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You would not take Mertens on a free transfer, a player who can play from the right or up front and consistently scores and assists, is that in case it ruffles Lingard and Mata, who as we know are tearing it up :lol:
He score goals and assists players ..which probably means, wouldn't be a good fit for us :wenger:
 

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Eriksen,Willian,Cavani,Fraser, Guerriero, Mertens,Modric,Matuidi

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Thauvin,Milik,Depay,Telles,Grimaldo,Tonali,Berge

Some very interesting options. Yet we are going behind unrealistic players like Sancho.

Hope someone is seriously looking into it.


Edit -Wrong forum. Mods- can you please help ?
Eriksen, Tonali, Mertens are some very good options.

Guerreiro from Borussia? Didn't he renew?
 

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How much could they get for him? Any club interested could just snap him up for free six months later.

I don't want him myself - obviously phenomenal the past five years, but looks to be declining and relies a lot on his physical engine too - could be another Matic/Mata/Sanchez/Rooney/Schweinsteiger (seriously, this fecking club :lol:) situation. Doubt he wants us either.
That sort of entirely depends on how many suitors there are, a bidding war will ramp up the price to x, hard to tell. I will be mindblown if he goes for over £20m, that'd be a wild overpayment for 6 months. I can see the club offering £10m if we see a need.

On the topic of Eriksen declining. He's had a poor season compared to his past, so far, but I think it's a little early to call it a day on his career. Christian Eriksen is only 27, not 34.
 

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That sort of entirely depends on how many suitors there are, a bidding war will ramp up the price to x, hard to tell. I will be mindblown if he goes for over £20m, that'd be a wild overpayment for 6 months. I can see the club offering £10m if we see a need.

On the topic of Eriksen declining. He's had a poor season compared to his past, so far, but I think it's a little early to call it a day on his career. Christian Eriksen is only 27, not 34.
I think the main issue with Eriksen is he's lost interest in a struggling team that are clearly not competing for honours this season. CL seems to lift him and a few of the others, but not surprising given it's a massive shop window. If we somehow signed him with our struggles, I'd worry we'd be getting an unmotivated Sanchez II on another expensive contract.
 

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You would not take Mertens on a free transfer, a player who can play from the right or up front and consistently scores and assists, is that in case it ruffles Lingard and Mata, who as we know are tearing it up :lol:
Definitely not. The key to rebuilding our squad is not replacing the deadwood with 7/10 players...I want the best young players from the PL to give us a squad capable of cementing a top four finish. Then we look at adding the real superstar quality to take us from 4th/3rd to 2nd/1st

If our only criteria is “better than Mata and Lingard” then half my Saturday morning side have a shout
 

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Definitely not. The key to rebuilding our squad is not replacing the deadwood with 7/10 players...I want the best young players from the PL to give us a squad capable of cementing a top four finish. Then we look at adding the real superstar quality to take us from 4th/3rd to 2nd/1st

If our only criteria is “better than Mata and Lingard” then half my Saturday morning side have a shout
Well for the right hand side, we are not getting Sancho as were just not good enough he will end up at Madrid or Liverpool (if Salah goes to Madrid), Ziyech would be my first realistic choice but a proven top quality right winger, who can play up front as well and has consistently scored goals and got assists and is available for a free, wouldn't take him? ha wow.

Being better than Lingard and Mata is not the criteria but feck me it would be nice to have a right wing that does not consistent of them pair of helmets. Mertens will end up at Juve or somewhere, typical Juve signing, top quality on a free, makes far to much sense for us, we will go back buy Zaha back for 70m, ace!
 

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I am sorry but it doesn’t. At all. Free agents usually get a massive signing on fee, and then clubs keep their wages within budgetary limits. Juve have been doing it for years. It’s not complicated. Obviously they can negotiate a better wage, but structuring it thusly, requires no knock on effect on the wage structure.
Do you think that is going to deter an agent? They'll go looking for a huge fee for their client signing a new contract, its a recipe for a disaster unless the club are signing one of the worlds best players but in Juve's case Can & Ramsey are clearly not and neither is Eriksen.
 

