Even still. Murder carries a mandatory sentence of Life imprisonment if the defendant is 21 or over - we all know that this copper isn't going down for that long. Manslaughter by an Unlawful and Dangerous Act is reasonable - maybe even still a little harsh depending on the circumstances which have suspiciously been kept so secretive for 3 years.
booooooooo
Gung ho is the last way most people around the world would describe British Cops. Now I’m older, I realise that one of the reasons crime in this country is so out of control is because people can get away with verbally trash talking officers quite a lot before they actually get arrested, if they even do.
When was the last time you saw a Cop admitting any culpability or responsability for their acts...
But it's far more out of control in other countries where police regularly shoot people?
When was the last time that a doctor admitted culpability? It doesn't happen. You go after a doctor and the hospital close ranks. Admitting culpability unfortunately opens up possibility of compensation which is a dangerous precedent for such a confrontational line of work.
Yeah that gives them the right to grind a person's head into the pavement and stick their knees into the back of his neck with 5 other burly coppers sitting on the guy being apprehended. Yeah he may be acting like a prick but they still go in heavy handed at times.
Still harmless.
Um, that's yer job! The public don't owe you anything. You chose that career, you get paid for it. You get the hate because a lot of you abuse the position entrusted to you.
Aye, knowing the mechanics of a taser, this will be an interesting case.
Ah the usual nonsense of someone who has no idea on what it takes to restrain someone. Yeah sure some cops around the world are wankers and trust me when I say they’re disliked by other coppers more than you can imagine but as a grown man I’d think you’d be able to not tar everyone with the same brush. I mean it’s something kids are taught.
As someone who's been one of those 5 cops sat on one person, its done because its much safer for them. Its a lot lot easier to safely restrain a person with numerous people each taking one limb, rather than just one of you fighting to control someone, which is where you have to resort to higher levels of violence.
Are you a copper?
I respect police officers immensely for what they do for us. On the other hand I’ve been in the wrong end of shit behaviour by police and that does make it harder to appreciate what they do. When someone in a position of power abuses that power you can’t really feel more helpless. It’s a funny one because in my mind the police force will attract some of the best and worst of society.
That’s bullshit. Those people who hate the police are probably the same ones that attack fire crews and ambulance staff and anyone else deemed as authoritative. Police are too soft in my opinion.
Christ you're very tiresome in this thread. You don't like the police, we get it. Stop repeating yourself.
I've only ever had good experiences with British Police, can't praise them enough.
Sums up a lot of ignorance right there.
That's absolute bollocks. A lot of people hate police because of the system rather than the police themselves. I have seen many cases of racial profiling - the amount of stories I've heard amongst friends of them being stopped and searched when they were on the way to the gym, but being fine when in a suit or being questioned when in a nice car. I have had a friend wrongly beaten to near inches of his life by police and then get sued by the police (luckily he won and then sued for damages and won a lot of money). The policeman in question has been reprimanded, but that isn't enough when there appears to be a systemic issue. It's both a case of a few bad apples spoiling it for the many and also police initiatives, namely stop and search laws, that make people of colour distrustful. Some people hate police because its an institution that can remind them of racism, some because there is a consistent lack of accountability, some because they protect their own before owning up to their mistakes.
Amazing the amount of mechanic haters that call us when their cars break down!
You don't like my point of view. You know what you can do.
Depends on your definition of tame. Sure, interactions with UK cops aren't nearly as deadly as those in the States but I'd argue that's more of a byproduct of less accessibility to deadly weapons than some underlying tameness. Deaths after police contact have been a major issue in the UK for decades and it's only getting worse, especially for BAME people like myself:
It’s not bollox though. Police are too soft. They’re not allowed to do anything anymore for fear of being branded forceful or racist. Not just the police though, the prison system, the justice system. It comes to something when society celebrates criminals.
The main impression I get when I watch videos of US cops that reach the news or go viral is not that they are racist, aggressive, terrible people etc (although these also apply in a lot of cases), it is that they seem to genuinely have psychological problems. The speed at which they can resort to force or aggravate an unthreatening situation is terrifying.
I was responding to your crazy assertion that people who hate police beat up fire fighters. I was pointing out that a fair amount of people have very legitimate reasons to hate the police, but if you want to ignore that and think that instead of getting to the root of certain issues it would be better to allow police to have more power then that’s up to you.
I can see you’re itching for an argument about racism.
Don't for one second think that crown is seriously pursuing a murder charge.
The irony
I can see you're itching for our severely underfunded, overworked and understaffed police force to go around cracking heads like some 1970's cop drama before rounding up a bunch of poor teenagers and stuffing them into our already overcrowded prison system because it feels like modern society has left you behind and it's scary. Let's ignore the fact that all evidence suggests this approach would simply exacerbate all our current problems and maybe take it a step further by reintroducing the death penalty. I bet you'd love that wouldn't you?
No I’m not because not every example of mine relates to racism. However the fact you seem to dismiss that as an argument is very telling.
