No there is no contest as we already have a manager.
Pochettino sacked by Spurs
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@SquishyMcSquish @GlastonSpur and other spurs fans - Putting aside whether you want him gone or not, do you think Levy will actually push the button on Poch? What do you reckon it takes from here?
I can't see it happening personally. Levy knows he never backed Poch, and it's presumptious to think a new manager can walk in and take Spurs to the next level without some element of pain and having scraps in the transfer market. Maybe Allegri? But is he worth £30m of sacking Poch at this stage of the season?
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No chance. I put the odds at 1000 to one against.
Nor is it true that Levy hasn't backed Pochettino. In the summer we spent a lot more than previously in net terms … and previously the huge cost of our new stadium and training ground didn't allow much leeway for spending.
Seems Glaston got that wrong then. 1000 to 1. I wish I'd had some of that.
@SquishyMcSquish @GlastonSpur and other spurs fans - Putting aside whether you want him gone or not, do you think Levy will actually push the button on Poch? What do you reckon it takes from here?
I can't see it happening personally. Levy knows he never backed Poch, and it's presumptious to think a new manager can walk in and take Spurs to the next level without some element of pain and having scraps in the transfer market. Maybe Allegri? But is he worth £30m of sacking Poch at this stage of the season?
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And Glaston said;
No chance. I put the odds at 1000 to one against.
Nor is it true that Levy hasn't backed Pochettino. In the summer we spent a lot more than previously in net terms … and previously the huge cost of our new stadium and training ground didn't allow much leeway for spending.
Seems Glaston got that wrong then. 1000 to 1. I wish I'd had some of that.
I meant in my lifetime, last 30 years or so, I should have qualified it!
Back then only the winners of the leagues made the equivalent of the CL, so the UEFA Cup was pretty prestigious, is that it?
Yes, and when I become supreme dictator that will be my first edict
Hmm weird. Never knew managers couldn't be sacked.
Glad to have enlightened you. Maybe we should sack the current manager everytime another a manager who is wanted by other big clubs becomes available?
"When"?
He'll be fine. He'll recharge, and come the summer he'll be managing a CL team elsewhere in Europe. This had simply run its course, this shite happens in football.
Not exactly far to go to to overcome Poch has he? Give the man a chance ffs.
Not been in the job a year and dicks like this wanting him out and would’ve ousted Fergie for not winning the title by His first Christmas in the job.
Jeez.
Or we should do it when the current manager is under performing with no track record to support him.
Anyway as I said in other said yeah I expect the board to think the same and him to not get sacked but this will all end in tears next season wirhth Poch going to Madrid or Bayern while we keep being a mid-table club under Ole a d trying to excuse it.
You’d think Jose would know better.
On the other hand, probably pissing himself at the prospect of serving 2 of a 3 year contract and getting another payoff.
Worked for Moyes.
I agree. I would go as far as saying that big ron given a year more would have done same as Fergie.
Always going to be the way when your last year has been your worst. The run to the European final was a great achievement but swaddled in outrageous fortunate along the way, unlike Liverpool who noone could deny were one of Europes best 2-3 teams last season.
Jose has been written off, despite winning more in his "bad" run with us, than Poch has ever won. Let alone his utterly crammed trophy cabinet beforehand.
He should take a year off to recharge his batteries and regain his passion for football. That would also allow sufficient time to evaluate Solskjær, who probably deserves another summer transfer window.
I've said too much
Funny, 3 points behind top 5 and get sacked. How come?
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Nor did Pouch win any cups. Or maybe he did? Tell us all - which cups did he win with Spurs?
I, for one, welcome our new, CL-hating overlords.
Get him now
He didn't. I was just pointing out that other Spurs managers haven't either. We got rid of two managers who actually won us something due to other issues. If Ole doesn't win something eventually he will probably go the same way.
Could very well happen if we hit bad form again. I'm all for giving Ole time but Poch is the superior manager, no sane person can argue that.
I don't think this sacking is in any way controversial. How much more time was the club supposed to give him? Spurs' performances have dropped dramatically since the start of last season. I can't think of a similar decline with unchanged personell.
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Lovely guy, loved his time with us, but sadly had lost the dressing room. Wish him will in the future, thanks POCH.
Ummmmm do you follow football?
Us last season.
This is sensible
Small club mentality.
Probably the biggest mistake Levy has made in the past 5 years. Unconceivable!