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We can let Chong go, he doesn't fit.
 
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I can see Juventus signing some free players. I wouldn't be surprised if they sign quality players like De Gea, Alderweireld, Modric, Eriksen, Cavani... At the end, the would have money to spend on someone like Chiesa.
I’ve good news for you DDG recently signed a new long term contract.
 

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Definitely not. The key to rebuilding our squad is not replacing the deadwood with 7/10 players...I want the best young players from the PL to give us a squad capable of cementing a top four finish. Then we look at adding the real superstar quality to take us from 4th/3rd to 2nd/1st

If our only criteria is “better than Mata and Lingard” then half my Saturday morning side have a shout
And who exactly is this young option who would be happy to be back up to Martial and can play any of the front 3 roles and could come up with more than 10 goals and 10 assists ?
 

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Bar Eriksen (who will likely be sold rather than go on a free) I don't think any of the expiring this summer are worthwhile for us.

2021 has some good players
Thauvin,Milik,Depay,Telles,Grimaldo,Tonali,Berge

You could whittle that down to realistic options for us too:
Telles,Grimaldo,Tonali

We would get Telles & Grimaldo and may look at better options than Tonali for midfield.

Likely come 2021 these wont all be available on a free anyway
 

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Do you think that is going to deter an agent? They'll go looking for a huge fee for their client signing a new contract, its a recipe for a disaster unless the club are signing one of the worlds best players but in Juve's case Can & Ramsey are clearly not and neither is Eriksen.
I already answered that in the first post. You’re just doubling down on an already poor assumption.
 

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I already answered that in the first post. You’re just doubling down on an already poor assumption.
All reports have suggested Ramsey is paid a huge weekly salary. Juve confirmed costs of £3.2m so clearly no huge signing on fee.
 

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All reports have suggested Ramsey is paid a huge weekly salary. Juve confirmed costs of £3.2m so clearly no huge signing on fee.
because player expenses are amortised over the duration of the contract.
 

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because player expenses are amortised over the duration of the contract.
I'm fully aware how a transfer fee is accounted for in the accounts. I suspect this is not the case and the £3.2m was a fee to the agent.
 

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And who exactly is this young option who would be happy to be back up to Martial and can play any of the front 3 roles and could come up with more than 10 goals and 10 assists ?
You think Mertens would come on a free to sit on the bench behind Dan James?

In answer to your question, I would like us to focus our efforts on signing Haaland. I would then play Haaland as a #9 with Martial, James and Rashford playing off him - they don't have to stick rigidly to position but I'd expect Martial to be the most central of the three most of the time
 

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Or sign players on the up using a good scouting system, players who are hungry for trophies and have scope for improvement rather than satisfied players winding down after so many years of miles on the clock.

I know which I’d prefer. I honestly think some forumites would suggest going after Ronaldo next summer.
 

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You think Mertens would come on a free to sit on the bench behind Dan James?

In answer to your question, I would like us to focus our efforts on signing Haaland. I would then play Haaland as a #9 with Martial, James and Rashford playing off him - they don't have to stick rigidly to position but I'd expect Martial to be the most central of the three most of the time
A 4231 with Martial, Rashford,Haland,James? I rest my case.
And yes Mertens will come as a backup. He is 33 and it's the last chance to play for a big club. Also, I wasn't proposing him in right or left though he can play there. He will be a good backup to Martial.
 

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Wouldn't be against signing Erriksen & Ryan Fraser on free's in January. Same with Tonali the year after.

Yet we are going behind unrealistic players like Sancho.
How is Sancho unrealistic when we need players like him help United get back where they should be as a club? The only problem is if the Glazers are willing to make the move happen...

