39 Bodies found in a lorry in Essex.

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So many questions. Where was he transporting them to? How do you dispose of so many bodies without alerting suspicion? Are they dead immigrants or is he a serial killer? Probably dead immigrants tbf, but how did they all (I'm assuming all?!) die?
 

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So many questions. Where was he transporting them to? How do you dispose of so many bodies without alerting suspicion? Are they dead immigrants or is he a serial killer? Probably dead immigrants tbf, but how did they all (I'm assuming all?!) die?
Carbon Monoxide? Lack of Oxygen? Heat Stress? Cold? Could be a whole range of things I guess.
 

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Jaysus, one of the episodes of that new Criminal UK show was about a guy who did this and I thought it was too farfetched when I watched it.
 

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Carbon Monoxide? Lack of Oxygen? Heat Stress? Cold? Could be a whole range of things I guess.
Won't be cold with the number of people crammed in a confined space. The most likely scenario will be lack of oxygen.
 

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How did they find out there were bodies? Random check? If so, why after he travelled so far
 

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Jaysus, one of the episodes of that new Criminal UK show was about a guy who did this and I thought it was too farfetched when I watched it.
Literally thought this too!

Such a tragedy it’s crazy how people take advantage of others in desperate situations.
 

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Conveniently timed don’t you think?

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39 innocent men, women and children have died. All those lives lost.

If anyone asks for a hard border that leads to more deaths, they've got a fecking nerve.

Some of the light hearted comments in this thread all a bit beyond the pale, in my opinion.
 

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So you go to all the trouble of getting these people into the Country via Holyhead, and then drive them to the other side of the Country. Doesnt make sense. Why wouldnt you let them out somewhere along the way? Surely getting them into the Country in itself is job done.
 

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39 innocent men, women and children have died. All those lives lost.

If anyone asks for a hard border that leads to more deaths, they've got a fecking nerve.

Some of the light hearted comments in this thread all a bit beyond the pale, in my opinion.
I agree. I don't see any laughing matter here.
 

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So you go to all the trouble of getting these people into the Country via Holyhead, and then drive them to the other side of the Country. Doesnt make sense. Why wouldnt you let them out somewhere along the way? Surely getting them into the Country in itself is job done.
Not if they're being trafficked etc
 

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So you go to all the trouble of getting these people into the Country via Holyhead, and then drive them to the other side of the Country. Doesnt make sense. Why wouldnt you let them out somewhere along the way? Surely getting them into the Country in itself is job done.
I still think there is a NI connection here, they could have already been in the UK (Northern Ireland), and being moved to London. I am still thinking sex workers. All adults and one teenager, no children etc.
 

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That's absolutely horrific - they probably died in transit - refrigerated unit which possibly restricts the amount of oxygen in the container - though I guess we will find out.
 

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39 innocent men, women and children have died. All those lives lost.

If anyone asks for a hard border that leads to more deaths, they've got a fecking nerve.

Some of the light hearted comments in this thread all a bit beyond the pale, in my opinion.
I’m not laughing fella. I’m serious
 

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39 innocent men, women and children have died. All those lives lost.

If anyone asks for a hard border that leads to more deaths, they've got a fecking nerve.

Some of the light hearted comments in this thread all a bit beyond the pale, in my opinion.
Also quite staggered but not that surprised ...

Corbyn just spoke with horrifying candour about trying to imagine what it must have been like to be in that lorry for so many days, filling with hope you you've arrived, and then the torture of dying in this way.

May they all be remembered and rest in peace.
 

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They probably did not die all at once as well. Nightmare.
 

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I would guess that the lorry driver isn't some smuggler.

Imagine how he's feeling right now, and the owner of his firm.

Pales in comparison to the families who died of course
 

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Personally I don't think they got on the lorry in Bulgaria, why come in to Hollyhead to drive all the way down to Essex, it makes no sense?
There is somewhat of a possible explanation in that Irish News article posted above. Suggestion is that checks in Dover - Calais have gotten so effective that a route via Cherbourg - Rosslare - Dublin, while much longer, might incur less checks.
 

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There is somewhat of a possible explanation in that Irish News article posted above. Suggestion is that checks in Dover - Calais have gotten so effective that a route via Cherbourg - Rosslare - Dublin, while much longer, might incur less checks.
Yeah I think they came in from Dublin, NI driver and all. Very sad.
 

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The assumptions seem to be that these people were brought into the UK from Bulgaria or somewhere along the route. Seems possible however that they were loaded here, to be sent out of the UK.
 

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The whole thing is just so horrible to think about. These murderous scum who prey on the desperate and vulnerable are among the most evil people on this planet.