I feel like this is backwards. There's a big learning curve to switching positions and it's even harder at this level.? Since when is talking about an idea being backed into a corner. That’s what the forum is about isn’t it? Oh no wait I forgot this was the negative corner where only moaning is allowed
players get converted all the time. You can do that instantly where as buying isn’t so quick and easy.
Anyway, it probably won’t ever happen but I personally think it could work great. People are welcome to their opinions.
Should Luke Shaw be converted to a midfielder?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
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Sissoko has next to nothing in common witj Shaw. Moreover if you would take into account his Toulouse career, you would see why he can play as a CM
Jesus christ. Lindelof as DM would be the ultimate shitshow.
I've seen posters claiming Bailly could be one aswell.
Its funny, bizarre and shocking
He should be sold.
I´d rather convert Tuanzebe to a midfielder. I think he could become a terrific DM.
The op is clearly bored or drunk.
Probably both!
Probably both!
He should be converted into an Everton player.
I'd like to see him tried there, personally.
On the ball he has a great first touch, is good at passing between the lines, is very good at shielding the ball under pressure, is capable of carrying the ball forwards which is a nice asset to have in central areas (well, anywhere really). He has a nice scoop pass on him, too.
Defensively, he's good at pressing, dealing with 1v1s, positioning himself (though positioning himself as a LB is different to a CM obviously, so who knows if his sense of positioning would translate as well centrally).
With Williams looking good at LB, and us lacking a CM who's more adept as the deepest one, I'd definitely like to see him tried at the base of a 3 behind a McTominay/Fred and Pogba. If he can get fit that is.
On the ball he has a great first touch, is good at passing between the lines, is very good at shielding the ball under pressure, is capable of carrying the ball forwards which is a nice asset to have in central areas (well, anywhere really). He has a nice scoop pass on him, too.
Defensively, he's good at pressing, dealing with 1v1s, positioning himself (though positioning himself as a LB is different to a CM obviously, so who knows if his sense of positioning would translate as well centrally).
With Williams looking good at LB, and us lacking a CM who's more adept as the deepest one, I'd definitely like to see him tried at the base of a 3 behind a McTominay/Fred and Pogba. If he can get fit that is.
Thank you Yagami, glad I’m not the only one seeing it.
He’s definitely got all the attributes required, if just depends whether he can play it well. It might be a failure but no harm in trying it.
I think he’d be excellent in a 3 man midfield in the left side. Especially if rashford is going to be playing LW, we could allow him to be a big lazier and stay upfront more for counter attacking. Shaw could provide extra defensive cover alongside Williams.
anyway this is all hypothetical and I doubt it’ll ever get trailed, but it would be interesting to see.
Haha my thoughts exactly
Can't wait until I have 10 likes so that I can create a thread on why I think we should convert Matic into a right winger.
With that username you'll be waiting a long time
.Even though I agree with you in that I'd like to see it attempted, I can definitely see why the majority here don't agree. He's not exactly set the world alight in his favoured position here so expecting him to play well - and consistently - in a new position is a bit far fetched for most. Understandably.
You also make a good point about him providing cover down the left, too. On our right, we usually have that extra cover due to James, Pereira, Mata, Lingard all tracking back, but, like you say, Rashford is usually instructed to stay up so our LB is often outnumbered. Against Brighton the other day, Maguire had to step in and provide a lot of cover for Williams due to him being caught out of position/upfield a bit so Shaw could provide a nice balance in the defensive phase anyway.
I sound like I think it'd be a sure fire success the way I'm going on, but I don't. It'd definitely be a risk, and could easily fail/be a waste of time, but I'm with you in thinking it could be worth a shot. Especially as we're severely lacking in the CM department.
However, as you say, it's all hypothetical so there's not much point in thinking too much about it. I say this after thinking a bit about it of course
I'll do much better during my second spell in charge.With that username you'll be waiting a long time
He is as close to becoming a midfielder as he is at becoming a goalkeeper. Probably one of the most absurd threads I've seen on here. And I've been around for a while.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that he absolutely shuts down with any ask for urgency or good decision making. Look at the way he receives the ball in the final third and comes to an almost complete halt and passes the ball back to the opposition. The guy has no imagination, no ruthlessness, no IQ, no focus and very minimal desire at crafting any danger for opposition on a football pitch. He is harmless.