MUFC targeted Eriksen in the 2019 summer window. They might be willing to do so again. Will he want to come here though? Eriksen has stated that he wants a new challenge in a different environment. Continuing in the EPL might not be high on his list. The player has expressed that he wants to play in Spain for RM. Pogba remains Zidanes main target, and Ødegaard will likely join Real Madrid in the 20/21 season. Eriksens Reall Madrid ship have likely sailed
If Pogba wants to leave United to be in a better postion to win trophies, then joining Real Madrid is not really the best place for him to do that, not when they would be spending his peak years continuing to rebuild the side over the coming years.

Depay will 100% never be offered a way back to MUFC, we don't re-buy players.
We did buy back Pogba to be fair, and almost did the same with Michael Keane as well.[/QUOTE]

When is Pogba's contract expiring? Sell him and replace him with Maddison / Grealish and Ødegaard / Havertz .
Considering the state of our Midfield, we need to keep Pogba AND sign players like Maddison, B.Fernandes & Havertz (I don't see Grealish ever leaving Villa anytime soon though).

I think the main issue with Eriksen is he's lost interest in a struggling team that are clearly not competing for honours this season. CL seems to lift him and a few of the others, but not surprising given it's a massive shop window.
And yet he wants to join a club that has spent last 2 seasons finishing behind even Atlético Madrid, and might well do the same this season as well.

And yes Mertens will come as a backup. He is 33 and it's the last chance to play for a big club. Also, I wasn't proposing him in right or left though he can play there. He will be a good backup to Martial.
We should not be looking for players that are willing to be backups for Martial, we should be looking for players that are able to compete with Martial for his place in the team.
 

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And yet he wants to join a club that has spent last 2 seasons finishing behind even Atlético Madrid, and might well do the same this season as well.
Yes but they have been winning major trophies in the last few years, and they have a history of consistently enjoying huge success. Spurs have been a nothing club for decades. There is nothing unambitious about him wanting to join them.
 

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We should learn from Juve. They are masters in signing free agents. That is why they always have best squad depth in the world. We are obsessed with playing/buying youth and by that we always look to have one good option because our thinking is; " If we buy another mc or striker, he will steal minutes from Rashford, McT, Shaw.....etc.."

I would sign Modric for free and we have playmaker for next 2 years or go all in for Eriksen. Signing for free world class and long term option for midfield would be amazing job. On that way we have more money to spend on other positions.
I would also go for Guerriero so we can delay decision about replacing Shaw.
 

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We should learn from Juve. They are masters in signing free agents. That is why they always have best squad depth in the world. We are obsessed with playing/buying youth and by that we always look to have one good option because our thinking is; " If we buy another mc or striker, he will steal minutes from Rashford, McT, Shaw.....etc.."

I would sign Modric for free and we have playmaker for next 2 years or go all in for Eriksen. Signing for free world class and long term option for midfield would be amazing job. On that way we have more money to spend on other positions.
I would also go for Guerriero so we can delay decision about replacing Shaw.
There is a lot of merit in it I agree, but the downside is the astronomical wages you end up paying. Ramsey is £400k I think? It’s not just that in isolation, but also the impact on the other players of paying that sort of money to a Ramsay or equivalent.
 

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Yes but they have been winning major trophies in the last few years, and they have a history of consistently enjoying huge success.
That is very true (although their domestic record is far from impressive)*, however they are not currently in a good position to win trophies at the moment and are not likely move away from that position for at least a few seasons. Thus, it would not make sense for Erriksen to spend his remaining peak years at a club that is in the middle of a rebuilding process of its own, not when there are better alternatives where he can win trophies.

*In fact over the last 10 years, United has won as many domestic leagues/cups as they have despite being the far worse team on paper and competing in a more competitive domestic football enviroment than themselves.

Spurs have been a nothing club for decades. There is nothing unambitious about him wanting to join them.
The issue I have is not him leaving Spurs, its him leaving Spurs for a club who are hardly in that much of a better position than themselves.
 

