Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild


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Hugh Jass

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He deserves sacking for picking Lingard 27 times and no attacking contribution.

I don't even blame Lingard anymore. That's the manager to blame now. He needs to be taken out of the side and forever. He's not good enough. End of story.

Ole out now for me. We don't look like we have a clue. Just a decent counter attacking team. Not enough for a proper club with ambition.
I agree. Ferguson would never have tolerated Lingarrd.
 

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A bad result and the lynch mob creep back in.
How about a series of bad results against opposition beneath us? How about the other side of things? Two good results against top opposition and Ole apologists rearing their head?

Today was two uncharacteristic mistake from our two good players, but what was the manager doing to overturn it?

Passion, can't fault the players, work hard, etc.

He should just resign.
 

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Change of manager won't do much I think... We've been down that road with Moyes, LVG and Jose. There is something deeper that is wrong at Utd these days. Right from the top all the way down. A complete change of club structure is needed.

Recruitment, coaching, transfers, Director of Football, Woodward.. All those need changed ASAP.. Look how Pep and Klopp have changed City and Liverpool's structures, I hate to say it but they are years ahead of us right now. Utd is run as a business not as a football team.
Even with a DOF and football structure how does any of those influences effect Solskjaer's ability to successfully manage a team on the pitch ? If anyone thinks that a change of manager makes no difference simply look at Rodgers and Leicester this season. If losing their club owner to a fatal accident with his son sworn in likely without any notice hasn't faulted Rodgers from success, why is every excuse used under the sun to defend Ole.
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
I don't know why Glazers allow this. This is shambolic stuff. Losing against small teams week after week without having some good general play.

Sack him ffs
'Allow it'...? The Glazers have CAUSED THIS.

The Glazers have found their dream manager - a placid, inexperienced, popular fan choice who won't rock the boat or demand anything - or suggest to the media that Woodward is the utter fecking clown that he is.

If Ole can just scrape a Top 4 challenge (not even actually getting Top 4), the Glazers will stand behind him chuckling and creaming off Utd's profits until the fans actively demand change.
 

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Ole has no control. I bet the players are on the bus home now looking at this website and laughing about all the things we are saying about them. I bet you because they dont give a shit. All they want is there 80 grand a week after tax.

So ole better get control. Those players should be afraid of their lives when playing for united. I bet we will see Lingarrd post another video on facebook or instagram in the coming days. Just laughing in our faces. If you did that under Ferguson you were gone.
 

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I don't know why Glazers allow this. This is shambolic stuff. Losing against small teams week after week without having some good general play.

Sack him ffs
The Glazers don't care where we finish, as long as the money keeps rolling in, which amazingly it still is. Therefore Ole won't be sacked.
 

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What the hell are you even talking about:confused::lol:
How about you rain in your emotional state. Sorry I don't value your opinion, deal with it
That's a pity because I really value yours. I'd like you to teach me and enlighten me as to how I'm so misconceived with my opinions and how I can be more like you and stop "moaning". Please share your knowledge of football with me, oh wise one.
 

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Been a Ole supporter since Day 1 but converted today. Enough is enough. Sadly the board and Woodward should be on the same bus out as well. No way they should get off the hook...

I for one have no idea how this club is worth 3bn on the exchange now. Food for shorters IMO - brand value is rooted on a club being successful and entertaining. Classic example of how inadequate and wasteful management drives a highly successful company into the ground.
 

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The Glazers give no fecks, as long as we are making a profit, they don't care. They would rather win but the bottom line is PROFIT.
But they’re not stupid, they will realise that if we perform badly on the field, it will eventually reduce our income/profit.
 

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They do exactly the same each game, its dreadful to watch. Nomatter the quality of the players, its either the mentality or the tactics - and Ole is to blaim for both.

Pochettino is available.
 

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I don't want him in charge anymore for one simple reason, he's killing my love of football and my passion for watching United.Didn't even bother watching the game today, it was obvious what shite we were going to serve up.
 

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I don't want him in charge anymore for one simple reason, he's killing my love of football and my passion for watching United.Didn't even bother watching the game today, it was obvious what shite we were going to serve up.
I always find this view a bit odd, like those people who don’t vote in a general election and then moan about politics
 

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Keep. Stick that to your asses, glory hunters. We are going to CL this season be it EL or EPL qualification. We are still in top 4 race with half of the team injured throughout the season.
Yes, my shit is properly boiling after the game, the result and 75 mins of the game were frustrating. But if I had let emotions manage my life instead of managing them I’d become a miserable, depressive whiner watching free streams on a cracked display of a shitty phone.
Back in 2000s, I thought there was a difference between LFC and United fan base, but no: people are all the same. As I grow older, I have much more respect for the people supporting small clubs and fans who supported MU in 1970s and 80s, than fellow United fans who Start “a mid table club fan base mentality” bullshit. feck off you cnuts, who are first to express their fragile inner world when our young team loses but never show up in pre season, youth teams and tactical threads.

P.S. I’m not meaning to insult those fans who care about the club (not only results) but happen to have a “sack Ole” opinion based on their analysis and present their opinion with respect to other fans and the club.
So you want to keep an incompetent manager just to prove a point?
 

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Ole has a small club mentality. That is why he can’t break down teams that sits deep. He doesn’t have the managerial acumen of a top manager. As I stated before, Ole can fluke win the champions league like Di Mateo by luck and I still won’t believe that he is the right manager to take us to the next level. His philosophy is unattractive. I will be appalled if managers like Pochettino, nagelsmann, Tuchel and to a lesser extent Rose get ignored and we keep Ole for next season.
 

