Manchester United vs Liverpool: right now would you just settle for a draw?

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Everybody predicting a slaughter, but wouldn't take a draw?

I wouldn't go into the game playing for a 0:0, but would be content with a draw.
 

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We're not that bad that we have no chance of beating them. I like that City are playing on Saturday night, and I hope they'll enjoy a resounding victory to send Liverpool a message ahead of our game. Liverpool's defence can be got at this season, and their forwards could have an off day. Defensively we're far from terrible too.

Like all of us - I want the win, but yeah, I think I could live with a draw to end their winning sequence. :D
I disagree, a full-strength Man Utd first XI from available players could win the match, but from the players that are available, the only light I can see is a returning Martial and Rashford therefore improving from being back on his left hand side. Given Martial may not be at full fitness I see nothing but a real chasing.
 

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"You don't remember" and "their 442 game plan didn't particularly work"....when you contradict yourself right from the beginning, I know it's going to be a great reply

As for the rest of your reply, you obviously didn't read my post. If you had, you would know that I was talking about a 4-4-2 diamond and that the wide men I was talking about on the counter who could find space behind your fullbacks were our two strikers. Either way, I'm not saying that we will definitely win with this formation. I just think that this is our best shot at getting a result as opposed to the 4-2-3-1 we have been trying to play...
No need to get annoyed mate. I thought of that famous Mike Tyson quote when I read your post and simply tried to get it into a reply. That's all. But you are right, I didn't properly read your 442 diamond plan with its (forward) variation. Still won't work though, too much running required by both which i imagine will leave the other completely isolated
 

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In times gone by, this is a game that every United fan would be looking forward to. How times have changed at the Theatre of Dreams. Today, this is a game that fills us with dread. The roles are well and truly reversed between ourselves and Liverpool. They are 15 points ahead of us in the league, at a press I can think of two United players that could make their first 11 and in beating us they would equal the record for the number of wins on the spin. There is absolutely nothing about this game to be excited about.

As all derby games anything can happen and because it is Liverpool I am expecting our players to raise their game above and beyond, but in reality if Liverpool perform to their capacity and United perform to theirs Liverpool win every time. To get anything out of the game, United have to do what they have not done so far this season: create, convert and consolidate and hope that Liverpool are just not up for it on the day.

That said, if you offered me a draw right now I would take it.

What are your thoughts?
Obviously....It’s a no brainer really,would definitely settle for a point...
 

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Time for an awkward approach!
Bottle up their front three as best we can and crowd/nullify the midfield, (our back 3 lying deep + 5 midfield (compressed diamond shape with one in centre of diamond to break out when we are going forward) then go long to Rashford/James up front as twin speedy strikers going straight for goal, don't try and pass around their CB's, out pace them. Might pinch a draw!
 

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They didn't play well against either Arsenal or Leicester and scraped points, Leicester with a soft penalty. I can see something similar, either a 0-0 or 1-1,draw, and a crap boring game. This will postpone anything happening for about another week, then they will lose at Norwich and it all starts again
And Sheffield United.

I don’t think they’re as good as their 8 wins from 8 suggests. But we’re really poor. Can we step up and they freeze under pressure? Maybe. We’ve got to score 2 or 3 without reply to get away with a win here I think.
 

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I dont care about result if we put a proper performance and have a go 90 min, not some coward shit, still cant forget our 0:0 at their place during JM, that was next level Sunday league stuff, never seen anything like that before from higher end team.
 

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Everybody predicting a slaughter, but wouldn't take a draw?
Yes.

I don't think our manager is good enough, that we can be successful under him and that we're pretty much sitting around waiting for him to be sacked at some point. Tomorrow's result doesn't change that, whatever happens.

If we lose it will be the most expected result. I'll shrug my shoulders and think that it was going to happen anyway. It won't be quite that easy because it's against them, but when results and expectations meet it is easier to take.

If we draw it will be decent result but I'm not going to ecstatic about it. Still doesn't change anything long-term.

Neither does winning, but if we do I'll be able to properly enjoy a United result for the 3rd time in the whole of 2019 (PSG, Chelsea) get to shout YSB a lot and laugh at the scousers with a big smile on my face. Even though a win tomorrow is rather unlikely it would be a lot of fun so I wouldn't want to rule out that possibility. United and fun are two words that don't go hand in hand these days and I need some, or even the chance of some so I'm not taking a draw.
 

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We can't afford to lose. Depending on the results of the other matches, we could be in the relegation battle if we lost.
 

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I actually think it will be in Manutd's interest to lose. I know some will say 'you're not a true fan', but losing points in the short run and sacking Solskjaer will be a bigger positive than scrapping out a lucky point and keeping Solskjaer for another game.

The latter will lead to further drops in points, but the former will lead to a new manager who actually knows what he is doing. This is far more hopeful and will improve results.
 