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We should learn from Juve. They are masters in signing free agents. That is why they always have best squad depth in the world. We are obsessed with playing/buying youth and by that we always look to have one good option because our thinking is; " If we buy another mc or striker, he will steal minutes from Rashford, McT, Shaw.....etc.."

I would sign Modric for free and we have playmaker for next 2 years or go all in for Eriksen. Signing for free world class and long term option for midfield would be amazing job. On that way we have more money to spend on other positions.
I would also go for Guerriero so we can delay decision about replacing Shaw.
Just because it works for one club doesn't mean it will work for the other club. The two clubs are currently in different situation & playing in different league.

Did it work when we got Alexis Sanchez & Bastian Schweinsteiger? Modric is an example of a bad signing for a team like us but might work out well for club like Bayern or PSG or Juve.

Modric basically has achieved everything at Real Madrid. Our aim right now is not winning trophy but rebuilding the team to get back into the path of the winning trophy. Joining us means he has no business or aim to achieve but only for money. At his age, he will be asking tons of money but physically he won't be able to play week in week out to match the wages he will ask for.

It's nice to have a world class players but we also need to look at whether the world class players will show hunger to help us. Our situation is different to Juventus, we are still not in the stage of to challenging trophy. Players like Rashford, Martial, James and etc might not be a world class but they are young, have hunger & willing to do a lot of things to achieve their long ambition.

It always nice to sign players for free but we also need to consider the profile of the player whether he will suit our condition or no.
 

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Just because it works for one club doesn't mean it will work for the other club. The two clubs are currently in different situation & playing in different league.

Did it work when we got Alexis Sanchez & Bastian Schweinsteiger? Modric is an example of a bad signing for a team like us but might work out well for club like Bayern or PSG or Juve.

Modric basically has achieved everything at Real Madrid. Our aim right now is not winning trophy but rebuilding the team to get back into the path of the winning trophy. Joining us means he has no business or aim to achieve but only for money. At his age, he will be asking tons of money but physically he won't be able to play week in week out to match the wages he will ask for.

It's nice to have a world class players but we also need to look at whether the world class players will show hunger to help us. Our situation is different to Juventus, we are still not in the stage of to challenging trophy. Players like Rashford, Martial, James and etc might not be a world class but they are young, have hunger & willing to do a lot of things to achieve their long ambition.

It always nice to sign players for free but we also need to consider the profile of the player whether he will suit our condition or no.
Similarly, just because Sanchez and Bastian didn't work doesn't mean, nothing else will work.

And we are rebuilding. We may not get the right players in one window. It takes couple of windows and so these are good options for couple of years.

Imagine if we had a Mertens to play when Martial was injured ?
 

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Similarly, just because Sanchez and Bastian didn't work doesn't mean, nothing else will work.

And we are rebuilding. We may not get the right players in one window. It takes couple of windows and so these are good options for couple of years.

Imagine if we had a Mertens to play when Martial was injured ?
I think what you don't get the point from the example that I posted is that we have tried it and it didn't work. If something that we did doesn't work, what do you do? Keep doing the same thing until it works?

Modric at 35 years old is not a good options for couple years. In the rebuilding process of course we have to aware that it will take more than just one window, thus why we should lower the expectation during the transition point. Developing players, improving the current squad, build chemistry & strong mentality should be the priority of the club. There is no need to rush thing by signings some ageing players with profile of no interest with the club's project and pay them tons of money in their salary. Signing this type of player need to be the right one such as if they are interested with what the club's aim is. And our aim at this point is not winning trophies.
 

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I am sorry but it doesn’t. At all. Free agents usually get a massive signing on fee, and then clubs keep their wages within budgetary limits. Juve have been doing it for years. It’s not complicated. Obviously they can negotiate a better wage, but structuring it thusly, requires no knock on effect on the wage structure.

Seems like Eriksen has signed a deal worth circa £340,000 a week, thats about £100,000 a week more than their highest earner.