yeah, I guess it just boils down to how easy it is to circumvent FFP rules
we'd be quoted £100m for average players I am sure
top players, £200m to £300m? It would get pretty crazy
Opposition to Saudi Arabian Take Over
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we'd be quoted £100m for average players I am sure
top players, £200m to £300m? It would get pretty crazy
Yep.
it would be a dark dark day in our history.....
not sure how I would feel but I dont think youd lose the love for the club.
not sure how I would feel but I dont think youd lose the love for the club.
It is out of my love for United that I’d stop supporting the club.
anyone think it might be emotional blackmail from the owners? stop giving us loads of grief or we will sell to these people
I think it's propaganda from the glazers and Ed. Ed has come out swinging in the last few days.
So you’d choose to enjoy the oppressive dangerous conditions that the Palestinians have had to endure for decades?
For me it’s a biased perspective to have. Only difference is that Glazers are indirectly supporting cold blooded murder and MBS has directly been responsible for it. That for me is a fair enough difference to be against one form of ownership over the other but anyone who says Saudi is a worse regime than the Israelis is either a Zionist or talking out of their arse.
All will be forgiven as soon as they send Ed packing and unleash the yearly £500m war chest 
If you are talking about the crimes that the regimes have committed, then who knows how much either of them have done that went unreported. I for one do not trust our journalists to dig deep for the truly horrifying stories (and who can blame them considering the danger they would be in). I think that Israel in particular does a lot of evil that goes unreported or that covered up by the Mossad.
But clearly on the face of it, Israel is the more progressive country. It was illegal for a woman to drive a car in Saudi Arabia as recently as 2018. The Saudis might be the most oppressive regime to live under outside the communist dictatorship countries (and they are even worse in some ways).
Why Qatar and UAE is fine (for PSG and City) while Saudi Arabia is not for Man Utd?
Actually, it is not quite the right forum to discuss global political preferences (especially considering the fact that only a small minority of Man Utd supporters live in England).
What is more, it is beyond laughable to put an equality sign between something that is a) a matter of fact and b) reported by English (or American) media or political establishment
Actually, it is not quite the right forum to discuss global political preferences (especially considering the fact that only a small minority of Man Utd supporters live in England).
What is more, it is beyond laughable to put an equality sign between something that is a) a matter of fact and b) reported by English (or American) media or political establishment
I'd completely understand anyone's opposition to this takeover. I personally couldn't stop supporting the club and I think with time, most people will not be complaining if we are competitive again.
I think the interest is real, but I think the story and narrative is being driven by the Glazers, almost as if to say this is who you are going to get if we decide to sell and leave like you want us to.
What is this shit. Ha ha ha.
What would all these anti Saudi fans do with themselves when they stop supporting Utd after the takeover?
Superglue themselves to the gates at old Trafford in an extinction rebellion type protest?
Let's stick with the glazers and watch the club slowly go down the shitter.
Superglue themselves to the gates at old Trafford in an extinction rebellion type protest?
Let's stick with the glazers and watch the club slowly go down the shitter.
I disagree with a lot of comments here. For those who live in Western countries, your government probably does deals with the Saudi's (selling weapons) and other stuff. If you don't protest against your government for that, why would you oppose this?
I guess it would be a pretty strange line to oppose Saudi ownership and vote Tory, who sell weapons to them for their phoney wars
Though I am biased as I think voting Tory is an absurd line to take to begin with!
Every year a thread like this pops up without any substantial news behind it.
Glazers do not need to sell. They are pulling fat dividends and the price will be astronomical for any foreign investor (Saudi's in that case too).
I wouldn't be too worried about it.
Glazers do not need to sell. They are pulling fat dividends and the price will be astronomical for any foreign investor (Saudi's in that case too).
I wouldn't be too worried about it.
Eventually the money will dry out. Sponsors won't be forking ridiculous amounts of money on a 12th place team lead by some random guy and his group of very average honest players who get what playing for Manchester United means. In my opinion the time to sell is now. Player's fees and salaries are going up to the ridiculous, we've got a huge rebuilding to be made and the club is going nowhere. That requires ridiculous amounts of investment.
