Roy Keane's visit to Carrington

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It's clear, that alongside some of our players, a lot of people in this thread have no real connection to the club. The audacity to downplay the importance of a club legend, like Roy Keane and try to reduce his time at the club to a few unsavoury incidents, is bizarrely disrespectful. If you watched Keano play, regularly and you think back of his time at the club and don't come away thinking, "that's one of the best midfielders I've ever seen and one of the best captains Manchester united has ever had", then you have no business discussing football. So do one.

You think differently? You're wrong. It's not an opinion. It's an absolute. It's a demonstrably obvious, 100% fact.
I’d like this post if I could.
 

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How anyone can complain that United's most driven player, one who bled for the badge and one of the most influential captains to ever play football giving advice to a young United squad is a negative should just delete their account. Do yourself a favour and go and watch that Juventus match. If you don't know which one then that alone speaks volumes.
 

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This very thread shows a complete divide in the quality of Red Cafe posters.

Roy Keane was probably the 3rd most important Manchester United person after Ferguson and Cantona In the last 30 years. Let that sink in.

Incredible how some “fans” dismiss him like they have done on this thread. Hats off to those of you who have taken the time and effort to reply and educate these posters.
 

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I've seen this dismissive attitude by posters on Keane for quite some time now on the Caf. It's certainly half-brained. Naive to think of it in terms of some moronic generational divide, but rather those who appreciate what sort of mentality is required to achieve and those seduced by talent alone and celebrity.
 

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I don't even disagree with that, I take issue with people acting like superior supporters over a difference of opinion. It makes me cringe.
It's not even nearly as cringeworthy as having to explain Roy fecking Keane's status to a bunch of United fans.
 

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This very thread shows a complete divide in the quality of Red Cafe posters.

Roy Keane was probably the 3rd most important Manchester United person after Ferguson and Cantona In the last 30 years. Let that sink in.

Incredible how some “fans” dismiss him like they have done on this thread. Hats off to those of you who have taken the time and effort to reply and educate these posters.
Just pay no attention to them. Some just love to hate or stir the pot. By getting a reaction they feel like they've won some kind of battle. You know what Roy Keane did for the club. That's the apex.

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The only reason you would have to cringe if you were being addressed by someone with lesser accomplishments than you.

However, to a lot of these players, and ESPECIALLY the men who came through the academy, Roy Keane is essentially a deity. He's also one of the most famous and accomplished captains in club history who was there for the most accomplished period under the best club manager in the world. The only person in Manchester United that was there in the 90s and 00s and that carries a remotely similar gravitas than Roy Keane, is Sir Alex himself and Eric Cantona.

And you assume that the kids are cringing to be given a speech from that man?

You're missing the point about playing on the Theater of Dreams. You need something to motivate you, and what is better than a history lesson from someone who was there for the same period they are trying to achieve as a group?

If I'm being given a chance to listen to someone in my profession who has achieved more than me, I sit down and listen.
Exactly, they should feel privileged not be cringing.
 

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It's clear, that alongside some of our players, a lot of people in this thread have no real connection to the club. The audacity to downplay the importance of a club legend, like Roy Keane and try to reduce his time at the club to a few unsavoury incidents, is bizarrely disrespectful. If you watched Keano play, regularly and you think back of his time at the club and don't come away thinking, "that's one of the best midfielders I've ever seen and one of the best captains Manchester united has ever had", then you have no business discussing football. So do one.

You think differently? You're wrong. It's not an opinion. It's an absolute. It's a demonstrably obvious, 100% fact.
Great post. I agree 100%.
 

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I Wouldnt want to listen to him either. Especially if I was one of the players he has been criticising in public for years
This is why some people can excel and why some languish in mediocrity. Ooh... I can’t take criticism so let’s throw out the good advice as well.
 

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It's clear, that alongside some of our players, a lot of people in this thread have no real connection to the club. The audacity to downplay the importance of a club legend, like Roy Keane and try to reduce his time at the club to a few unsavoury incidents, is bizarrely disrespectful. If you watched Keano play, regularly and you think back of his time at the club and don't come away thinking, "that's one of the best midfielders I've ever seen and one of the best captains Manchester united has ever had", then you have no business discussing football. So do one.

You think differently? You're wrong. It's not an opinion. It's an absolute. It's a demonstrably obvious, 100% fact.
Reading this thread irritated me. Your post (and a few others like it) restore my faith that there are some posters on here that actually get the club they "supposedly" support.
 

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Whole thread is pointless as Keane wasn't at Carrington.

Source: Ole's PC
 

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Whole thread is pointless as Keane wasn't at Carrington.

Source: Ole's PC
Our greatest captain, and yet he couldn't be bothered to to go to Carrington even though he wasn't invited.

I dunno...world's gone to the dogs...etc.
 

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Our greatest captain, and yet he couldn't be bothered to to go to Carrington even though he wasn't invited.

I dunno...world's gone to the dogs...etc.
Typical Roy Keane, only thinking about himself. He should have been at Carrington but instead he was probably taking his dogs for a walk. Just shows you how little he cares about the club. Fancy not turning up to an event which didn't take place... He’s dead to me.*

*This is not true.
 
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Keane might not of been at Carrington, but I bet Martial was still slouched in his chair looking disinterested.

Doesn't change a thing. #Martialout
 

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pastyfool said:
Typical Roy Keane, only thinking about himself. He should have been at Carrington but instead he was probably taking his dogs for a walk. Just shows you how little he cares about the club. Fancy not turning up to an event which didn't take place... He’s dead to me.*
Keane might not of been at Carrington, but I bet Martial was still slouched in his chair looking disinterested.