There's no reason to evaluate Solskjær for another half a year. We've been mediocre under his tenure here - He's already had about a year, and we haven't seen anything groundbreaking. Have we even evolved? Our position suggests no.
Poch on the other hand has a lot more dirt under his nails, proven to work good with youngsters. No trophies, but neither does Ole. Poch's system is meant to be for us, and it's about developing youngsters and playing attacking football which has always been the brand of football for United. Let's be honest, there's no clear direction or attacking patterns under Ole. We've looked crap for all games unless it was against the like of Norwich. Even Bournemouth has shitted on us, and we finished horrible last season.
A good manager is available. Get him. No brainer really.
Poch on the other hand has a lot more dirt under his nails, proven to work good with youngsters. No trophies, but neither does Ole. Poch's system is meant to be for us, and it's about developing youngsters and playing attacking football which has always been the brand of football for United. Let's be honest, there's no clear direction or attacking patterns under Ole. We've looked crap for all games unless it was against the like of Norwich. Even Bournemouth has shitted on us, and we finished horrible last season.
A good manager is available. Get him. No brainer really.
So just to make sure I'm clear in what you're saying, you think that because we beat Brighton comfortably and Spurs lost to them badly, Ole is a better manager than Pochettino?
We can still hire him if we want. Nothing unlucky if we don't hire him and he's the man we want.
That is an interesting take on it. Another way to look at it is that we moved swiftly to replace a manager that has clearly come to the end of the line and has replaced him within a few hours with one of the most highly decorated managers in the world. Small club mentality? Not sure why you think that. Small club mentality would be to be happy with mediocrity this season, or perhaps to replace Poch with a very inexperienced manager just because of their links to the club?
Really you can't? How long have you been watching Football?
Chelsea under Jose (went from title winners to relegation zone...much, much worse) and that was only three seasons ago
Us last season.
Is there a similar graphic for OgS’s time with us?!
My trajectory is none of this was said until he got sacked.
That would be it, yes.
The old UEFA Cup normally featured a number of very good teams. The fact that it was two-legged (including the final) made it even more difficult to win. A relevant example: Spurs won it in '72, having overcome Milan (featuring Rivera, yet to hit 30 at that point) in the semi. But the following season is the telling one, you could say: Spurs made it to the semi but lost to a very strong Liverpool team that won the league the same season. Liverpool went on to win the tournament, beating another very good side, viz. Borussia M'gladbach in the final - a side that would've won far more if they hadn't had the misfortune of competing against a historically great Bayern Munich.
If the format had remained the same, Ronaldo would have been a regular UEFA Cup performer in recent years. The likes of Klopp's Dortmund and Simeone's A. Madrid would've been regular features too. As it stands, the quality of the Europa League isn't comparable at all - it's decidedly second rate due to the format change.
If Ole wins a trophy this season does that then make him better than Poch?
The fact that Ole took over when we were at a low point, with a fractured squad and hasn't really had an opportunity yet to actually win a trophy, yet Poch has had 5 years at Spurs and 5 years before that at two other clubs. Ole on the other hand has won trophies with an unfancied Molde side, yet Poch is the better manager?
Your reasoning is awful, Spurs peaked in the league 2/3 seasons ago and have never really matched that or progressed on. They haven't won anything under Poch, even united have won more since Fergie left.
Poch has no clear direction with regards of tactics, he cannot change games if they are slipping away, he doesn't often have a plan B, his record against the top six is quite simply embarrassing!
But of course, Ole is poor and Poch is king as he left his club in 14th position!
I just put this together in Excel in five minutes so excuse the rather simple visuals.
I used rolling averages of the last 10 matches as they did in the Spurs graph.
Simply yes. Winning the Norwegian league is nothing like competing in the premier league against the best teams in the World. The norwegian league is terrible.
Very simplistic to say he left in 14th position. 2 points off us, and I guess Poch has left at his low right now, where Ole's just at his mediocre level. Will Ole ever get us to 2nd place or win us trophies? I highly doubt it.
Cheers. I'd be interested to see the first part of Poch's tenure. From 14 to 17' where the one above stops. To see what effect he had at Spurs and might have on United.I just put this together in Excel in five minutes so excuse the rather simple visuals.
I used rolling averages of the last 10 matches as they did in the Spurs graph.
If this is indeed factual, then credit to Ole that our defence is vastly improved and the chances section seems to be on a steady incline, could actually be on the path up here lads.I just put this together in Excel in five minutes so excuse the rather simple visuals.
I used rolling averages of the last 10 matches as they did in the Spurs graph.