Film Doctor Sleep (2019) | The Shining sequel

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How can he have invented the ghosts if Wendy saw them too at the end?
Did she? I didn't remember that until.you nentioned it but then again I have only tried to watch it once again since it first came out and couldn't get through it.

That article someone posted earlier made the same point. Even if it is ghosts at the end it is all about Nicholson until then.

In the movie, the nature of the Jack’s decent into madness is much more ambiguous and seems to take place all in his mind. Rather than supernatural forces making him nuts, it’s his own mental health that falls apart without the influence of ghosts or spirits. Rather than actual ghosts, the movie presents the supernatural as all in the character’s head, due to the isolation and writers block he experiences.
 
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Let's not forget that King himself made his own version of The Shining for TV and it was utterly shit.
 

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Did she? I didn't remember that until.you nentioned it but then again I have only tried to watch it once again since it first came out and couldn't get through it.

That article someone posted earlier made the same point. Even if it is ghosts at the end it is all about Nicholson until then.
I thought the film was more about Danny than Jack. Jack was brilliant for me. The way the ghost story was intertwined with a isolation/writers block story left the viewer trying to figure out if it was in Jack's head or if there was something else happening. I think it was a bit of both because he did previously hurt his son and drank to deal with his lack of success. I'll read the book again and check.

On Dr. Sleep I really enjoyed this film. Some nice hat tilts to the original film. The score stayed the same and I liked McGregor and Ferguson and all the characters. Except for that weird looking grandpa guy. Creeped me out!
 

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I read the book when it was first released years ago, and went to see the movie last week. It was everything I expected it to be (not a horror movie), and whilst I'm not running around raving about it to all my friends and family, I did enjoy it. My wife, who hasn't read the book but has seen the original shining movie also had a good time.

My only problems with it really are
that I never felt the young girl was in danger as she is so overpowered, and also that the rest of the true knot don't get fleshed out, but I guess run time required these changes. Didn't see why they had to change who lived and died at the end either, but I don't particularly think this spoiled it.

Overall, a good mesh of Kubricks film/Kings books. McGregor is great Danny, and Ferguson as Rose the Hat:drool:
 

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I'm surprised & pleased that people have enjoyed the movie, as the premise sounded a bit comic to me.
 

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Saw it a while back and thought it wasn't great. Thoughts in spoilers in case people haven't seen it.

Didn't like the villains at all and the film spent a good chunk with them.
The main girl was too overpowered. She slapped up the antagonist TWICE then teamed up with Danny so wasn't gonna lose in the end. The threat is meant to come from the antagonist, not the other way around.
Didn't like that the 'shine' was used as a superpower as opposed to Kubrick's film, where it was something haunting Danny.
The movie felt like Logan. It was more a superhero movie and less a horror film.
When they eventually went back to the Overlook, it just felt like they were at the Stanley Kubrick exhibition in London. Did nothing with it.
The worst sin for me was the re-enactments. They were so distracting... especially the dude playing Jack Nicholson.

It felt like a mishmash of Stephen King's/Stanley Kubrick/Studio wants. It should have picked one route and gone with that.
 

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Well i really loved this but can see it having a hard time. It's not a straight horror, it's not just a rehash of the original film.

I liked how it drew on the threads of the book and the film and tried to come to a resolution on the differing theories of demonic possession of a hotel versus a bad man bringing his issues to the hotel.

Ferguson is an amazing villain and a worthy successor to Jack Torrance. I think it will be a bit of a slow builder as it won't draw in the big crowds of horror fans but would recommend it to anyone with the proviso that it has a couple of scenes that are very uncomfortable viewing.
 

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Saw it last night and really enjoyed it despite expectations. A really decent horror film that didn't rely on jump scares. I assume the book ended differently as the hotel already blew up due to the boiler in the original book.
 
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Watched this last night and I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. The fact it was a drama with elements of horror was great. The murder scene was one of the most disturbing I've seen in a long time. It had some flaws, cinematography (why didn't they use wider lenses and the lighting was a bit tv movie), to much replicating shots from the Kubrick film, the fact it was basically an xmen film, the over use of ghosts from the original (especially Bath tub lady ), but I thoroughly enjoyed it, Ewan was great, Rose the hat was fantastic, the fact they used actors to replicate characters of the past instead of cgi was a godsend. Also great to see the original Danny and Elliot from ET all grown up. A good slow burner.