Bournemouth 1:0 Manchester United

DomesticTadpole · Nov 2, 2019

VeevaVee said:
It's genuinely astounding. Yet another part of my theory about footballers not being as good with a football as many think they are.

You wonder how many put extra work in, or it is come into training, then off home as soon as it's over. If you aren't particularly great at something surely you would work at changing that?

mu4c_20le · Nov 2, 2019

No eye dear said:
All players are coachable, it's getting the right coaches

Even the right coaches need the right players. Why do you think Klopp pretty much replaced the entire XI?

Leftback99 · Nov 2, 2019

No eye dear said:
All players are coachable, it's getting the right coaches

'Coachable' to what?

Am i coachable into a starter for City under Guardiola? What's the difference? Every player has a limit to how good they can be.

VeevaVee · Nov 2, 2019

DomesticTadpole said:
You wonder how many put extra work in, or it is come into training, then off home as soon as it's over. If you aren't particularly great at something surely you would work at changing that?

You know, I was thinking the other day - I wonder how many really analyse their game and look to improve every aspect of it? Really study it, more than just going through a few clips with the team as part of training, and then work on it as much as they possibly can. I bet very few. Considering it's the top level and the amount they get paid I don't think it'd be too much to ask, and I bet a lot of people would scoff at the thought of it.

And that's well beyond getting the basics right.

Betson · Nov 2, 2019

Normal service resumed , our worst start to a season for over 30 years.

Apart form a few minutes towards the end of the game there was no urgency or any pace at all to our play.

Seen a stat that we have not been able to rescue one point yet from any match were we have went a goal down , we know there is not much quality in the squad but that stat also shows a lack of character in the team as well.

OhGee · Nov 2, 2019

mav_9me said:
Just realised it was a 6 pointer for us vs Bournemouth. Sigh.

Don’t worry mate we will plenty of these 6 pointers - next week is another with Brighton and then Sheffield Utd after the break...oh the levels to what we’ve become.....

Mingus · Nov 2, 2019

We're light on quality. Rashford's body language looked like he wasn't quite fit after the knock on Wednesday, Martial was a lamp post again and others looked like they were struggling with the conditions. AWB looks like he hasn't got over his illness fully yet.

A Maddison or Eriksen in place of Perreira today would have resulted in a win but with what we've got the result was not a surprise. 2 or 3 quality players in January will give us some idea where we are going.

Williams and Tuanzebe have been major pluses, maybe more can step up.

DomesticTadpole · Nov 2, 2019

VeevaVee said:
You know, I was thinking the other day - I wonder how many really analyse their game and look to improve every aspect of it? Really study it, more than just going through a few clips with the team as part of training, and then work on it as much as they possibly can. I bet very few. Considering it's the top level and the amount they get paid I don't think it'd be too much to ask, and I bet a lot of people would scoff at the thought of it.

And that's well beyond getting the basics right.

They are well paid, so why would they? How often do you hear a players say they want to become the best in their position. It is usually the generic wanting to win trophies. Ronaldo wanted to be the best player in the world and worked and worked at it. You hope our lot are not just satisfied with the financial rewards they get.

Jaap · Nov 2, 2019

No penalties or individual brilliance to bail us out. We‘re average because we have an average Manager.

DFreshKing · Nov 2, 2019

Dire movement from all the forward players today. They don't find space between the lines, down the channels, short, nothing. A couple of chances early on from James delivery then pretty much nothing. I can't see where it is going, Greenwood needs a bit of luck as he showed some much needed movement when he came on and I don't care if Williams is still in nappies he has to force Young out of the team. This set up needs fast overlapping fullbacks and he clearly showed that when he came on. What's with all the square and backward passing! The number of times we had the ball in the final third and somehow ended 'the move' outside our own box was infuriating.

Suedesi · Nov 2, 2019

One step forward, three backward
RINSE
REPEAT

hobbers · Nov 2, 2019

Jaap said:
No penalties or individual brilliance to bail us out. We‘re average because we have an average Manager.

Calling him average is way too kind to Ole.

Without the delusional sentimental blinkers that we have, no other club on this planet would hire Ole over, say, a Roy Hodgson, Sean Dyche, or even a fecking Steve Bruce.

Tel074 · Nov 2, 2019

Jaap said:
No penalties or individual brilliance to bail us out. We‘re average because we have an average Manager.