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I don't want him in charge anymore for one simple reason, he's killing my love of football and my passion for watching United.Didn't even bother watching the game today, it was obvious what shite we were going to serve up.
I was a bit surprised reading your post as our form prior to this match was pretty ok so no idea why you didn't even bother watching the game.

Then I looked at your name :lol:
 

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So 25pts of which 14 are from current top 4 + Gooner & Spurs. You do the 'math' on the rest. For those that say give Ollie a chance till Feb need to look at themselves. 11 of the 14 are from home games. If it was not for the those matches we would be staring down the gun of relegation, just like Cardiff - we would be better off with Neil Warnock who took over from Ole the leg-end.

There is a thread of what does Carrick do? Well from my perspective on match day nowt. Looks like he is on prescription med like diazapm to get through the horror performances.

The whole club is just a chuffin mess.
 

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I mean I know stats are insanely misleading and this is a prime example but holy feck :lol:
To be honest, we should have had a fair few more penalties this season but, i have to say, if defenders were more composed and didn't dive in when confronted with speed merchants then we might actually see that our attack isn't as deadly as we think. A prime example was Silva's challenge on Rashford and that Spurs player's challenge on Rashford. The player was going nowhere on both occasions. If they don't dive in that attack probably fizzles out into nothing. Not taking anything away from Rashford who has been excellent this season but it's not exactly like facing prime Ronaldo or Messi.
 

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That's a pity because I really value yours. I'd like you to teach me and enlighten me as to how I'm so misconceived with my opinions and how I can be more like you and stop "moaning". Please share your knowledge of football with me, oh wise one.
Lesson 101. Your opinions in general are trash
 

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Yes I would sack him. Today we have lost to the team firmly at the bottom of the table, we shouldn't be losing these games. Love the man he's a legend, but far this job goes tactically he's just not good enough. But that being said I think those of above him also need to lose jobs. The entire club needs a restructure starting with the Glaziers. I fear any new manager thats brought in will also suffer the same fate.
 

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'Allow it'...? The Glazers have CAUSED THIS.

The Glazers have found their dream manager - a placid, inexperienced, popular fan choice who won't rock the boat or demand anything - or suggest to the media that Woodward is the utter fecking clown that he is.

If Ole can just scrape a Top 4 challenge (not even actually getting Top 4), the Glazers will stand behind him chuckling and creaming off Utd's profits until the fans actively demand change.

I raised a point on another thread weeks ago.

Are the sane one's on here are actually not representative of the sheep who go to OT each week, then regime change will not occur. Its regime change required not just the manager and getting a CM & a forward who can score goals.
 
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Sack brigade have crawled back out under their rock.

Can't stand this these game by game fans
I don't think anyone is crawling out of anywhere in fairness @starman. Those who think Ole is doing a shit job (myself included) would've loved nothing more than to carry on from Spurs and City with a 100% December and excited about January and the future.

If we were in here after City and Spurs saying Sack sack sack you'd think we were a right bunch of orrible cnuts wouldn't you?
 

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I wanted to know. I wouldn’t have checked it because I don’t care enough, but penalties have been propping us up this season.
Funnily enough I've got a mate who supports Liverpool and he made this point only last week.

Didn't even listen but it's actually true.
 

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Sack brigade have crawled back out under their rock.

Can't stand this these game by game fans
Every time we lose I think about changing my vote but sacking him is not the answer. Time is the answer. After a long time terrible time, with much despair into the bargain, he’ll turn it around.

Defence has been shaky for a while but the whole team was a shambles today.

On the plus side, Pogba at “10” with McT and Fred behind looks like a decent prospect.
What on Earth makes you think he will turn it around?

Would you be saying the same if andy Hessenthaler was the manager? No of course you wouldn’t as despite being shit, Ole gets a free pass as he’s a club legend.
 

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Sack brigade have crawled back out under their rock.

Can't stand this these game by game fans
As opposed to heralding him as the best thing since sliced bread because he jammed two big game wins?

I’m Ole out and have been consistent all along with that

Anyone with a functioning brain can see he’s not good enough
 

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Who are the 49% , jesus what are you seeing that 51% of us aren't???
Theres a PROVEN manager available right now, sat at home or on holiday, he could be ours, but we could miss out to keep Ole !!
Cmon hes had a crack of the whip, there is 0 improvement, if anything things are getting worse, he has turned us into game raises, the worst of all teams. Please ol do the decent thing and move on. Please
 

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Ole has a small club mentality. That is why he can’t break down teams that sits deep. He doesn’t have the managerial acumen of a top manager. As I stated before, Ole can fluke win the champions league like Di Mateo by luck and I still won’t believe that he is the right manager to take us to the next level. His philosophy is unattractive. I will be appalled if managers like Pochettino, nagelsmann, Tuchel and to a lesser extent Rose get ignored and we keep Ole for next season.
Good Post. DI Mateo is a good example. Playing counter attacking against big team with luck to fluke CL.
 

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The penalty stat is useless and ridiculous. You get a penalty when you perform in the box. I don't even understand how someone can outline this stat.
However, Ole is not good enough to bring the club to a top level. United must turn the page and call Allegri or Pochetino. The problem is that they give him contract extension few months ago... terrible decision for the fans, not for the board, as he will never complain or ask for big expenses.
 
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