Renaissance". Everybody hates it but i think it's supposed to be a one off. They will revert to blue soon enough.
 

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On italian tv now "barella per barella" :lol::lol::lol:

(Barella means stretcher btw)
 

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Puma wanking themselves and calling it "an inspiration from the Renaissance". Everybody hates it but i think it's supposed to be a one off. They will revert to blue soon enough.
Yeah, even Mancini was so embarassed when they presented it :lol:

"I prefer the azure though" :lol:
 

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Well Italy has green in their flag. Makes more sense than the blue shirt
 

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Anyone noticing Fabian Ruiz tonight? A gem in the making... Oh, and absolutely deserved equaliser from Norway.
 

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Well Italy has green in their flag. Makes more sense than the blue shirt
The color is also a nod to the green shirt worn by the Italian team when they defeated Argentina 2-0 back in December of 1954. Following the victory, the youth teams adopted the color, while blue was reserved only for the senior squad.

The shirt looks good, but not for Italy.
 

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Penalty not called on Cuadrado :lol:
 

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Could be. I'm not that into British media, does those things get brushed?
No. Any incident big enough to appear on the soccer Subreddit (as a benchmark) will be reported on by at least a few major outlets. Our media is not concerned with protecting the reputations of our football hooligans domestically or abroad. Quite the opposite, in fact. The majority of stories from France 2016 were disproportionately critical of the English compared to the Russians in my opinion (bearing in mind that Russian groups were premeditating violence months in advance of the tournament, whereas our hooligans had travel bans, so the former's targets often ended up being lone men and families).

As to your other post: to be fair, for whatever else they did, the governments of Thatcher et al. were able to enact effective legislation to end mass-scale hooliganism in England. We went from a nation with a massive hooligan problem in the '70s and '80s to one with almost no serious organised football-related violence in the recent past (though I imagine knives and hydrochloric acid have more than made up for the deficit left behind).

Where Russia assimilates our culture with a few decades of lag, their hooligans get the idea of targeting England supporters in particular from an outdated conception of our status as "top dog" of the hooligan world. The belief is that fecking up an Englishman is a scalp; the reality involves beating up some mildly overweight 45-year-old in front of his kids.

Anyway, that's tangential to the question. Where are you from, mate?
 
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Anyone noticing Fabian Ruiz tonight? A gem in the making... Oh, and absolutely deserved equaliser from Norway.
He’s been highly rated for quite a while now, Napoli were very smart nicking him from betis so early.

He will be one of the best attacking midfielders of his age.
 

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What consistency for England? He's always been average at best for England.
There are plenty of players who never reached the levels on international level. Rooney, De Gea, Messi etc.

But for those guys we never say "they are back to the level they were when they were 2 years ago (at age 22 for Sterling)." Which is such a lazy argument when it comes to Sterling. He's been arguably the best premier league player for a while now but never gets the credit he deserves and everyone weasels their way to take a dig at him on the rare days he isn't at it.
 

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Have to give credit to Michael Oliver for his performance yesterday. Few referees would have given a penalty against Spain in the 92nd minute
 

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The fact that Cazorla has somehow made a comeback from an injury, that could have meant he was in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, and is now playing for the national team again, that is truly remarkable.

It also should serve as a huge embarrassment to our very own Juan Mata, who has generally been healthy and in good shape for a long time, yet hasn't featured for Spain in years - not even a benchwarmer but we thought he deserves a 3-year deal at United?
In fairness - it isn't hard to find good Spanish footballers who havent featured for their country for years. What you are seeing with the England-side now - is the same thing (and something that eventually could lead to a trophy) - the quality is so high in some positions, really good players will rarely get a game.
 

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No. Any incident big enough to appear on the soccer Subreddit (as a benchmark) will be reported on by at least a few major outlets. Our media is not concerned with protecting the reputations of our football hooligans domestically or abroad. Quite the opposite, in fact. The majority of stories from France 2016 were disproportionately critical of the English compared to the Russians in my opinion (bearing in mind that Russian groups were premeditating violence months in advance of the tournament, whereas our hooligans had travel bans, so the former's targets often ended up being lone men and families).

As to your other post: to be fair, for whatever else they did, the governments of Thatcher et al. were able to enact effective legislation to end mass-scale hooliganism in England. We went from a nation with a massive hooligan problem in the '70s and '80s to one with almost no serious organised football-related violence in the recent past (though I imagine knives and hydrochloric acid have more than made up for the deficit left behind).