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I actually think it will be in Manutd's interest to lose. I know some will say 'you're not a true fan', but losing points in the short run and sacking Solskjaer will be a bigger positive than scrapping out a lucky point and keeping Solskjaer for another game.

The latter will lead to further drops in points, but the former will lead to a new manager who actually knows what he is doing. This is far more hopeful and will improve results.
All this started because PSG was stupid enough to lose to us. They had so many chances yet they failed. It was a one off and now we are stuck.
This is why in these situations emotions have to take a back seat and rational decisions should be made.
 

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Form is out of the window in this fixture. We will take the game to them and beat the reigning european champions or not. Huhu
 

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I actually think it will be in Manutd's interest to lose. I know some will say 'you're not a true fan', but losing points in the short run and sacking Solskjaer will be a bigger positive than scrapping out a lucky point and keeping Solskjaer for another game.
Agree, would rather take a defeat.
The latter will lead to further drops in points, but the former will lead to a new manager who actually knows what he is doing. This is far more hopeful and will improve results.
That said, I don't think sacking him will necessarily lead to this.
 

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Just like united are now just a glorified stoke city. Man city are our rivals now... see what i did there?
Is that the same stoke City that stuck 6 past you in your heroes final match? :lol:
 

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I actually think it will be in Manutd's interest to lose. I know some will say 'you're not a true fan', but losing points in the short run and sacking Solskjaer will be a bigger positive than scrapping out a lucky point and keeping Solskjaer for another game.

The latter will lead to further drops in points, but the former will lead to a new manager who actually knows what he is doing. This is far more hopeful and will improve results.
The same thing was said last year, just replacing Joses name with Oles.
Sacking Solsjkaer definitely doesn't mean getting a manager who knows what he's doing.
It might do, but knowing Woodward? Nah.
 

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Agree, would rather take a defeat.

That said, I don't think sacking him will necessarily lead to this.
We will have to disagree there then. I think Solskjaer is pretty much the worst manager there is, and I think he has the team performing at an even lower level than they should be. This is the thing, I think almost anyone can improve upon him. He has set the bar that low.
 

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I like this cocksure Liverpool fans who seem to have forgotten their club hasn't won the league title in 30 years.

Keep talking :)
 

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I like this cocksure Liverpool fans who seem to have forgotten their club hasn't won the league title in 30 years.

Keep talking :)
The only club in the UCL era never to have won their domestic title. Just waiting for inevitable crucial injuries and some luck afforded to their opposition for once. Oh and I forgot VAR & diving. Said last spring that Citeh would win 5 titles in a row & I still believe that (yes that hurts too) but you have to give somewhere.

Got a funny feeling that we have been so bad & they well lets be real not brilliant but on a crest of a wave that Utd will do them tomorrow. God knows how but hey that's football.
 
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We will have to disagree there then. I think Solskjaer is pretty much the worst manager there is, and I think he has the team performing at an even lower level than they should be. This is the thing, I think almost anyone can improve upon him. He has set the bar that low.
My point is, we can't trust the Glazers/Ed to make the right appointment, even assuming one's available. Just any appointment that's better than Ole isn't good enough really, but that's not to say we should persist with him - I would personally take Van Gaal or Mourinho back because Ole's that bad.
 

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A shitty lucky 1-0 win will do me to end Liverpool’s run. One shot on target to Liverpool’s 100. It’s happened against good United sides in the past. Surely due a bit of luck.
 

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A shitty lucky 1-0 win will do me to end Liverpool’s run. One shot on target to Liverpool’s 100. It’s happened against good United sides in the past. Surely due a bit of luck.
I think we are due a bit of luck. Can’t remember any favourable decisions we’ve had this year, can’t even remember any deflections or proper spawny goals either
 

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Nope. Is it yours?
Given nothing in my post made any reference to Solsjkaers ability as a manager or anyone else's, I'm inclined to disagree.
You either don't have a solid grasp of the language, or you have 6 or 7 phrases that you parrot.
 

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Let's be honest we are fecking awful. The midfield and attack is bottom half standard.
It really is shocking in my opinion, especially because United has such a big reputation, you can't settle for players like this. When they do start challenging for the big trophies, none of the attack/midfield playing for United right now will be anywhere near the first XI.
 

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It really is shocking in my opinion, especially because United has such a big reputation, you can't settle for players like this. When they do start challenging for the big trophies, none of the attack/midfield playing for United right now will be anywhere near the first XI.
This is the point I keep trying to make. We need to progress from where we are now to a position that's high up the table. For that we don't need Dybala or Ronaldo or Sancho.
What we need is players who are better than what we have ( there are plenty) and who doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Move up the table and then once we are ready to challenge for cl spot and trophies, get better players and get rid of the others. We can't go from the 14th position to winning the PL. It's absurd.
 

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It really is shocking in my opinion, especially because United has such a big reputation, you can't settle for players like this. When they do start challenging for the big trophies, none of the attack/midfield playing for United right now will be anywhere near the first XI.
Exactly but people think a new manager will have this squad challenging.