He is the type of player that you wouldn't bother marking in a Sunday league because you know he's just a fart in the wind
You seem to have overlooked the fact that he absolutely shuts down with any ask for urgency or good decision making. Look at the way he receives the ball in the final third and comes to an almost complete halt and passes the ball back to the opposition. The guy has no imagination, no ruthlessness, no IQ, no focus and very minimal desire at crafting any danger for opposition on a football pitch. He is harmless.
He is the type of player that you wouldn't bother marking in a Sunday league because you know he's just a fart in the wind
Matic would make a better fist of being a right-winger than Shaw would of being a midfielder that's for sure.
I can't see him doing well in midfield at all. For me he hasn't got the speed of thought needed to make a truly good midfielder. For me he is fine as a LB. His issue is that he spends far to much time out of the team, that we can't put our trust in him being there when needed. Sadly, for that reason I would like us to look for a replacement.
Sadly you can only count on him being fit for about 10 games a season.
Converting him to be a club physio might be more appropriate.
Converting him to be a club physio might be more appropriate.
Zaha is trying to get close to your daughter.
Harsh on Williams.
We bought Maguire to be creative on the ball, why would we play Luke Shaw even if fit as a CM? He is slow and predictable in his movement which will be further exposed in central position and he ponders on the ball. He has a few good qualities that doesn't necessarily fit his position, but even in his pocket he'll lacks the basics for a midfield role. If he went on loan to play midfield for Burnley or something and did well we might consider it, but it's a weird idea. Reminds me of not giving up on the idea that Rooney could playing deep in the midfield, sure some of the attributes is there but he lacks the basics.
That comparison makes no sense though, I highly rate Pogba too; that does not mean I want to see Luke Shaw play in central midfield
.Fosu Mensah is back soon isnt he?
He's a better candidate
He's a better candidate
Agreed. Can't have sicknote who is injured half of the season for almost every season. To progress we need some consistent selections in the team sheet. Look at at Fred and Mctom.. they getting it slowly as they play more and more together. With Shaw you know you can expect a great performance everytime he plays. "IF" he plays. Therein is the problem. Maybe get a solid LB and keep this dude as a sub. 70 league games since he joined us five years ago, this is ridiculous. How many good signings we must have passed on because all our managers thinking "Its ok, we already have shaw who can play there... he due to return, nov, march etc". But he is never there.
Exactly, he's proven time and again that he's not reliable. His injuries are only going to get worse with age. Time to cash in on him and buy a competent LB.
If I did want to change his position it would be to LCB in a back 3.
He just hates Pogba fans that's all. He'll be after you nextThat comparison makes no sense though, I highly rate Pogba too; that does not mean I want to see Luke Shaw play in central midfield
Haha probably.. I'm curious to know though; how would you currently line up Man United with everyone fit?He just hates Pogba fans that's all. He'll be after you next
The same as last game but with Pogba at the 10 instead of Pereira.
edit: Debatable between Shaw and Williams, but right now I really like Williams. Been a fan of his in the reserves for a while and knew he could make the step up.
I think his energy and passion is what the team really needs right now. Shaw needs to step it up a notch to compete with him in that regard, but he offers other things Williams isn't showing just yet.
Ha I completely agree with you, wasn't expecting that due to the thread
This thread has got me thinking about the worst 11 you could make from our squad by playing everyone in their wrong positions. Only 1 goalkeeper allowed outfield. Has to be a formation that we regularly use.
Gomes
DDG, Fred, Lingard, Mata, Young
James, Martial
Maguire, Wan-Bissaka, Jones
DDG, Fred, Lingard, Mata, Young
James, Martial
Maguire, Wan-Bissaka, Jones
I'm imaginative, not crazyHa I completely agree with you, wasn't expecting that due to the thread
He doesn't have the mental strength to be a Utd player.
He'll be back-up to Williams next season.
He'll be back-up to Williams next season.
Mourinho would cum in his pants seeing this lineup.
Yep, but earning 200k a week or whatever he's on. He definitely won't be first choice by August 2020. That much I'm extremely confident of.
Ahh, a fellow clairvoyant!
so what we need to do is grow his hair out?
all jokes aside I really don’t think it’s that unusual of an idea, but shaw is obviously in people’s bad books right now so they’re not interested. Oh well it was fun to see the reactions. Would love if it happens now! might suggest it to him on insta/Twitter
Underrated post, shame we can’t bring back Rom and have him in a midfield 2 with Tony.
No that’s Shaw himself.
Love how Young is actually in his usual position