Where Russia assimilates our culture with a few decades of lag, their hooligans get the idea of targeting England supporters in particular from an outdated conception of our status as "top dog" of the hooligan world. The belief is that fecking up an Englishman is a scalp; the reality involves beating up some mildly overweight 45-year-old in front of his kids.

Anyway, that's tangential to the question. Where are you from, mate?
Great post, thanks.
I'm from Croatia mate. I get that Thatcher dealt with it, thing is people here repeat that like parrots without knowing exactly what she did and how. Also when something happen sometimes it's blown out of proportions although there is a problem with football violence. And you're right English still have a reputation if top dogs although situation is totally different compared to the past.
 
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20 minutes in. Belarus the home team with just one shot off target. Looking forward to all the "cowardly" posts from my Dutch friends. :D
 

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Gini Wijnaldum has scored five goals already in these qualifiers, back in his Eredivisie days he was an excellent goal scorer as well from midfield. Such a great and simple player, very nice strike for his second goal.
 

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20 minutes in. Belarus the home team with just one shot off target. Looking forward to all the "cowardly" posts from my Dutch friends. :D
I believe it was just me saying that and I stand by those comments. :D

In this case it's evident when Belarus get the ball they want to counter quick. I have no problem with defensive counter attacking football as long as you actually have the intention to score / win. Belarus commit more men forward than NI did and they play with actual attackers instead of playing a CB as a RW. They should have scored too. Created a couple of very good chances (though we defended poorly again, just like against NI for their one attack. De Ligt looks shaky). It's obvious that this Belarus team lacks quality though. NI have far more talented players.
 

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Gini Wijnaldum has scored five goals already in these qualifiers, back in his Eredivisie days he was an excellent goal scorer as well from midfield. Such a great and simple player, very nice strike for his second goal.
Same with the other midfielders at Liverpool. Nothing special, but does the simple things consistently very well.
 

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De Ligt is arse. His poor start at Juve shot his confidence. If Koeman had any balls he'd give De Vrij the nod.
 

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Sort of funny to see that we are so extremely dependant on Memphis though.
 

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Same with the other midfielders at Liverpool. Nothing special, but does the simple things consistently very well.
I really don't like how we had Van Gaal as a manager who worked with Wijnaldum, then Mourinho who said he was good enough to play for Chelsea back in 2015 yet somehow we ended up with players like Schneiderlin and Fred. Wijnaldum could've been great for us in the style of Fletcher or Park Ji-sung.
 

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I believe it was just me saying that and I stand by those comments. :D

In this case it's evident when Belarus get the ball they want to counter quick. I have no problem with defensive counter attacking football as long as you actually have the intention to score / win. Belarus commit more men forward than NI did and they play with actual attackers instead of playing a CB as a RW. They should have scored too. Created a couple of very good chances (though we defended poorly again, just like against NI for their one attack. De Ligt looks shaky). It's obvious that this Belarus team lacks quality though. NI have far more talented players.
If you mean Paddy McNair he's actually been playing as a midfielder at his club for years now.

I said it in jest, just thought you gave Norn Iron too hard a time the other night. Anyway 70 minutes in and Belarus with just the one shot on target so far. ;) Belarus are also at home so sure Northern Ireland will have some more shots at goal when they play in Belfast next month.
 

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If you mean Paddy McNair he's actually been playing as a midfielder at his club for years now.

I said it in jest, just thought you gave Norn Iron too hard a time the other night. Anyway 70 minutes in and Belarus with just the one shot on target so far. ;) Belarus are also at home so sure Northern Ireland will have some more shots at goal when they play in Belfast next month.
True I was a bit hard on them, and yes McNair might be more of a CDM these days but still he's definitely not an offensive player. You have to admit Belarus have a more positive approach and they've been more successful so far too. They've caused us a good amount of problems whereas NI didn't really. That's a shame because they've shown they're capable of playing some good footy and it's become clear this Dutch defence isn't as solid as it seems on paper so you have a real chance if you come at us with intent.
 

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True I was a bit hard on them, and yes McNair might be more of a CDM these days but still he's definitely not an offensive player. You have to admit Belarus have a more positive approach and they've been more successful so far too. They've caused us a good amount of problems whereas NI didn't really. That's a shame because they've shown they're capable of playing some good footy and it's become clear this Dutch defence isn't as solid as it seems on paper so you have a real chance if you come at us with intent.
It's different home and away though. How well did belarus do when they lost away to Holland 4-0 earlier in the campaign?

Northern Ireland had attacks v Germany in their last home match and could've easily been leading at half time. It was a really good game until Germany scored the first so don't expect anything different v Holland as they'll have to win that for a very slim chance of 2nd.