Again the number suggested was £85 million, more than Maguire
James Maddison | Spurs
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For that fee Utd should be looking at other players. He's not even that good in the first place IMO.
Hilariously overrated (and overpriced), I hope we stop our obsession from buying within the PL/British players.
We spunked our entire budget on Maguire this summer when it was obvious we needed more. If we go for players like Maddison, expect the same to happen following season.
Also, stop with the revisionism about 'we set a price nobody was silly enough to pay'. I've seen enough garbage written by Leicester fans in the summer, how market has inflated after van Dijk transfer and given Maguires nationality/quality/length of the contract he's worth £80m. Now the tune has changed, opposition fans being hypocritical will never not be amusing.
We spunked our entire budget on Maguire this summer when it was obvious we needed more. If we go for players like Maddison, expect the same to happen following season.
100%, I still can't understand why we don't want to buy Bruno Fernandes. Perhaps, if he was British.
Given the dire state of our attack, I have no doubt he'll improve us but he'll never be worth the outlay. Just like Maguire, I think he's a good CB but he'll never be an £80m player.
This song has already been done by you (and many other Leicester fans who joined the forum this summer), in the end as predicted Maguire joined a bigger club and everyone disappeared. Your manager in his own words said, Liverpool and Utd will always be a step up from Leicester and he can understand why players would want to move there.
Also, stop with the revisionism about 'we set a price nobody was silly enough to pay'. I've seen enough garbage written by Leicester fans in the summer, how market has inflated after van Dijk transfer and given Maguires nationality/quality/length of the contract he's worth £80m. Now the tune has changed, opposition fans being hypocritical will never not be amusing.
That last line. It's not you and hence your club officials won't make fools of themsleves.I know it's rather unlikely, but I would somehow love to see Pogba and Maddison in the same midfield for us.
Can't speak for other Leicester fans but I never said Maguire wouldn't join you and haven't Maddison won't I have said what the club do, name a price and stick to it, United fans seemed to think we'd cave instead you spent an entire summer negotiating before paying the exact price we named in the first place, who knows Maybe that was Woodward just trying to get out of a months wages?
The Market did inflate after VVD before that the price we named thinking no one would pay probably would have been around £50m, instead it was £30m higher, you're being very defensive over nothing, assuming you're even interested, you'll get told a price, the rest is up to you.
As it happens I cannot remember a player, other than Mahrez playing up when we refused to sell and although it took until the following summer we got the price we wanted, I suspect they will never let a key player leave in January barring an outrageously high bid coming in so part of me is curious how they would deal with a player that kicked off with the team just refusing to meet the price. Obviously I don't want this to happen but I cannot help but wonder
Great, forums are really worth it when this kind of chatter is fizzing back and forth.
I really like Maddison but it depends on how big a budget we have, because he’d cost 80-100m
If we aren't able to get Sancho or Fabian Ruiz type signings, which is likely considering our situation, then Maddison might be someone that we are willing to pay that much for.
Good player that would improve us, but not worth spending 80-100 million on surely. Think we need about 6 signings of players of this level of quality, so we have to find them at half that cost. That’s what are scouting employees are for is it not?
@Kush it looks as though the club were after an attacking player and looked at both Eriksen and Dybala. Very much doubt Maguire was our whole budget.
Ehh, he's okay, but not sure he's the one for United. #10 and RW are the most crucial transfers we need to make right now and if we get them right we'll probably lock down the top four spot. Given woody's leaks / comments on improved transfer policies and data driven scouting, I hope we can do better than buying every half decent young British player around.
After such shit luck in the transfer market for so long, we're overdue for some good transfers and I hope we can turn it around and sign a couple of good players and promote 1-2 from our current crop of young players to first team regulars.
EDIT: I'd personally spend the money on Eriksen this Jan considering his contract situation.
After such shit luck in the transfer market for so long, we're overdue for some good transfers and I hope we can turn it around and sign a couple of good players and promote 1-2 from our current crop of young players to first team regulars.
EDIT: I'd personally spend the money on Eriksen this Jan considering his contract situation.
It’s funny how you could probably get Coutinho; Isco and Fernandes for cheaper.
Coutinho is not coming for 70m.
Who’s buying Coutinho for that price? Don’t be silly.
Isco or Fernandes would cost around 70m and both are better than Maddison.
I know they are. But yet if true we want to waste money on the latter whilst been told our transfer policies are improving.
Don’t be a Grandad. Just because you’re not cool. Would you like him if he said he loves and pint and listens to Smashing pumpkins.
Fernandes hasn’t done sod all outside of the Portuguese league to suggest that.
maddison looks a star and has regularly done well in the big games. while Fernandes might be of similar quality it would be a far bigger risk to pay the same sort of money required.
I agree maddison has done well in big games but to pay 85m+ for him seems a bit over the top.
yeah, 40m for Maddison and we'll throw in Rojo or Young.
Or a straight no money swap for Fred.
Or a straight no money swap for Fred.
Maddison has hardly set the league on fire, he has 9 goals and 9 assists in 47 games for Leicester. Keep in mind this is a player they bought for £11m eighteen months ago. There's no possible justification of his value going up by 10x in space of that time. Furthemore, that sort of productivity from a #10 is just not good enough for silly money Leicester would demand.
Fernandes was quoted at £60m last summer and last time I checked we don't have bottomless pit of money, we need reinforcements in several areas of pitch and cannot afford to drop £90-100m on Maddison.
He'll replace Pogba, which is fine. He's better suited to the number 10 role, and Pogba just hasn't been good enough for us. In all honesty, if we can get 150M for Pogba, and then sign Maddison and Sancho for around 170-180M combined, we'll have a net outlay for 20-30M and be a much better team.