Bollocks . We are average because our players are average . We had Jose who has won at every club and them players where as shit under him . We need a clear out and thankfully it's began .. Pep couldnt get a turn out of the crap we have

Bruce Wayne · Nov 2, 2019

No penalty, no win.

Poor defending for the goal. AWB aside, Lindelof was a spectator.

Banana Republic · Nov 2, 2019

5 points off a relegation spot. We still have nothing up front in the way of creating clear cut chances.

If we must take any positives out of this display, AWB and James put in a good first half performance, McT bossed it until he faded in the 2nd half and Fred put in a really good shift, with huge energy and very few errors.

TheReligion · Nov 2, 2019

Deserved a point at least. Howe talking out of his ring piece saying they deserved to win. Sucker punch before half time changed the game and we got going too late in the second. This will keep happening until we get a good number 10 or Pogba back in the midfield.

Camilo · Nov 2, 2019

MadDogg said:
Started very well for the first 10-15 minutes. Then it was like somebody flipped a switch and we were slow, predictable and dire for the rest of the match.

That'll have been the moment Bournemouth realised how utterly shit we are.... We didn't stop playing, they started.

Camilo · Nov 2, 2019

Put a clueless nobody in charge and you get what you get. He'll be gone by next weekend.

Pathetic.

croadyman · Nov 2, 2019

I know many won't agree with this but this winning away run happened due to a combination of a penalty, Norwich being awful and giving us space and Chelsea resting their main players for the league.

Worried for Brighton next Sunday because they are now in form and will probably come with a low block. We just don't have the craft to break those kind of teams down.

fps · Nov 2, 2019

Wasn’t very good was it. I mean, there’s no player you can rely on to create chances, and no player you can rely on to take them. So it’s tricky.

Realist08 · Nov 2, 2019

It’s dire times. Under qualified manager, no squad depth, inexperience all round. Back to reality.

Fridge chutney · Nov 2, 2019

Wasn't too bad. An average of about 7/10 performance. Sometimes you don't get the run of the green. Martial gets the pen and its a different match.

He'lmurderyah15 · Nov 2, 2019

VeevaVee said:
You know, I was thinking the other day - I wonder how many really analyse their game and look to improve every aspect of it? Really study it, more than just going through a few clips with the team as part of training, and then work on it as much as they possibly can. I bet very few. Considering it's the top level and the amount they get paid I don't think it'd be too much to ask, and I bet a lot of people would scoff at the thought of it.

And that's well beyond getting the basics right.[/

When you see the same mistakes from the same players week in week out you would have to question it. Fred is forever taking the ball off the back four with his back to the players closing him down, he's a liability for being nicked from the side and counter attacked.

Pereira receives the ball constantly with his head down. You always hear about them creative players being two or three plays ahead in their head, he seems to just play the play as it comes to him. (If that makes sense) Very frustrating to watch these same mistakes every week

ayushreddevil9 · Nov 2, 2019

Era of false dawns

Hughie77 · Nov 2, 2019

Can someone tell me why he's persisting in playing A Young? The boy Brandon Williams came on we created 2 chances , Greenwood hit post, Mctominay had shot saved. I really think Brandon Williams needs to start more games.

settembrini · Nov 2, 2019

Disappointing result but not too unexpected given how little time we had to rest and prepare for this game in comparison to Bournemouth.

Not a match we can learn anything knew from either. We need better attackers. Our stating #10 was Pereira and he did nothing good... so we brought on Lingard who did nothing good... if the game had lasted another hour we would have brought on Mata and watched him do nothing good as well. This lack of quality has to be addressed in January.

Hughie77 · Nov 2, 2019

croadyman said:
I know many won't agree with this but this winning away run happened due to a combination of a penalty, Norwich being awful and giving us space and Chelsea resting their main players for the league.

Worried for Brighton next Sunday because they are now in form and will probably come with a low block. We just don't have the craft to break those kind of teams down.

Agree B

croadyman said:
I know many won't agree with this but this winning away run happened due to a combination of a penalty, Norwich being awful and giving us space and Chelsea resting their main players for the league.

Worried for Brighton next Sunday because they are now in form and will probably come with a low block. We just don't have the craft to break those kind of teams down.

agree Brighton after a Europa league game, it's going to be another tough game because this is not Brighton from last season. There much better. I expect Brighton to get at least a draw or better.

Beans · Nov 2, 2019

I like Lingard, for when you need a defensive winger, but asking him to come on and change a game is unfair to his skill set. But who else do we have? Greenwood is the only player who can come off the bench and score. It's a problem.