Doesn't change a thing. #Martialout
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Does the Mirror not need to do anything about fake news? Or all news irregardless of authenticity is ok to be reported because media freedom?
 

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Does the Mirror not need to do anything about fake news? Or all news irregardless of authenticity is ok to be reported because media freedom?
They were the paper that printed a Dartboard with Becks at the center were they not? Something like "take your frustrations out at David beckham". Ridiculous how the media in england villify players.
Daily mail, mirror, sun, express - all trash.
 

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He may have been at Carrington or not but I feel most people have not actually seen Roy Keane play before his injury. Roy Keane at one time was the best midfield player in the world.
There was nothing he could not do. He was fairly quick, he can dribble, he can tackle very well, he can pass very well, he read the game very well, he can shoot, he can score goals, we can head the ball very well and he also can kick the hell out of the opposition as we all know. He led by example. I don't think we would have beaten Arsenal at Highbury if Roy had not taken on Viera before the match.

It's obvious he is bitter about how he was kicked out but he still loves United. It was brilliant to hear him say in his usual dry way that not many clubs have won the PL three times in a row, referring to city's struggles to do so.
 
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He may have been at Carrington or not but I feel most people have not actually seen Roy Keane play before his injury. Roy Keane at one time was the best midfield player in the world.
There was nothing he could not do.
He was fairly quick, he can dribble, he can tackle very well, he can pass very well, he read the game very well, she can shoot, he can score goals, we can head the ball very well and he also can kick the hell out of the opposition as we all know. He led by example. I don't think we would have beaten Arsenal at Highbury if Roy had not taken on Viera before the match.

It's obvious he is bitter about how he was kicked out but he still loves United. It was brilliant to hear him say in his usual dry way that not many clubs have won the PL three times in a row, referring to city's struggles to do so.
Behave, he wasn't fit to lace Bryan Robson's boots, and as much as I loved Robbo I would never have said he was the best midfielder in the world. He(Keane)was good, but not that good.
 

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Behave, he wasn't fit to lace Bryan Robson's boots, and as much as I loved Robbo I would never have said he was the best midfielder in the world. He(Keane)was good, but not that good.
Robbo at one stage was the best midfield player in the world. He would have got into any team. Keane at one stage was the best midfield player in the world in his position.
 

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Robbo at one stage was the best midfield player in the world. He would have got into any team. Keane at one stage was the best midfield player in the world in his position.
You may be right - but its not by clear margins as Davids, Seedorf, Desailly, Petit and Vieira were also great players in that period. And lets be honest - if your picking a world 11 form that decade, Seedorfs a dead cert.
 

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Roy Keane is a bitter old man and I wouldn't want him managing my team. But as someone that has been there and done that, that could speak to the players about grit and determination, he's second to none.

People forget Keane was really talented. He wasn't just a hard grafter. He was an exceptional midfield talent whose work ethic and will to succeed pushed him into the upper echelon.

Absolute legend. Can't believe how some united fans are talking about him on here. Madness.
 

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Behave, he wasn't fit to lace Bryan Robson's boots, and as much as I loved Robbo I would never have said he was the best midfielder in the world. He(Keane)was good, but not that good.
Well he was voted 6th in the Balon D'or in 1999 which, for a primarily defensive/box to box midfielder with only 5 goals that season, is pretty impressive. We had to break our wage structure to keep him the following season with Bayern and Juve wanting him.

I'd say between 98-2002 he and Vieria (and also maybe Petit) were on a completely different level to everyone else in the premier league and were at the least up there with the best in Europe.
 

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Typical Roy Keane, only thinking about himself. He should have been at Carrington but instead he was probably taking his dogs for a walk. Just shows you how little he cares about the club. Fancy not turning up to an event which didn't take place... He’s dead to me.*

*This is not true.
And if he were a better manager, he'd have been too busy managing his team to miss an event at Carrington that wasn't happening.
 

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Behave, he wasn't fit to lace Bryan Robson's boots, and as much as I loved Robbo I would never have said he was the best midfielder in the world. He(Keane)was good, but not that good.
Its a shame Robbo never matched the professional standards of Keane, Robbo was a bit of a joke of the pitch.
 

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I regard Keane as one of United's great midfielders but it is funny how certain fans are getting uppity when you dare question the guy.
 

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I have to laugh at the abuse Pogba gets. He seems to be quiet family man with a wife and children. He’s a Muslim so won’t go out drinking. The only thing he does is have a hair cut that isn’t the norm and likes dancing with his brothers on social media. He’s hardly doing a Schweinsteiger and buggering off half way round the world watching his girlfriend play tennis. Yet so many fans loved him.
There’s a term for it, subconscious racism
 

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Typical Roy Keane, only thinking about himself. He should have been at Carrington but instead he was probably taking his dogs for a walk. Just shows you how little he cares about the club. Fancy not turning up to an event which didn't take place... He’s dead to me.*

*This is not true.
He's a selfish cnut and all
 

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Say what you like but it's looking like it's had some effect. Just cannot understand how anyone can see anything negative in it.
Him not being there had a positive effect? Weird that the effect hadn't kicked in earlier, then.
 

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I don't think Desailly played at the same time as he is a few years older and played more as a defender than midfield player.
Yes Davids was very good and so was Veira but to me Keane at his peak was a better player than Viera. Technically Veira may have been better of course. Petit is not in the same class.