I didn't start supporting United for who they were owned by, I didn't stop supporting it when Glazers took over, I wouldn't stop supporting it if Saudis took over, cnuts that they are.
The most important question is, will @Niall shut down Redcafe if MBS buys the club?
We have already spent multi millions and got nothing to show for it.
Not sure why people are assuming that a Saudi takeover would put us back on the map – surely it would just be even more scaled up, aimless spending.
Not sure why people are assuming that a Saudi takeover would put us back on the map – surely it would just be even more scaled up, aimless spending.
If Saudi in = Woodward out, I’m listening.
I read that the guy brought a fecking painting for 500 million dollars. These Middle-East billionaires don't give a feck.
How would the club whore itself out? The club has owners and they’re responsible for whom ever it would be sold to.
Exactly - I suspect I'd feel a bit like I'd been dumped by a childhood girlfriend who had grown up to become an absolutely horrible person - I'd be torn between hating what United would have become, and obsessively still checking United news articles....
But I couldn't keep on supporting the club - not while they're owned by the likes of the house of Saud.
Worst case scenario: sold to tyrannical regime with condition of sale that Ed remain as chief exec
False equivalency. I really wish people would stop with this. You don't choose your citizenship.
If you have no problem with Suadi ownership, then own it. Please quit making random comparisons.
I think the Saudi's would want a lot more say in transfers than the current owners.
All this is total bollocks I'm afraid. I get that SA is a pretty shady place. But.....
USA illegally invented a reason to go into Iraq and slaughtered thousands of people. Did Iraq once attack or threaten the US? Nope. Did weapons of Mass Destruction ever exist? Nope. I bet you'd have no issues still going to US on holiday though.
1 journalist gets killed and oh the outrage. I'm not condoning their actions one bit but we need to look a bit closer to home too ourselves. We aren't all perfect. We entered into that illegal war with the US too and let's be honest it was for oil.
USA illegally invented a reason to go into Iraq and slaughtered thousands of people. Did Iraq once attack or threaten the US? Nope. Did weapons of Mass Destruction ever exist? Nope. I bet you'd have no issues still going to US on holiday though.
1 journalist gets killed and oh the outrage. I'm not condoning their actions one bit but we need to look a bit closer to home too ourselves. We aren't all perfect. We entered into that illegal war with the US too and let's be honest it was for oil.
Saudi is a far worse regime than Israel.
I don't like my country doing business deals with them either but the government doesn't care what the people think. I couldn't stop supporting the club if the Saudis bought us but I would no longer put any effort or money into watching games or anything to do with the club.
I survived the Glazers, so I'll probably stick around after a Saudi takeover.
White washing a regimes human rights record by owning a foothall team doesn't work. Look at PSG and City, being in the spotlight has shone more light on their owners.
I'd support the club, and still stand against the human rights abuses the Saudis commit.
White washing a regimes human rights record by owning a foothall team doesn't work. Look at PSG and City, being in the spotlight has shone more light on their owners.
I'd support the club, and still stand against the human rights abuses the Saudis commit.
I for one welcome our new evil overlords
We elect our governments, don't we? I don't see mass protests against Saudi weapon deals other than the occasional human rights activist groups protest.
You state it like it's a fact. Probably a topic for another thread, but in terms of destabilizing neighbors and human rights abuses they are very comparable. Who's worse is a matter of opinion.
Same
On one side there is United whom I can't stop loving and on the other side there are these Saudi monsters whom I can't stop hating.
I simply cannot take a decision and mostly will quit watching football (EPL) if these people buy United.
Wish the take over never happens.
Is there any chance that United can be run like Barca or Real?!
I simply cannot take a decision and mostly will quit watching football (EPL) if these people buy United.
Wish the take over never happens.
Is there any chance that United can be run like Barca or Real?!
As much as i love Manchester United, im not going to be okay about owners that admit to kill reporters that speaks the truth just to see us win something.
You do realise many people in this country, myself included, vote for a political party that have pledged to stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia? The Tory Government in no way represent me or my views and I would never vote for them.
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