Cathy Ferguson · Nov 2, 2019

Pereira and Fred wasted good opportunities in the first half, and their goal was a defensive shambles. Ole must be furious. Not replacing Lukaku and Herrera is getting more costly for every week.

The Irish Connection · Nov 2, 2019

ayushreddevil9 said:
Era of false dawns

Absolutely. Every time we've gathered a bit of momentum or had a chance to climb the table in the last 6 years we've bottled it.
At least arsenal have been similarly poor.

FC Ronaldo · Nov 2, 2019

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Stookie · Nov 2, 2019

So fed up with football

Barnslig · Nov 3, 2019

tony54 said:
I just think too many of our squad are not coachable. The way we play crab football and don't attack and defend as a pack is undefendable. It's all just pathetic and it's all to easy to blame the whole set up at United, players , coaches and executives.

Agreed, which is why I believe we've seen little to no improvements going through Moyes, LvG, Mourinho and now Ole. Changing the manager at this time will have a little "new-manager-bounce" just as we did under our previous managers and we'll rapidly turn to shit again, whereas people will start calling for the next guys head. We're creating our own version of the boom-bust-cycle and it's fecking embarrasing.

redmanx · Nov 3, 2019

Tel074 said:
Bollocks . We are average because our players are average . We had Jose who has won at every club and them players where as shit under him . We need a clear out and thankfully it's began .. Pep couldnt get a turn out of the crap we have

Ive said before Ole is working with players who were simply not good enough even 5 years ago and hes trying to force square pegs into round holes or tailor the team to suit what hes got. When hes got the players he wants, not the shambles he inherited from Moyes, VG & Mourinho then we will hopefully see where Ole is taking us and if the results are still poor then we can start talking about another manager. I never expected miracles when Ole was appointed but a gradual clear out of the squad culminating in a return to consistency and winning, but it takes time.

jeepers · Nov 3, 2019

Everything was far too slow and ponderous. Ashley Young starting. Ashley Young trying to be captain but just looking like a whiny kid who keeps complaining to the ref. No movement off the ball. Passing was crap. First touches were crap. Set pieces were crap. Lingard substitution was crap. Lack of any contingency plan was crap.

Team looked like they were a bunch of new players playing together for the first time.

Turned off the telly once I saw Lingard stripping off his kit.

Watched the Liverpool - Villa game after and my non-United supporting mates pointed out how ironic that Liverpool is playing pretty much like how United used to play - attacking, fluid football, and how we are now utter shite like how Liverpool used to be. Although I don’t remember Liverpool ever playing this shite.

Honestly, I would accept the losses a tad bit better if we started the likes of Garner, Gomes, Chong, Mitchell, Greenwood, etc

Tel074 · Nov 3, 2019

redmanx said:
Ive said before Ole is working with players who were simply not good enough even 5 years ago and hes trying to force square pegs into round holes or tailor the team to suit what hes got. When hes got the players he wants, not the shambles he inherited from Moyes, VG & Mourinho then we will hopefully see where Ole is taking us and if the results are still poor then we can start talking about another manager. I never expected miracles when Ole was appointed but a gradual clear out of the squad culminating in a return to consistency and winning, but it takes time.

I couldn't agree more and honestly this is the opinion of 90 % of the people I talk to at matches . We are in a complete mess as a club and it needs a proper rebuild . If Ole is the man i don't know but the rebuild is needed and I'm happy to allow him another year at it before we start going crazy .

MikeeMike · Nov 3, 2019

Devoid of any creativity in final third. Zero movement off the ball. Corners are cringeworthy to watch (back stick Maguire).
Very sad to watch.

littleman · Nov 3, 2019

Fortunately, for all of you who's saying you're willing to give Ole another chance for a year, it's not your decision to make. You're a fan, not an owner.

Results will speak for themselves

Bondi77 · Nov 3, 2019

That was rubbish but it just seems we are a mid table side now and that is not going to change when Pogba comes back as he is as inconsistent as anyone that took the field today.
The coverage I had had Giggs and Townsend in the studio and I was gob smacked when they both predicted a three one victory to us before the game.
We were played off the park in our last Euro game and we won with a Wonder goal with virtually our strongest team against a weakened Chelski team and while we played well against Norwich it just highlights how inconsistent we are.
It does annoy me a little that Ole refuses to show any negativity towards our side that in a way it is accepting the mediocrity in the side.

VanHaal'sRedArmy · Nov 3, 2019

Eddie Howe is 3x the manager than Ole.

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