After that we'd need a bonafide quality DM, a quality left back to supplant Shaw, and another striker for the rotation. If we ship out Matic for 10M odd, have Lukaku, Sanchez and Pogba wages off the books. I could see us investing 150M net, which after the deals mentioned above would give us 130-140M to bring in a striker, defensive midfielder, and left back. If you have Maddison as your 10, a good highly technical creative player, and McTominay as the 8 who is bringing box-to-box energy, work rate and physicality, I would want us to bring in a 6 that is in the Carrick type mould. A player whose technical and positional attributes are to the fore, rather than the physical. If we are going to continue to look to fast counters, you really need a player who can split the lines with his passing, as well as accurately switch play at a moment's notice. Basically, not a Dier or Rice. We don't need a bruiser, we need a conductor.
Personally, I feel there have to be better players than Maddison out there for the type of money we are talking. But we seem to be really hot and heavy for him. So I've kinda accepted it. On the plus side his final ball is really good, he's PL proven already, and is only 22.
After that we'd need a bonafide quality DM, a quality left back to supplant Shaw, and another striker for the rotation. If we ship out Matic for 10M odd, have Lukaku, Sanchez and Pogba wages off the books. I could see us investing 150M net, which after the deals mentioned above would give us 130-140M to bring in a striker, defensive midfielder, and left back. If you have Maddison as your 10, a good highly technical creative player, and McTominay as the 8 who is bringing box-to-box energy, work rate and physicality, I would want us to bring in a 6 that is in the Carrick type mould. A player whose technical and positional attributes are to the fore, rather than the physical. If we are going to continue to look to fast counters, you really need a player who can split the lines with his passing, as well as accurately switch play at a moment's notice. Basically, not a Dier or Rice. We don't need a bruiser, we need a conductor.
Personally, I feel there have to be better players than Maddison out there for the type of money we are talking. But we seem to be really hot and heavy for him. So I've kinda accepted it. On the plus side his final ball is really good, he's PL proven already, and is only 22.
United again will be splashing cash for marketing purposes... Instead they should be focusing on solidifying their midfield. Get players like Ndidi and Partey. Instead of spending crazy on Sancho, get a young quality left footed right winger like Chukwueze. if you really want to spend crazy money and get a star, spend it on getting a sure shot proven striker like Kane, if he is ungettable, go for Timo Werner or Erling Braut Håland.
I have a feeling, Ole wants to build a team around class of 92 model, but man utd 07 to 09 is a more suitable model with players we already have.
I have a feeling, Ole wants to build a team around class of 92 model, but man utd 07 to 09 is a more suitable model with players we already have.
Can't help but feel we'd get better value elsewhere but I'm resigned to this happening.
Long live Brexit United.
Long live Brexit United.
Honestly Maddison would be crazy to leave Leicester for us. If they keep that current form until the end of the season, they'll get top four easily. Rodgers is really building something there.
He clearly loves money due to his casino habit. Imagine the stakes he could place at Disney World?
If he was after only money he would already be playing in China or Qatar
Actually he apparently gives his winnings to charity quite often and just enjoys playing poker
That doesn’t suit the narrative at all.The daily heil or the sun won’t like that.
Statistically speaking, that is an inefficient way to donate to charity
Sancho alone will cost close to 150m.
Don't think he'll cost 150 but I can see dortmund asking for 110+30 or something, assuming he even wants to come here. At the same time, no way are we getting 150 mill for Pogba. We'll be lucky to get 120 IMO
Overpriced, overrated, and British.
A United signing if I ever saw one.
This guy comes with the bonus that he is also a massive cnut.
A United signing if I ever saw one.
This guy comes with the bonus that he is also a massive cnut.
Very good player and would definitely improve us but for the price and saga trying to get him from Leicester, we are better off going for other options.
Bruno Fernandes is a similar sort of player, is at a good age to move to a bigger club and is used to playing under pressure being the star of the Sporting side and featuring for Portugal. Sporting have basically accepted he is going to leave and we were willing to let him leave in the summer for a reasonable price if rumours are to be believed. Why he didn't move? Who knows, but from reports his price tag is around £40-50m.
We need to strengthen to many positions to be paying over £80m for one player. We did so with Maguire in the end and it probably cost us getting another player this summer. Unless the player is WC or a top top youngster like Sancho then we should stay clear of fee's like that for good players like Maddison who is overvalued due to being English an playing for a club with a bit of money.
Bruno Fernandes is a similar sort of player, is at a good age to move to a bigger club and is used to playing under pressure being the star of the Sporting side and featuring for Portugal. Sporting have basically accepted he is going to leave and we were willing to let him leave in the summer for a reasonable price if rumours are to be believed. Why he didn't move? Who knows, but from reports his price tag is around £40-50m.
We need to strengthen to many positions to be paying over £80m for one player. We did so with Maguire in the end and it probably cost us getting another player this summer. Unless the player is WC or a top top youngster like Sancho then we should stay clear of fee's like that for good players like Maddison who is overvalued due to being English an playing for a club with a bit of money.
I don’t get this Pogba bashing from our fans. Why would we long for Madison when we have a true world class midfielder? Sure Madison can play alongside him but I guarantee Pogba will be the better player.
It will even take Sancho at least a few years before he’s Pogba’s level imo. The problem we have is having to play Pogba deeper atm.
Your whole assessment is lazy as feck but this part was extra shit and lazy.
His best position is no 10 while his other position is on the left. However, sometime he reminds me a bit of Beckham with his main asset is crossing, passing & set pieces. He is surely has the potential to be the new Beckham which makes me think whether he can develop his game on the right side to be the new Beckham or no.
That's never gonna happen. What is it with the caf and Sancho
?My assessment might be lazy, but that does not make it untrue.